2nd Chance Camaro 2.0 - Holley Terminator X


2019 04-11 Update - Holley Terminator X & Sheet Metal Intake

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I think I need to rename this thread to project never done.

So I finally have decided to update the car to EFI and I wanted something a little different but it had to be already tested by other people not me. No longer have the desire to be the first to create something.

I thought I was just going to talk to the guys at Holley for advise but the soon changed to me pulling out my credit card and ordering a bunch of parts.


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This big dawg can hunt!

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I’m curious to hear your impressions of the Holley unit. I have the Fitech equivalent (same style intake and throttle body) and the IAC noise is wearing on me. It works fairly well otherwise, but the sound alone may drive me to change.

Sheetmetal intakes make alot of racket. Cheap ones will hammer on the back wall and are worse. Look cool, but I personally would not run one on one of my cars.

Let’s cross our fingers and see if I can survive.


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Nice looking new hardware you’ve got there.

2nd Chance Camaro 2.0 - Fixing an Oil Leak
2019 06-26 Update - Fixing an Oil Leak

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Trying to bring this thread back up to date as I have been doing a bunch of work on the 70. Still having fun and happy to have the car.

The plan is to put a flat hood on the car and possible the 3 Light RS Conversion header panel that Scott Mock made me years ago.

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Before I started taking the car apart I needed to fix one of the oil leaks.

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So bye bye to this sensor.

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Plan to convert the washer bottle to an overflow tank.

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for now the plan is to just swap it out to see if the leak stops.
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2nd Chance Camaro 2.0 - Atomic Transmission 4L60E
2019 06-26 Update - Atomic Transmission 4L60E

Finally pulling the trigger and going EFI and 4l60e

Picked up a new case from the guys over at Atomic Transmission

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Dropped it off at Pro-Tek Powder Coating and then returned it to Atomic and now I have a brand new trans ready to install.

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2nd Chance Camaro 2.0 - Redoing the AAW Wire Harness & Interior
2019 06-26 Update - Redoing the AAW Wire Harness & Interior

Moving on to the inside of the car.

The plan is to remove the dash and redo the harness and remove the wires that are
no longer needed. Wrap Everything in Tech-Flex extreme wrap and just clean things up a bit.

Out with the custom built center console that Kenny built. Which will soon be wrapped in suede.

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Seats are back out

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not sure why I haven't taken the door bar out as it would be so much easier.

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Out with the tank and soon to be going to it's new home.

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Bye Bye Intake & Carb

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Test fitting the new Intake.

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well this is going to be close

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more parts

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When Mackenzie and I were visiting Kevin & Kelle at V8 Speed & Resto Shop we saw these bad ass fender
covers that they were using on customer cars.

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Some of you may have noticed the belt was run incorrectly so I figure I would fix it.

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All better now

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Looking forward to installing this.

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Initially the plan to run just an air filter as I still have no clue if I want to run an intake tube.

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We are going to need to space the crossbar just a little bit.

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I am getting really good at taking this car apart.

Exhaust coming out again.

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headers also

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back in the shed.

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Time to take the dash out and this is going to be fun and fairly easy.

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Time to pull out the towels as the WOOL carpet itches.

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I have a pretty cool idea for the duct work based off of the lower dash.

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Next Up the Dash Pad and Steering Column

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Twenty Minutes later the dash is removed.

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Next Up I plan to clean up the harness and thin things down a bit.

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Since I have friends at Pro-Tek Powder Coating I plan to have this bracket powder coated.

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I have found To-Do lists help keep me on schedule.

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This will be step one as it is no longer needed.

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When I started removing the harness I made sure to mark everything and take a bunch of pictures for reference.

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Column is fully removed and will be going to it's new home soon.

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More parts for the next phase of the car.

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Very nice work Marty,great detail:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Food for thought on the air cleaner. Now you're sucking in hot radiator air, with an intake you'll be sucking in cooler air.

Hardest workin’ man on lat-g?

:D

Sweet!

Good job Marty!!

Agree 100%

I have a crazy idea in my head of running the tube down and having an air box built under the nose of the car.

I've seen a few builds like that too. I don't care for that design myself because I still feel like thats the hottest air blowing over the entire tube to heat soak it vs. a normal setup where it runs to the right side or left side so just part of the tube gets some of the radiator air. I'd also be concerned with water when driving with it low like that.

