You've been in California to long. There is a pecking order in life. Just ask Greg Weld. :mock:

Ouch. :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=compos mentis;464765]Ouch. :rolleyes:



:idea: :thumbsup: :idea: :thankyou:

Multiple times!

:peepwall:

LOL

Just keep chipping away at it!

Hey! If we don't get back to having some fun.... I'm going to figure out how to unsubscribe!!

:thankyou: for that Jerdog...that was funny!

toodles! Where do you come up w/this stuff.:rofl:

Crap! It's turning into a short movie thread now. :lmao: :popcorn2:

:idea: Hmmm... movie clips huh? I wonder how long until the boobie still shots evolve in that fashion?:popcorn2:
:D

More trivial pursuit..........

Does anyone know how short Accel "shorty" plugs are? I can't find a length specification anywhere for them. :headscratch:

Here's why I ask:

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-s...-sTHvxqB-M.jpg

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-4...-4jj2dwR-M.jpg

The Autolite's currently in use which I believe are a little shorter than average:
http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-X...-XDRnT7n-M.jpg

The boot is burnt to the point where arcing may be an issue.

Any clearance solutions much appreciated!

Connector, boot, shorty plug, clearance the tube, bendable sparky plug? :D

Tucker scalped his toodles when he spun-out on the driveway the other day.

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-z...-zrG2tQn-M.jpg

:confused59:

I dig your dog aventures and all Sieg, but I coulda done without that one. :poke:

Sorry life happens...........and my dogs ain't wearing undies. :D

Sometimes I don't either, but I aint posting pics :lol:

Run a straight boot on that cylinder and cover it with one of these or similar.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/hsp-400204

I 2ND THAT

:lmao: :lmao:
:thankyou:



"Run a straight boot on that cylinder and cover it with one of these or similar".

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/hsp-400204

^^^^ SIEG BABY Do what Rob suggested ^^^^

At least I warned you guy's that there would be Toodles...........I guess just be thankful there not ours! :thumbsup:

The Accel Shorty plugs are hardly any different than a normal plug... like a 1/4" shorter max.


The problem is the headers are for slant plug heads... and you're using straight plug heads.... the straight plug headers would extend further out before making the bend downward.


Try a narrower boot and then run a sock on it as well -- those boots are good - but they're also super fat.

BTW Tucker needs a skid plate!!

At least he can lick his "wounds".....

I think I would have been ok with 1 5/8 tubes, the 1 3/4" and less than optimal clearancing on that tube didn't help, thankfully it's the only one with issues. I can't believe you didn't angle plug heads in stock. :D

I measured an NGK plug I had and it was .25" longer than the Autolite, so the Accel at best is 1.75" which won't help.

MSD offers these race boots, I'll get both angles and see which provides the most clearance.

http://www.msdignition.com/Products/...t,_2/Card.aspx

http://www.msdignition.com/Products/...0,_2/Card.aspx

I may use the Moroso sleeves because the Heatshield Products sleeves are double layer which could be an issue. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/mor-71993

How about a peice of header wrap safety wired on that tube in that spot? I may have a peice here or can get one. I may also have a couple of those plug boots

The tubes touch each other and tube to boot clearance is so tight theres not much room. With the MSD grey boots it's a wedge fit until they get toasted and crumble.

Hopefully the angle boots work to keep the wire runs clean and since they sell the boots and sleeves in pairs I might as well do #3 cylinder since the boot just touches.

Here's my temp fix.
http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-Z...-Z6dxz3X-M.jpg

Really appreciate the offer, but I already have a list pending at Summit so I'll just add the boots. Besides you need all the time you can get to work on your brakes. :D

Rev says.........focus on your brakes Jerison!
http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-W...-WWMpfWm-L.jpg

Tell REV I'm on IT :hello:

It feels so wrong beating the ceramic coating off a new header. Wish Doug's would have pinched that tube .25" in the right spot. :(

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-7...7vW4zGh-XL.jpg

Had to lay of the front fender and brace on the air cleaner to get the right angle, tight swing area, small hammer, 300+ blows equals decent forearm pump too. :sieg:

Awe Sieg, I feel for you. :mad:
That had to sting a little to start smacking shiny parts so soon after :G-Dub:

I'd have lit up my oxy acetylene torch... Metal
Bends easy when it's glowing like a cherry!!!



Hahahaha



That sucks but is "hot rodding".

I know, you should see my tail pipes near the top of the rear wheels......pancakes.

I have a map gas torch but the angle wasn't the best, besides I don't like playing with fire that much any more........and Norwood was starting to piss me off so hammering on him a bit was good therapy. :D

That plug cap was arcing and causing a slight miss.

I went from 70 to 67 air bleeds. Idle now has a little meat to it.

Tighten the accel pump a little.

It's getting better.

Next will be going to 5.0 power valves from 5.5's.

I'll probably get some 65 air bleeds just to test as the idle by-pass valve is about a 1/2 turn from closed out of a 5 turn range.

Ya might of knocked some sense into the carb too, all that energy right into the combustion chamber, through the intake, and Bam. She'll run better.....:warning:

:warning: :thumbsup:

It hurt but at least its good now.

I don't know if this is helpful or not but my Holley 650 double pumper (4150 HP) that I had on my Gen 1 350 had a 65 power valve stock. I ended up running a 75 power valve which dumped some extra fuel in sooner... and that helped to get rid of the flat spot I had when accelerating coming off idle. Sometimes it's hard to tell if you lean or rich when it stumbles but on mine the larger power valve did the trick. Good luck with the tuning :thumbsup:

Thanks Dale - I'm going by the basic rule power valve = .5 or manifold vacuum which I'm only getting 10 inches, 11 if it's perfect. I have stock in 4.5, 5.0, 5.5, and 6.5. :D It has 5.5's in it now.

For the off-idle flat spot the pump linkage adjustment, squirter size, and pump cams are what I use fine tune. I'm hoping it's in the ballpark and I can start fine tuning when the weather improves.

Hopefully it's good, the boot still contacts the pipe but it's not compressed against it like the other was and I switched to MSD's "racing" boot which is labeled high-temp. We shall see. :warning:

Scott, you are going through exactly the same things that I'm going through on my car, so I love this thread!!

I'm not an experienced carb tuner guy and after purchasing a Holley 4150 DP from Patrick at Pro Systems I'm into all sorts of tuning territory I've never been to before.

I installed a wideband O2 sensor which really helped get a hand on some things like the power valve choice. When you are driving the car, you can actually see when the power valve opens by watching the gauge!! The carb shipped with a 5.5 PV incorrectly, which I've bumped up to a 7.5, and I changed out the idle air bleeds a couple times as well to get rid of a pig rich idle -- so I feel your pain :bang:

Keep on working at it!! :thankyou: