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MtotheIKEo 09-10-2017 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 665418)
Really? Have you ever added up just the PARTS to build a car? Then add paint? They're a relative BARGAIN. Even more so when you buy a used one.

A used one, sure, that may be a bargain. Also not $100k. It's a pretty basic car, just hard to imagine paying that much for what you get. (Looking at that Superformane link you posted)

Musclerodz 09-10-2017 06:14 PM

My neighbor had a Superformance that was 1 of 2 with a 588 rousch. He stole it from a guy that had to sell NOW. Took him forever to sell it, and he wasn't asking the moon for it either. While it was narly to look at, sounded awesome, blah , blah, blah, I would never buy one as the market for them if very limited and saturated. Personally, I hated how far offset the pedal box was, akward if your not used to it. It was a great drive it to the local car show and watch everyone oogle over it, but that was about it for it.

A clone of Danny Popp's C3 is on my near future radar. I love that car.

GregWeld 09-10-2017 06:25 PM

Funny ---- a quarter mile from the house is The Sun Valley Lodge.... a wonderful historic "place" --- it's on the only road I take to get to my house - and lo and behold as I cruised home from a little fly fishing -- bright colors catch my eye!!

A gaggle of COBRAS parked side by side! LOL --- what's the odds of that - that they'd be here this week.

Probably 40 of them. And lots of trailers in the gravel lot out back. I was going to take a picture of them to post up here - but most of them were parked behind a gate. Wasn't really worth the effort (I'd have had to park and walk over -- LOL).

Maybe I should get the drone out and go buzz 'em.

fleet 09-10-2017 08:55 PM

Who remembers the Cobra from the old 60's show 'Honey West'?
 
The current owner posted this vid of the car Anne Francis drove.

https://s20.postimg.org/e71gni3vh/IMG_9370.jpg

The 'show-touring' version of auto-crossing I guess.

:P


GregWeld 09-10-2017 09:19 PM

That's pretty embarrassing......


LOL

fleet 09-10-2017 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Musclerodz (Post 665444)
My neighbor had a Superformance that was 1 of 2 with a 588 rousch. He stole it from a guy that had to sell NOW. Took him forever to sell it, and he wasn't asking the moon for it either. While it was narly to look at, sounded awesome, blah , blah, blah, I would never buy one as the market for them if very limited and saturated. Personally, I hated how far offset the pedal box was, akward if your not used to it. It was a great drive it to the local car show and watch everyone oogle over it, but that was about it for it.

A clone of Danny Popp's C3 is on my near future radar. I love that car.

I searched on 'what is the best handling Cobra (replica)?'

Found several threads in which the majority of the responses said "JBL".

Below is from the former owner of the red JBL

"CHASSIS PARTICULARS

Distinctive to the JBL Roadster and designed by universally-respected Richard Hudgins, the chassis is a semi-monocoque structure fabricated from thin-wall (0.109" and 0.060") square steel (1018) tube and stress-bearing panels of mild-steel (#1018) 0.050" thickness. This delivers very high strength while maintaining a trim total vehicle mass/weight of only 2,400 lbs. [1,090 kg.].

The resulting chassis structure has an torsional stiffness of over 4,800 lbs./degree. Remember, the entire footwell area is made from steel, not fiberglass like almost all other replicas. This is the strongest, safest chassis and most torsionally rigid of any Cobra, either original or replica.

In its racing configuration (engine and gearbox stressed) the torsional stiffness will exceed 5,500 lbs./degree. This compares quite favorably to current Winston Cup and TransAm race vehicles. The installation of a full rollcage would further raise the rigidity to the region of 7,500 lbs./degree. The importance of chassis torsional rigidity is very simply the ability to maintain a stable platform for the suspension to operate from and relate to the road surface. Similarly, this über-rigid chassis also virtually eliminates wear & tear and potential stress-cracking on the fiberglass coachwork.

Front suspension: fully independent unequal-length A-arms with adjustable coils over QA1 shock absorbers.

