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GregWeld 03-25-2018 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DBasher (Post 675047)
Is it done yet? :popcorn2:



Almost !!

FETorino 03-25-2018 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 675207)
Almost !!

But still no wing pictures?

57hemicuda 03-26-2018 02:45 AM

Nothing but a chicken wing

GregWeld 03-26-2018 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 675220)
But still no wing pictures?



Some people need "parts" to try to go faster..... Some just need to get in the car.

FETorino 03-26-2018 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 675227)
Some people need "parts" to try to go faster..... Some just need to get in the car.

What can I say. I like wings. :thumbsup:

DBasher 03-26-2018 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 675227)
Some people need "parts" to try to go faster..... Some just need to get in the car.

At least pull it out of the trailer....:hello:

Ron Sutton 03-26-2018 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 675220)
But still no wing pictures?

It's not here yet you dang over achiever! My nick name used to be the Hamster. I am going to pass that on to you Rob. LOL

Ron Sutton 03-26-2018 11:43 AM

The first photos here show the new steel inner rocker panel Randy builds for the fiberglass body. They utilize nutserts. The frame will have matching holes to bolt the rocker panels to the frame. It will also attach in 6 other locations. The body "can be" removed in about an hour or so. The goal is not to make the body come off quickly, nor often, just if need be to make repairs.

http://www.pro-touring.com/attachmen...9&d=1522088739

http://www.pro-touring.com/attachmen...0&d=1522088926

http://www.pro-touring.com/attachmen...2&d=1522088958

http://www.pro-touring.com/attachmen...3&d=1522088980

http://www.pro-touring.com/attachmen...4&d=1522089011

http://www.pro-touring.com/attachmen...5&d=1522089038

The odd braces are to keep everything true until the roll cage is installed.

http://www.pro-touring.com/attachmen...6&d=1522089104

http://www.pro-touring.com/attachmen...7&d=1522089138

http://www.pro-touring.com/attachmen...8&d=1522089177

Off to get the roll cage installed at Tolle Fab, a few doors down.

http://www.pro-touring.com/attachmen...9&d=1522089229

http://www.pro-touring.com/attachmen...0&d=1522089257

http://www.pro-touring.com/attachmen...1&d=1522089276

SSLance 03-26-2018 11:57 AM

Ron, where else will the body attach to the frame besides the rockers?

And that sway bar tube up front!!! Can I get one like that for Barney? :D

Ron Sutton 03-26-2018 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SSLance (Post 675259)
Ron, where else will the body attach to the frame besides the rockers?

And that sway bar tube up front!!! Can I get one like that for Barney? :D


Great question Lance.

The "Shell" attaches to the car in many places with small light attachment points.

We weld light brackets to small squares with holes (see below) and glass them into the roof in five places. Three that connect to the front roof hoop (near the windshield). Two more that connect behind the roll cage main hoop. These are primarily to prevent the body from shaking itself apart from air buffeting around it.

Randy makes two, light brackets to attach the taillight panel to the frame rails. They attach to about 24" of aluminum glassed into the body. The sheet metal trunk floor & tubs are aluminum & bond to the body about 200 linear inches.

The rear bulkhead, which we treat as a rear firewall, is made out of steel sheet metal, sealed with a special fire blocker. This bulkhead bonds to the body about 80-90 linear inches.

Where the door strikers mount, we tie into side of the roll cage main hoop with small diameter chromoly tubing. This connects the body as well. Where the door hinge mounts go, we tie into side of the roll cage firewall upright tubes with small diameter chromoly tubing & connect to the body again.

Up at the firewall, which will be also be made of steel sheet metal & sealed with a special fire blocker, the body attaches to the firewall with about 28 rivets (every 4inches).

The cockpit floor is also made out of steel sheet metal, welded in & sealed with a special fire blocker. The engine compartment sheet metal is aluminum.

:cheers:

gofastwclass 03-26-2018 02:31 PM

That is really cool Ron! You have this stuff really sorted out. :)

Ron Sutton 03-26-2018 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SSLance (Post 675259)

And that sway bar tube up front!!! Can I get one like that for Barney? :D


Why ... YES you can! LOL

Go to pages 203-205 HERE.

* The 1.25" 3-Piece Sway Bars on page 202 are what we put in our TA2 clips.
* They are also standard in the Speedtech Extrmeme clips & chassis I designed. Rates up to 1200#. Good for 3" front end dive or less.

* The "Step-Up" Bars on page 203 are what we put in the AXT clips, and as a meaner upgrade on Speedtech Extrmeme clips & chassis. Rates from 1300# up to 2000# plus. Good for 3" front end dive or less.

* The Monster Sway Bar kits are standard on our TA & GT front Clips & Track-Warriors like Greg's. Rates from 1500# to 5500#. That's NOT a typo. Good for up to 5" of front end dive.



GregWeld 03-26-2018 04:59 PM

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I know there's some guys that are quite worried about the speed at which my car is being built -- but then -- they're on the 10 year + plan.....


This is less than a week.....




