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SuperBuickGuy 03-16-2022 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Panteracer (Post 718053)
I like the struts layed back a little so matching the
back of the car. I have changed the ends on mine
multiple times... Starting to rework the ones on my
Gt-1 race car plus raising the wing some

Bob

Love your car.

I need to do some rule diving again... moving the wing back might help, but C3 Corvettes get nose light - so moving the point where it's pushing down further back might not be a good idea on the track.... wonder if they'd notice if I swapped struts between the track session and the autox....

SuperBuickGuy 03-18-2022 04:59 PM

well, look what's back?
https://i.imgur.com/TBXMJg4h.jpg
dark bronze
https://i.imgur.com/70Syb4ih.jpg
fuel cap too
https://i.imgur.com/T2ebVsuh.jpg
I like. a lot
https://i.imgur.com/kJ9Hqhyh.jpg
truly better then I expected.... I thought I went too dark
https://i.imgur.com/CxdmyFPh.jpg
with the wing in place
https://i.imgur.com/olBY9k5h.jpg

SuperBuickGuy 03-19-2022 09:46 PM

a bit done tonight
more fittings - most important is that stainless one
https://i.imgur.com/tMf7JcDh.jpg
the problem is I welded a pipe fitting for the return when I needed an AN one... oops... will use it as a vent
https://i.imgur.com/zFIBeUah.jpg
and welded
https://i.imgur.com/lotX6oeh.jpg

in other news, I'm a really bad influence.... the red Corvette owner has bbc plans :)
https://i.imgur.com/BI0f9HEh.jpg

WSSix 03-20-2022 07:45 AM

I think you picked a good color with the rims :thumbsup:

Ricochet 03-20-2022 08:49 AM

Looks great!!!

What color exactly are the wheels? I'm looking for a titanium/bronze color for my centers. Assuming they are satin cleared as well?

SuperBuickGuy 03-20-2022 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricochet (Post 718116)
Looks great!!!

What color exactly are the wheels? I'm looking for a titanium/bronze color for my centers. Assuming they are satin cleared as well?

I'll have to call the powder coater... it was a special order dark bronze.

SuperBuickGuy 03-20-2022 10:10 PM

Spoiler is supported by the frame... I also put window glue in place to keep the warp and vibration transmission to a minimum
https://i.imgur.com/PBuKL2ih.jpg
measuring done, time to make the tank support
https://i.imgur.com/4VyOMYoh.jpg
keep in mind I was about 150 lbs light for where I'm racing.... I'll probably gain 30 or 40 lbs in this... all on the correct end
https://i.imgur.com/41BWO5Eh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/nk1HQETh.jpg
framework installed
https://i.imgur.com/MVeSTIuh.jpg
not in love with the straps, however, I plan on supporting the defuser off them - so function trumps form
https://i.imgur.com/wKSaKYkh.jpg
up the tank goes - the metal duct tape was put in place to keep the fiberglass from sagging when I filled the holes for the luggage rack
https://i.imgur.com/uzsDJASh.jpg
very close - I wanted to make it solid but I wouldn't be able to get the fuel pump out if I did
https://i.imgur.com/aOanwENh.jpg
last test fit, next up with the fill neck, lines attached, electrical attached and rubber protection on the metal bands
​​​​​​​https://i.imgur.com/hlfDYEsh.jpg

SuperBuickGuy 03-21-2022 09:00 AM

Splitter material... best source?

SuperBuickGuy 03-21-2022 09:01 PM

a little further
wheels with tires on them
https://i.imgur.com/jeSZkNch.jpg
cut down the fill neck so I can use a flexible rubber hose for the offset
https://i.imgur.com/3EeXqeEh.jpg
padding/rubber top and bottom
https://i.imgur.com/zx8Tg4Gh.jpg
getting close... waiting on a fitting and the fill hose
https://i.imgur.com/zDH04cLh.jpg

SuperBuickGuy 03-22-2022 10:04 PM

it runs again...
https://i.imgur.com/5BZ5wZ2.jpg
interior is back in it
https://i.imgur.com/PSWXy1m.jpg
next up? front stuff
https://i.imgur.com/zqSW4dl.jpg
looks all buff in the back.... but more to do...thankfully, this isn't a take the car mostly apart deal
https://i.imgur.com/YpF0RWP.jpg
also need to program and do weighing