Rear suspension: fully independent unequal-length A-arms, Ford Thunderbird hub carriers and adjustable coil-over QA1 shock absorbers."

The red one pictured was sold a few years ago. He goes into a lot more detail here for anyone interested...

http://www.cobracountry.com/cobra4sa...-JBL/home.html





Not sure if they are still in production or not, but instead of building a chassis to fit an anatomically correct body made from a mold off a Shelby, they built a body to fit their super strong chassis. One benefit is bigger foot-boxes. Much higher price at the time which also limited their appeal.

https://s20.postimg.org/lt0n75wkd/IMG_9326.jpg

https://s20.postimg.org/ot7ucuc65/IMG_9302.jpg

https://s20.postimg.org/d1p0z5nvh/IMG_9308.jpg

https://s20.postimg.org/cld047evx/IMG_9345.jpg

https://s20.postimg.org/h8j25z28t/IMG_9344.jpg

https://s20.postimg.org/hhgmvwf19/IMG_9338.jpg

https://s20.postimg.org/od0vf09i5/IMG_9343.jpg

https://s20.postimg.org/gt7scygbh/IMG_9342.jpg

https://s20.postimg.org/ux3nlcnj1/IMG_9341.jpg

https://s20.postimg.org/uvtprxlp9/IMG_9340.jpg

https://s20.postimg.org/9kw5no3kt/IMG_9339.jpg

https://s20.postimg.org/hhgmvwf19/IMG_9338.jpg

https://s20.postimg.org/xn8e4suu5/IMG_9336.jpg

https://s20.postimg.org/xlygbdt0d/IMG_9329.jpg

IIRC it was only designed for small blocks.

https://s20.postimg.org/hxsnquo0t/IMG_9303.jpg

fleet 09-10-2017 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 665445)
Funny ---- a quarter mile from the house is The Sun Valley Lodge.... a wonderful historic "place" --- it's on the only road I take to get to my house - and lo and behold as I cruised home from a little fly fishing -- bright colors catch my eye!!

A gaggle of COBRAS parked side by side! LOL --- what's the odds of that - that they'd be here this week.

Probably 40 of them. And lots of trailers in the gravel lot out back. I was going to take a picture of them to post up here - but most of them were parked behind a gate. Wasn't really worth the effort (I'd have had to park and walk over -- LOL).

Maybe I should get the drone out and go buzz 'em.

Greg,

Sometime back I came across a write-up of the Sun Valley Lodge. Historic for sure. :thumbsup:

Oh and btw... imho if you came across a bunch of C2's, we'd be lookin' at pics by now!

:D

fleet 09-11-2017 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Musclerodz (Post 665444)

A clone of Danny Popp's C3 is on my near future radar. I love that car.

Mike,

I didn't know the story behind the '72 coupe...that both his Dad and his Mom ran auto-x with it and his Dad purchased the car in 1973 for that very purpose.

All-iron SBC too...old skool cool for sure.

http://www.superchevy.com/features/1...ette-stingray/

fleet 09-11-2017 07:34 AM

Car selling 101 right here...aka 'how to sell a $100K C2'.

https://pennstate.craigslist.org/cto...275804248.html


:popcorn2:

GregWeld 09-11-2017 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cosmo mentis (Post 665461)
Greg,

Sometime back I came across a write-up of the Sun Valley Lodge. Historic for sure. :thumbsup:

Oh and btw... imho if you came across a bunch of C2's, we'd be lookin' at pics by now!

:D



No --- I would have done the same thing..... Only reason I'd have stopped to take the pic was just to tie the coincidence of them being here in town with the thread being fresh. I have 20,000 car photos on my computer.... don't really need any more. LOL

Sun Valley is "historic" for one reason -- it was the WORLDS very first ski lift (1936). Averell Harriman (owner of Union Pacific Railways) had it built and built the lodge for his rich and famous friends - and to pimp passengers to ride his railroad. A walk thru the hallways is a trip back in history of the "who's who" during several decades.