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Flash68 03-26-2018 05:01 PM

I'm diggin that Camaro in the background there ^^

:hitaxeonthehead:

GregWeld 03-26-2018 05:05 PM

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Note that it's fully welded not just tacked...... LOL



I'd say Sutton knows how to get a race car built -- maybe 'cause he's done this a time or two??





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Ummgawa 03-26-2018 05:07 PM

Wow man. That things going to be a beast. A sweet beast...Izzat possible?

Blake Foster 03-26-2018 05:30 PM

Awesome good to see the progress!!! going to be a fun ride!!

FETorino 03-26-2018 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Blake Foster (Post 675284)
Awesome good to see the progress!!! going to be a fun ride!!

Ehh. It’s no SN95 Mustang. :underchair:

GregWeld 03-26-2018 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 675288)
Ehh. It’s no SN95 Mustang. :underchair:



Well thank god for that! Glad I got that goin' for me. :headspin:

DBasher 03-26-2018 08:08 PM

Does the chassis/cage get coated are stay raw?

GregWeld 03-26-2018 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DBasher (Post 675295)
Does the chassis/cage get coated are stay raw?



It's not an SN95 or a Fox ----- so, of course it gets powder coated.....

Come on.... you ever see any of my stuff??? LOL

DBasher 03-26-2018 08:43 PM

Yeah, I almost didn’t ask but have seen “race” cars go either way....I suppose it would look kinda silly raw with the suede headliner and door panels. :lol:

GregWeld 03-26-2018 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DBasher (Post 675299)
Yeah, I almost didn’t ask but have seen “race” cars go either way....I suppose it would look kinda silly raw with the suede headliner and door panels. :lol:

It's just gotta run a 1:58 flat

DBasher 03-26-2018 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 675300)
It's just gotta run a 1:58 flat

So now you’re hiring a driver? 😉

Flash68 03-26-2018 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 675296)
It's not an SN95 or a Fox ----- so, of course it gets powder coated.....

LOL! Rude! :lol:

GregWeld 03-26-2018 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DBasher (Post 675302)
So now you’re hiring a driver? 😉



I had a "ringer" driver but we're not seeing eye to eye......

DBasher 03-26-2018 09:06 PM

Now that’s funny!

Musclerodz 03-26-2018 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 675304)
not seeing eye to eye......

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

57hemicuda 03-27-2018 04:25 AM

So cool, I love build pictures.

https://photos.smugmug.com/Cars/AMX/...7-072140-L.png

Ron Sutton 03-27-2018 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DBasher (Post 675295)
Does the chassis/cage get coated are stay raw?

Powder coat gloss black

Ron Sutton 03-27-2018 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DBasher (Post 675299)
Yeah, I almost didn’t ask but have seen “race” cars go either way....I suppose it would look kinda silly raw with the suede headliner and door panels. :lol:

Dan ! Suede? No way. Corduroy !

Ron Sutton 03-27-2018 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 675300)
It's just gotta run a 1:58 flat

Are we going to pull some spark plug wires? :stirthepot:

GregWeld 03-27-2018 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron Sutton (Post 675319)
Are we going to pull some spark plug wires? :stirthepot:

LOL ---- yeah ---- maybe 4 of them....


Was laughing at the time, thinking of Sonoma when Gaetano (AKA: Track Junky - ran a best of 1:58.5) was going to show me how it was done.... LOL

gerno 03-27-2018 08:22 AM

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Ron,

What size and wall thickness is the tubing and all being used under the floor? Looking for both the larger rail by the tunnel and the outer one on the rocker as well as the smaller pieces tying the 2 larger rails together if you don't mind.

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DBasher 03-27-2018 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by gerno (Post 675332)
Ron,

What size and wall thickness is the tubing and all being used under the floor? Looking for both the larger rail by the tunnel and the outer one on the rocker as well as the smaller pieces tying the 2 larger rails together if you don't mind.

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And where do the pneumatic jacks mount? :thumbsup:

Ron Sutton 03-27-2018 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by gerno (Post 675332)
Ron,

What size and wall thickness is the tubing and all being used under the floor? Looking for both the larger rail by the tunnel and the outer one on the rocker as well as the smaller pieces tying the 2 larger rails together if you don't mind.

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Hey Steve,

Great question.

The front & rear crossmembers are 2"x3"x.120" & the outer rails are 2"x2"x.120". The inner structure is all .065" wall. Frankly the .120" wall is just for safety.

The .065" everywhere would be plenty rigid with all the triangulation & the tubular backbone that is not in there yet. Stay tuned.


Ron Sutton 03-27-2018 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DBasher (Post 675338)
And where do the pneumatic jacks mount? :thumbsup:

Ahh, you'll need to wait & see. But you won't be waiting long.

Payton King 03-27-2018 10:30 AM

Coming together nicely!

GregWeld 03-27-2018 06:45 PM

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I was looking around for the smartass that asked about air jacks..... hmmmmmm can't exactly remember who in the Pacific Northwest asked about that...





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DBasher 03-27-2018 08:36 PM

Takes one to know one 😘

I know this has been called the Boss in some circles, though I’m pretty sure it’s your Fumanchu...get er done!


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