SuperBuickGuy 03-23-2022 09:41 PM

time to weigh

https://i.imgur.com/QX3YgBkh.jpg

oh and I'm done with this argument.... the weight of a BBC powered C3 Corvette... 7 gallons of fuel in the tank

https://i.imgur.com/K6izgAAh.jpg

- something cool, if you look next to the weight numbers, it tells you where the weight is on the tire... didn't realize that - outside has a hair less weight then the inside of the tire

which does create a problem since 3200 is the minimum weight.... Optima weighs after the track sessions - the problem is 20 gallons is 120 lbs. - and without the driver (darn, my non-fitness program would finally pay off).... 30 minute on a track at high speed will burn more then 3 gallons..so I will be adding weight

so with that bad news, I figured I'd fix my window alignment

https://i.imgur.com/l3feqXOh.jpg

is 'fixed' the window won't go up again with the switch? oh good lord.

https://i.imgur.com/PSWXy1mh.jpg

but it seems fixed as far as sealing - however, I'll be verifying this before I put the door panel back on

that's enough for tonight

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*oh wait, cue dramatic music... the rack has a small leak - it owes me nothing because I bought it to use to mock up... it worked so it hasn't been changed. It might be the fitting but just one more thing.... lordy.

SuperBuickGuy 03-25-2022 10:26 PM

sight and sounds


camcojb 03-26-2022 10:50 AM

Fixed it for you

https://lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php?t=48663

Should be faassttt!!!

SuperBuickGuy 03-28-2022 09:13 PM

time for some CAD work
https://i.imgur.com/49uG6qvh.jpg
half and half?
https://i.imgur.com/tUEP5kwh.jpg
there are times when I want to troll... this picture is for those trolls
https://i.imgur.com/zose38hh.jpg
and more of the left
​​​​​​​https://i.imgur.com/oVwLSplh.jpg
on the other hand
https://i.imgur.com/rv49PI8h.jpg

SuperBuickGuy 03-29-2022 10:14 PM

tonight's fun, working with aluminum and plastic
https://i.imgur.com/joNCvMlh.jpg
​​​​​​​HDPE
https://i.imgur.com/3oBvwQRh.jpg

it is Plastic Fantastic, after all...

SuperBuickGuy 03-30-2022 09:23 PM

onward
time to start fitting
https://i.imgur.com/Mmzwanvh.jpg
easy so far
https://i.imgur.com/LbXb37Hh.jpg
now getting harder
https://i.imgur.com/LXKOSjZh.jpg
look at the top edges, as I start making the spoiler follow the side-to-side changes (it goes flat in front of the tire) that pulls the top in.... I also have to radii the part which follows the wheel opening. I suspect there will be more then on attempt at this.... and all of this to get hate from tracks because it has neither ABS no traction control... and as a bonus is not quiet....

​​​​​​​ah well, if it were easy....

SuperBuickGuy 03-31-2022 09:29 PM

narrower
https://i.imgur.com/b0vtQcVh.jpg
reality is I didn't like the extensions - so I narrowed it
https://i.imgur.com/8oB3qhzh.jpg
welding mounting tabs
https://i.imgur.com/CriMSylh.jpg
there is a danger to being on the ground....
https://i.imgur.com/J4yAcnQh.jpg
not sure how much of this I'll use
https://i.imgur.com/AhZyYfMh.jpg
mostly held by tabs
https://i.imgur.com/483jLKFh.jpg

in other news, another BB for another C3
https://i.imgur.com/8r83f3Ph.jpg
and aluminum heads
​​​​​​​https://i.imgur.com/ir89Jech.jpg

I know this is sacrilege in some circles, but if you can fit a BBC, you can make remarkable, NA power for relatively cheap. Not just that but ocean flat and ocean wide torque. LS is a fantastic motor, I have one in Buinicorn, but if a BB made sense, I'd even swap it for one in it (I have one, just not for it)

SuperBuickGuy 04-01-2022 08:07 PM

getting there
https://i.imgur.com/W6r5B8bh.jpg
then comes the make it stay
​​​​​​​https://i.imgur.com/cg7mq35h.jpg