Funny -- the stores at the base of the mountain are named "The Brass Ranch" -- the area was, in fact, the Brass Ranch - which was purchased (at $4 per acre) to build the "resort". To put that into perspective.... I bought 1.6 acres for 1.625M - to put that into perspective - current owners of "Sun Valley" bought the entire operation in 1977 for 12M - of which my property was part of that deal. LOL

fleet 09-11-2017 08:28 AM

Greg,


My wife likes old musicals and watched

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Valley_Serenade that was filmed there.

Being in the same room, I caught some friendly fire.

:waveflag:

GregWeld 09-11-2017 01:46 PM

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Okay -- just for you Skeep..... I pulled over on my way home and took a couple shots.

There are 26 ORIGINAL Cobras -- about to start on a 1000 mile cruise up in to Montana and back here (their trailers are all here). It explains them being at the Lodge (not the cheapest place in town - it's 5 star hotel).





https://lateral-g.net/forums/atta...1&d=1505162716






https://lateral-g.net/forums/atta...1&d=1505162716

fleet 09-11-2017 02:38 PM

I appreciate that Greg. :thumbsup:

Food will taste better, you'll sleep better, Charley might even be a little nicer (for one day). All these kinds of things happen to people that take pics of real Cobras.


:thankyou:

Musclerodz 09-11-2017 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 665501)
Okay -- just for you Skeep..... I pulled over on my way home and took a couple shots.

There are 26 ORIGINAL Cobras -- about to start on a 1000 mile cruise up in to Montana and back here (their trailers are all here). It explains them being at the Lodge (not the cheapest place in town - it's 5 star hotel).





https://lateral-g.net/forums/atta...1&d=1505162716






https://lateral-g.net/forums/atta...1&d=1505162716

You think they would have security on site with that much money laying around.

fleet 09-11-2017 02:54 PM

#McQueenMonday
 
https://s20.postimg.org/jls9oviu5/IMG_9422.jpg

GregWeld 09-11-2017 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Musclerodz (Post 665511)
You think they would have security on site with that much money laying around.



Oh they do.... trust me.

GregWeld 09-11-2017 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Cosmo mentis (Post 665513)



Okay -- you know he was a Sun Valley guy right?


http://hallhall.com/ranches-for-sale...eer-moon-ranch


And you know he had a LOTUS 11 -------- which is why the late models are called a Lotus 2-11 ---- it's the second version from the original 11 --- they're twice as heavy and twice the horsepower....


https://lateral-g.net/forums/atta...1&d=1505167931

GregWeld 09-11-2017 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cosmo mentis (Post 665510)
I appreciate that Greg. :thumbsup:

Food will taste better, you'll sleep better, Charley might even be a little nicer (for one day). All these kinds of things happen to people that take pics of real Cobras.


:thankyou:



Never happen..... and I have to spend 6 or 7 days with him this month on the GoodGuys Hall of Fame Tour.... UGH!

fleet 09-11-2017 04:22 PM

Greg,

The Sun Valley/McQueen stuff sounds familiar, but I didn't know about the Lotus.

Thanks.

fleet 09-12-2017 04:35 AM

1st Shelby Cobra testing at Bonneville
 
https://s20.postimg.org/3rvqxynml/IMG_9108.jpg

Maybe built by this guy?

https://s20.postimg.org/94klc3bj1/IMG_9440.jpg

Ketzer 09-12-2017 07:21 AM

I've never had the desire to own a Cobra but I have enjoyed the veiwpoints in this thread! A lot of it could be applied to most hotrods....

fleet 09-12-2017 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ketzer (Post 665546)
I've never had the desire to own a Cobra but I have enjoyed the veiwpoints in this thread! A lot of it could be applied to most hotrods....

Good point...

fleet 09-12-2017 08:34 AM

Besides Factory Five (which I need to study a lot more) another popular replica I found is Backdraft.

