Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 550108)

With one guy lying, and the other guy swearing to it.....

Originally Posted by intocarss (Post 550089)

We been using that term "he ran out of talent" and "he had it under control right up until he lost it" for 20+ years.

It's funny reading this tonight because the guy pitted next to us crashed, we asked what happen? He said "I just ran out of talent while trying to make that pass"

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 550108)

With one guy lying, and the other guy swearing to it.....

Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 550116)

Keep fueling the fire gramps :beavis: :lol:

Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 550091)

Thanks for clarifying Brian.



What, I don't get a handicap for narrower track width, narrower tires, and sub par suspension? OK fine. Tell you what Cheese Ball........ If I knock down something in between 2:00 & 2:01.9 in a couple of weeks the nick name Cheese Ball is gonna grow legs to your neck. :unibrow:

Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 550144)

don't use your so called handicap for an excuss. Its your choice to be fast or not.

"FIGHT"

Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 550162)

I'd have to say at this point my downfall is front shocks. Single adjustable QA-1's just don't cut the muster and even though I finally got the front to stick better I can still feel a bit of bounce. Hopefully in a couple of months we can get the chicane deal and the front coil overs installed.

Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 550083)

Geez, what a knitting club over-analysis of something. :sieg:

Mary Pozzi has been using that phrase for years in this community and she probably heard it from someone who'd been using it for umpteen years prior to that.

If you don't have talent, then there's nothing to worry about.

If you do have talent, don't run out of it while your buddies are around and/or while the GoPro is running. :goggles:

Brian -- nice times on street tires. Looks like you got some work to do, Gaetano. :mock:

Originally Posted by intocarss (Post 550089)

We been using that term "he ran out of talent" and "he had it under control right up until he lost it" for 20+ years.

It's funny reading this tonight because the guy pitted next to us crashed, we asked what happen? He said "I just ran out of talent while trying to make that pass"

Originally Posted by Damn True (Post 550090)

It's fairly common parlance amongst racers. In that context it isn't meant as an insult. It's a means of explaining in simplest terms that at the absolute limit sometimes stuff happens that one simply is unable to compensate for. "Stuff" can be mechanical, or driver error and it happens to everyone. Schumacher ran out of talent once in a while, Senna once too often. Certainly doesn't make them lesser drivers.

That said, HPDE drivers should never be that close to the edge of the envelope of either the ability of themselves or the car.

Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 550173)

I ran out of talent at nearly every event I attended. That's how you learn the weaknesses of your car and driving skills. As you gain experience and confidence as a driver, you continue to find faults with your car as you gain speed. As you fix those faults, then it's back on you as a driver to find the line in the sand again.

Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 550173)

I ran out of talent at nearly every event I attended. That's how you learn the weaknesses of your car and driving skills. As you gain experience and confidence as a driver, you continue to find faults with your car as you gain speed. As you fix those faults, then it's back on you as a driver to find the line in the sand again.