SuperBuickGuy 04-03-2022 09:37 PM

blanking plate to direct air to the radiator
https://i.imgur.com/rVsICXhh.jpg
metal
https://i.imgur.com/hNlb0cCh.jpg
installed-ish
https://i.imgur.com/oBoncneh.jpg
welding aluminum is so easy
https://i.imgur.com/NFWreN7h.jpg
getting closer
https://i.imgur.com/kmu1wkRh.jpg
​​​​​​​https://i.imgur.com/JgdE3tah.jpg
now to decide how much splitter... the blue lines are potential cut lines
https://i.imgur.com/fzEMOQhh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/NN4fcC9h.jpg

SuperBuickGuy 04-04-2022 09:12 PM

for now, the splitter portion stays off.... I want to test like this - I also have a few other things to do to help with air management and rear brake cooling

and more fitting, but this time with a grinder
https://i.imgur.com/csAEuvph.jpg
it will be black when it's done - but I still have a bit more welding to do
​​​​​​​https://i.imgur.com/UXVlWOCh.jpg

SuperBuickGuy 04-05-2022 10:20 PM

brake air intakes
https://i.imgur.com/el72wdvh.jpg
here they are.... not going to use them
https://i.imgur.com/9W4JkTOh.jpg
the issues are too wide and they aim down.... and take up a lot of room
https://i.imgur.com/dxhA2Glh.jpg
so just holes
https://i.imgur.com/ebafiowh.jpg
was planning on these at the wheels but they'll work quite well here
https://i.imgur.com/NYeA1NGh.jpg
some 3" tube to aim the flow at the rotors
https://i.imgur.com/y7QzAekh.jpg
paint the blanking plate
https://i.imgur.com/Osbd8Hfh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/BugloQCh.jpg

SuperBuickGuy 04-06-2022 10:06 PM

another track day completed.... I had the Cadillac airborne.... so much fun (and yes, I knew I'd go airborne)... did a nice 100 mph 4 wheel drift... nothing to see here, moving along ;)

in other news, painted the spoiler
https://i.imgur.com/FIiGfdWh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/zykoG1kh.jpg
and installed the block
https://i.imgur.com/eGP43Hch.jpg

Soooo, next Friday, I'm doing a Track Night in America at Portland International Raceway.... but
forecast has snow in it. Granted, it's supposed to be 'just' rain by Friday (the weather witches are just guessing) - however, that's not better because rain cancels.... and honestly, that 2 1/2 mile track would be nothing but standing water and stained underpants if it was doing anything but mist.....

I really want to do this track night for a couple reasons - 1) it's where I'm doing Optima this year - thus it's like a free practice, but then 2) noise. I want actual data on noise. I think I have it solved - but the 'if it's not' is I'm building new sidepipes with a far different design... and that will take a solid month to build... I plan on doing this next winter - it will have oval exhaust because Chad (old timers know this story).... but the benefit of new headers is I think these 4' primary pipes destroy power...

next winter I plan on building headers/sidepipes that make power for the revamped motor. Also put on port EFI.... now is 600 hp, next up is 900 but more importantly, a wider power band (more rpm) - which pretty much demands custom built headers. I know this might surprise you, but I've built more then a few sets of custom headers - I actually really enjoy doing it.

SuperBuickGuy 04-07-2022 11:03 PM

it looks nice
https://i.imgur.com/sBVEI6dh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Qcvs3Jih.jpg
too bad it's too low
https://i.imgur.com/tGJ2D5Vh.jpg
ugh.
https://i.imgur.com/r357rQ5h.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/IoMX1t4h.jpg

so, it's opportunity. The holes in that valence are a problem for aerodynamics - and it was rightly suggested I block them.... so I will the calculation for cooling is you need 1/3 the radiator surface in grill opening... worst case scenario is I put a vent in the closing panel... the problem is it will be hard to create access for the bolts.... and a bit shorter spoiler.... 3 1/2" was not enough.... the other choice might be to make it flexible with reinforced rubber....