I like the pro-touring vibe some of them have too. Uses a suspension system based on a BMW M3 suspendion iirc.

https://s20.postimg.org/qemnla5gd/IMG_9277.jpg

https://s20.postimg.org/nhzmkzzml/IMG_9280.jpg

https://s20.postimg.org/vwanvcba5/IMG_9271.jpg

https://s20.postimg.org/uep7js6jh/IMG_9269.jpg

Optional 'GT' fender treatment. Personally I'd pass on it...

https://s20.postimg.org/bibpul4pp/IMG_9470.jpg

https://s20.postimg.org/lxhw3i1wd/IMG_9466.jpg

https://s20.postimg.org/mj6uzlwyl/IMG_9473.jpg

https://s20.postimg.org/h2ssiysyl/IMG_9477.jpg

GregWeld 09-12-2017 08:41 AM

Quit talking and buy something.

GregWeld 09-12-2017 08:52 AM

Backdraft is a Florida company --- now's the time to strike a deal. They'll be in need of cash for cleanup.

Remember these are glass bodied cars --- therefore are not "expensive" to start with. They have several in stock and ready for you to install a motor. Pick up the phone and buy something.

fleet 09-12-2017 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 665089)
NEVER EVER EVER NEVER buy a car you haven't looked at with your own eyes and DRIVEN YOURSELF. It's a 100K car -- spend $1500 on airfare and a hotel room. If you can't do that -- then you shouldn't be buying anything.

No buyee over the phone.

See above.

:P

GregWeld 09-12-2017 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cosmo mentis (Post 665561)
No buyee over the phone.

See above.

:P

They still fly airplanes.....

fleet 09-12-2017 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 665563)
They still fly airplanes.....

Yep.

Found one especially for Florida...Bruh ;)

https://s20.postimg.org/g4cfgofml/IMG_9485.jpg


(No offense to our Florida folks of course).

These guys are Backdraft dealers and are a lot closer.

http://www.toybarncars.com/inventory?page=2

Found a Vette in the same state too.

GregWeld 09-12-2017 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cosmo mentis (Post 665561)
No buyee over the phone.

See above.

:P




Ah ----- WTF..... forgot you're not dealing with Charley

fleet 09-12-2017 11:57 AM

I don't mind if I have to take a plane ride... gives me a chance to catch up on my reading.

https://s20.postimg.org/roh98ponx/IMG_9490.jpg


:popcorn2:

GregWeld 09-12-2017 04:24 PM

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fleet 09-12-2017 05:54 PM

^^^^^^^
I see it got very good reviews.

If McQeen had lived, he and fellow SV resident Clint Eastwood would both be 87.

Likely you remember this article Greg. And since CE talks about 'Pale Rider', it doesn't count as hijacking my own thread....lol

https://s20.postimg.org/6nr7nsl5p/IMG_9496.jpg

GregWeld 09-12-2017 06:53 PM

He was a car guy - McQueen..... so it's still a car thread! LOL

Eastwood is here all the time --- and hangs out at the Warm Springs ski lodge - where he is free just to be himself. Not a soul bothers him. He can hang with his friends and just go out and ski. Ditto the myriad of other 'famous' folks that have homes around here. They can just come and be people, not famous people. They can work out at the gym - ski - have a nice lunch in a restaurant.... nobody asks for an autograph or pulls out a camera. It's kind cool like that here. Not sure why it's like that - but it is.

I think that's why the Allen & Company conference has been here for so many years -- all of those folks can come and feel safe -- and not be bothered one iota.

26 REAL Cobras come here to cruise town - and drive around - cruise the mountain hiways.... and they don't have to worry about them. I've never removed the keys from my cars or locked them - since I moved here. Pretty nice to live that way. They've come here for several years now it seems.

So now you need to buy a real Cobra...... and come cruise with them!!! LOL -- See how I brought that back to a Cobra discussion?



:G-Dub: :G-Dub: :G-Dub: :flashie:

DBasher 09-12-2017 08:26 PM

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If you're looking for the real deal, Skip...I got a guy. It's real but doesn't have any kind of important history...other than it's a real Cobra :lostmarbles: He mentioned it was for sale...you know it's a great investment.😎

GregWeld 09-13-2017 05:42 AM

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Love the car next to it --- BP -- "B" Production. That's what Old Yeller is supposed to be a clone of -- and Charley owned, and tracked, a real B/P 1966 GT 350 that I think was a class champion.

Lined up here -- Big Mike and his NASCAR - CHARLIES '66 - ME - and then Chet (used to be Pantera Bob's car)






https://lateral-g.net/forums/atta...1&d=1505306426

fleet 09-13-2017 06:17 AM

Making sure the 'yutes get a proper education. :)

https://s20.postimg.org/3t223xafx/IMG_9519.jpg

https://s20.postimg.org/7zmwj9a1p/IMG_9517.jpg

The guy in the background almost looks like a security type...interesting.

https://s20.postimg.org/y97z21vz1/IMG_9518.jpg

https://s20.postimg.org/4xw49awwt/IMG_9513.jpg

fleet 09-13-2017 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 665584)
He was a car guy - McQueen..... so it's still a car thread! LOL

Eastwood is here all the time --- and hangs out at the Warm Springs ski lodge - where he is free just to be himself. Not a soul bothers him. He can hang with his friends and just go out and ski. Ditto the myriad of other 'famous' folks that have homes around here. They can just come and be people, not famous people. They can work out at the gym - ski - have a nice lunch in a restaurant.... nobody asks for an autograph or pulls out a camera. It's kind cool like that here. Not sure why it's like that - but it is.

I think that's why the Allen & Company conference has been here for so many years -- all of those folks can come and feel safe -- and not be bothered one iota.

26 REAL Cobras come here to cruise town - and drive around - cruise the mountain hiways.... and they don't have to worry about them. I've never removed the keys from my cars or locked them - since I moved here. Pretty nice to live that way. They've come here for several years now it seems.

So now you need to buy a real Cobra...... and come cruise with them!!! LOL -- See how I brought that back to a Cobra discussion?


:G-Dub: :G-Dub: :G-Dub: :flashie:

Sun Valley sounds like a very special place. :thumbsup:

The old saying "You are known by the company you keep." seems to fit SV. :)

26 real deal Cobras there...hope someone took some high quality vids.

I hadn't thought about owning a real one until you and Bash brought it up.


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Originally Posted by DBasher (Post 665585)
If you're looking for the real deal, Skip...I got a guy. It's real but doesn't have any kind of important history...other than it's a real Cobra :lostmarbles: He mentioned it was for sale...you know it's a great investment.😎

Thanks Bash for posting that.

#yesplease

I like the investment part to go along with the fun factor. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 665587)
Love the car next to it --- BP -- "B" Production. That's what Old Yeller is supposed to be a clone of -- and Charley owned, and tracked, a real B/P 1966 GT 350 that I think was a class champion.

Lined up here -- Big Mike and his NASCAR - CHARLIES '66 - ME - and then Chet (used to be Pantera Bob's car)

https://lateral-g.net/forums/atta...1&d=1505306426

Cool pic Greg. :thumbsup:

DBasher 09-13-2017 07:24 AM

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That BP car happens to be the first Shelby built for competition, I believe it's serial number 002. The owner actually has serial number 001 as well which was the first "street" version....and the last Shelby built in 69...and 2 of 4 Shelby convertibles. It's a great place to go work for the day. :flag2:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hem...1.html%3famp=1

fleet 09-13-2017 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBasher (Post 665596)
That BP car happens to be the first Shelby built for competition, I believe it's serial number 002. The owner actually has serial number 001 as well which was the first "street" version....and the last Shelby built in 69...and 2 of 4 Shelby convertibles. It's a great place to go work for the day. :flag2:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hem...1.html%3famp=1

Very impressive Bash...

fleet 09-14-2017 09:49 AM

Funny the stuff you come across when you're not even looking to further suck up more bandwidth here...

:BlahBlah: :BlahBlah:

https://s20.postimg.org/ef4aywaal/IMG_9625.jpg

Credit to Lee Stewart and his little 3.5mm page view muscle car thread.

https://www.highdefforum.com/1412525-post13911.html

That appears to be bigger than the legendary 'locked but loaded' BMF Camaro thread...

:P


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