That said, $100 later and the tank is full with - bonus, it's not leaking or smelling.... capacity is 25-26 gallons.

oh and we're moving .... this should be fun (3 hours east)

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SuperBuickGuy 04-10-2022 10:23 PM

dangling brake cooling lines
https://i.imgur.com/SC3YBMBh.jpg

a start to a new setup
https://i.imgur.com/3fM5MIyh.jpg
the biggest problem is the spoiler can't hang more then 2" from the angle
https://i.imgur.com/FQEfZSOh.jpg
laid out a new plate - then the shear wouldn't start....
https://i.imgur.com/UFWarT5h.jpg
I'm going to try something... according to what I've read - you need an air inlet that is 1/3rd the size of the radiator.
https://i.imgur.com/0RxvHe5h.jpg
so basically, I'm going to eliminate the under side holes - however, if it doesn't work, I can simply pull the plate and get flow back....

SuperBuickGuy 04-11-2022 10:00 PM

spoiler v2 cont.
https://i.imgur.com/XeiljrQh.jpg
what that doesn't explain is I had to diagnose and fix my shear...
https://i.imgur.com/4NAsQrAh.jpg
tomorrow's goal is make this look less hardware store
​​​​​​​https://i.imgur.com/72qiKlfh.jpg

I should explain that plate comment. C3 Corvettes have terrible nose lift at high speeds (they also have big problems with aero with the vertical rear window - the air actually goes backwards as it tumbles off the targa). If you look closely at any of the race C3s from the day, you'll see a number of solutions to 'fix' the problem.... but the worst part is that air making a change from horizontal to vertical - it literally lifts on the bottom of the hood... not optimal. This is why people delete the front license plate or even put the 80/81 nose on their older car.... for completeness, the tumble issue is why most racers used convertibles - no sail panels, no tumble....

SuperBuickGuy 04-12-2022 11:14 PM

more CAD
https://i.imgur.com/i1IN4Rph.jpg
now in metal
​​​​​​​https://i.imgur.com/kCtiPKPh.jpg

SuperBuickGuy 04-17-2022 09:11 PM

did some work on this today...

worked on the spoiler
https://i.imgur.com/3KX6Zjph.jpg
cut the block plate and spoiler out of one piece of aluminum
https://i.imgur.com/UFrtzbMh.jpg
the bottom inch will be rubber....
https://i.imgur.com/hqqfAT7h.jpg
also fixed some cracks because it was finally warm enough to use epoxy
https://i.imgur.com/F6vwULuh.jpg

SuperBuickGuy 04-18-2022 09:54 PM

considering if this is what I want
https://i.imgur.com/un45WgJh.jpg
or this
https://i.imgur.com/LC6cJ5Kh.jpg

in other news, painting inner liners
https://i.imgur.com/IaurbmDh.jpg
and wiring the reverse light
https://i.imgur.com/OIXryvxh.jpg

all while waiting for the epoxy to fully dry
https://i.imgur.com/wn01q32h.jpg

SuperBuickGuy 04-20-2022 09:50 PM

beta version etch primer
https://i.imgur.com/JGhUAjEh.jpg
installed
https://i.imgur.com/T2GkYRfh.jpg
rivet the rubber spoiler on
https://i.imgur.com/onAagNeh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/RuZonUth.jpg
install edges
https://i.imgur.com/2jMZiy8h.jpg
it's also bolted to the frame through the bottom of the radiator cladding
also, rather then hard attach to the fenders, the rubber stoppers will keep the metal in place but also allow it to give if I get too low....
https://i.imgur.com/C7uqcsRh.jpg
fun fun
https://i.imgur.com/9mPOZHBh.jpg
spoiler - wider and remove the lift from the nose (no catfish nose lift)
https://i.imgur.com/duNdTcUh.jpg

what's left? reverse lights and figure out why the lighter plug isn't working... then it goes in the garage to await its first racing of the season (mid-May)... and that schedule is Spokane May 15ish, and PIR May 27....
Also, need to finish up some things on the motorhome but it's close...

oh yeah, and buy 2 houses, a commercial property then move 300 miles --------> way
oh and get a puppy this weekend.
and commute to Idaho for Buick parts.

SuperBuickGuy 04-21-2022 09:04 PM

dangerously close to the object I imagined 4 years ago - well, 2 years ago after that Randy Probst guy totally upended what I planned

https://i.imgur.com/seiXluWh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/nkCX8ymh.jpg

inner fenders done
shop empty.

Monday, new project

https://i.imgur.com/PlNRxNCh.jpg

SuperBuickGuy 04-26-2022 09:23 PM

reverse light
https://i.imgur.com/KWyrK7Lh.jpg
of course I don't have the nuts for these... ugh
https://i.imgur.com/SQ7bbzLh.jpg
and more wiring
​​​​​​​https://i.imgur.com/THDInnIh.jpg

SuperBuickGuy 05-01-2022 09:40 PM

reverse light plug.... same as any other t-based trans (t5, t56, tko, tkx)
​​​​​​​https://i.imgur.com/hC6QzuLh.jpg

SuperBuickGuy 05-02-2022 09:42 PM

It was a busy night for Trio, had to hide Luigi's ball
https://i.imgur.com/XPmsDjY.jpg
yet they are peas in a pod... there is a 6 or so month age difference
https://i.imgur.com/bNnCNIjh.jpg
back to C3 content
I can move the exhaust pipe towards the car. Granted, it's no longer parallel, but I have a thought
https://i.imgur.com/55W9iWmh.jpg
that it will help deflect noise
https://i.imgur.com/DmQK43mh.jpg
I'm close, within 1 db...

SuperBuickGuy 05-03-2022 08:48 PM

I thought mistake, nope... works out to $2 a tube so I'm happy
time to refasten the sidepipes
https://i.imgur.com/HMS6v6Eh.jpg
even the trim is in place
https://i.imgur.com/UBcv7sch.jpg

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SuperBuickGuy 05-16-2022 09:57 PM

autox weekend.... the motorhome, it's beyond slow
and I need to fix the trailer brakes - developed a short on the trip
https://i.imgur.com/Nks8bbsh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/fBIQxAzh.jpg
looking for a short - and need to replace one tire...
https://i.imgur.com/L24lWNTh.jpg

I also took the opportunity to repack wheel bearings - this trailer is going to get a work out over the next few weeks...

SuperBuickGuy 05-19-2022 10:15 PM

wow, the impossibility of getting a rebuilt steering rack for a C5 or C6 is pretty remarkable.... I bought another used one, figure I'll get my current one rebuilt (maybe?)


I only post this as warning - in case others figure 'they'll just pick one up'.... yeah, even my parts guy is coming up with zeros....

camcojb 05-20-2022 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperBuickGuy (Post 718764)
wow, the impossibility of getting a rebuilt steering rack for a C5 or C6 is pretty remarkable.... I bought another used one, figure I'll get my current one rebuilt (maybe?)


I only post this as warning - in case others figure 'they'll just pick one up'.... yeah, even my parts guy is coming up with zeros....

True of many parts that are normally stocked by many vendors.

SuperBuickGuy 05-21-2022 06:32 PM

I know, I know, I should let loose the dogs of war.... this is more a letting loose the yellow labrador of love.
cold lap
the faster laps - well, I need to learn to turn the camera off after each run so the battery was done after this run
best was 52s in a really built LS Miata, 55 in my class mine was 61


SuperBuickGuy 05-23-2022 09:56 PM

if it weren't for bad luck

this isn't the problem
https://i.imgur.com/IG82xHPh.jpg
this is
https://i.imgur.com/x55Xge0h.jpg
if you're missing the issue - the mount tab is broken off.... wasn't in the box.

SuperBuickGuy 06-26-2022 07:57 PM

It's time to get ready for practice at Portland international raceway and Optima

by fixing a bent bracket

I think I may have touched a tree with the spoiler... oops

https://i.imgur.com/oc7AoI3h.jpg

bracket had to come off (not fun)

https://i.imgur.com/HvZsJMrh.jpg

and got a repaint

https://i.imgur.com/x6wZnQSh.jpg

the guy I bought the house from owns a shop with water jet - so he's going to cut out brackets for me. I want the spoiler to move back, but Optima requires that the spoiler be no taller then 8" above the highest point of the deck.... so two brackets

https://i.imgur.com/whiQbWeh.jpg

measure the highest point with a box top

https://i.imgur.com/B4bxzHyh.jpg



so these two bits...

https://i.imgur.com/c2uYFHQh.jpg


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