The air box I liked the most was the one DSE did on Dale Jr's second get where they ran it into the wiper cowl. Pressurized clean cool air. His air box had a bunch of holes in it though so it wasn't functional like that though.

Backwards?
 

Can you run the intake backwards and put the filter in the cowl?

Standard & RS header panel combination & use either set of turn signal openings as landing spots for ducting that's wrapped w/heat barrier?

Agree on the intake tube versus just slapping a filter on it. For me, it's aesthetics. Too many really great installations have been ruined by simply putting a filter on the front of the throttle body.

I like your idea, Marty, but pulling in water would be my concern. I dig Scot's idea. DSE did a great job with Tim's intake for his Camaro by going into the lower front corner and putting holes in the lower valence.

Can you tell me more about the harness wrap you chose? I'm planning to use a weave for the new battery cables I'm running. I just haven't decided on which brand or style.

Also, given all the changes you're making, are you happy you went down this path versus building it this way from the beginning?

Keep up the great work.

Hey Marty, your build is looking awesome, keep up the good work! I recently changed up my air filter setup and thought I'd share some details. The setup I was running brought the filter out along the top and just behind the radiator. When I had it tuned, they suggested I get the filter away from the hot air passing thru the radiator (makes sense). I bought a custom setup that puts the filter behind a cover above the driver's side marker light. There's no problem with the cold air intake other then, in my 68 Camaro, there's just simply not enough airflow coming thru to the engine. I love the setup I had built and plan to make mods to keep it but the airflow situation is definitely something to consider. I can tell a huge difference in how the car runs...so much so that I may have to have it re-tuned once I make the necessary changes. My plan is to put a louvered panel in the forward part of the driver inner fender. Hopefully this will allow the airflow needed without bringing in all the water and road debris. Anyway, just thought I'd pass that along fwiw...

Initially the filter will get the car going and running. I am not 100% on the idea's in my head so until my brain tells me to stop over thinking then I will work on it. Most likely over the winter as that is when I plan to do the flat hood and the 3 light conversion on the car.

So one of my largest customers sells wire and cable and years and I mean years ago I met the guys from Tech Flex. I have used it many times and it's really nice and it's easy to work with. I actually think Holley is using it on there harness for the Terminator.

After I sold the truck I new I wanted to build a 2nd Gen and I didn't want to go crazy on the build. I just wanted something that was different and I think I succeeded. More important I wanted something that I would have for years as I don't have the time or the money to do a full build again. So when I decided on the camaro I new people would always be coming out with cool new stuff since it's such a popular car.



I like that idea a lot. Originally I was going to use the RS light opening but I have these bad ass billet fog lights from Fesler that I am in love with. I also like what the Dutchboys did on the burgandy 2nd gen which is high on my list.

Thought about that however it just didn't look right.

Funny your car is one of my favorite builds. Maybe it's the color or possible could be that it'a an early 1st gen or it's just simple a cool build.

So I love your intake tube and I have looked at it many times and I am certain mine will look very similar just need to finalize where the air is going to come in. Once the car is running I may order Airaid's U-Build It Intake Tube (( https://www.summitracing.com/parts/aid-100-350 )) just to play around with it.

Thanks Marty. I've been looking at the Flex Tech offerings. I thought they looked good but just wasn't sure. I also didn't recognize the packing in the picture as their stuff.

Your car gives my inspiration. I think mine will be back down on the ground sometime next month, but I'm nowhere near done. I just want to drive in and upgrade it eventually.

Thank you for the kind words and I agree about wanting to get the car done and back on the road. However, I think I like the planning, build and toying with the car just as much as I do driving it. Funny the first real drive at home I wasn't sure I like the car after driving a new car. Then I realized it became more about what the car wasn't that I loved so much. Right before I took it apart I spent the night driving it around and it was one of those rare perfect nights where the Moon was shinning and it was so bright it made realize how cool it was driving a car that was so simple and I was blown away how nice it road with the last upgrade that I quickly fell in love with just cruising around and not even going far from home. I think that is when I realized i was going to do the EFI swap and then it morphed into where we are today.

I really love having a car that is so simple that I can work on it and when my daughters come out they can easily understand how it all works.

2nd Chance Camaro 2.0 - Cleaning Up the AAW Harness
2019 07-02 Update - Cleaning Up the AAW Harness


Okay now it's time for an actually update.

Reposting this pictures JIC we all forgot what the plan was.

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Remove this junction block as it is not needed and it has to go. It's as simple as cutting and joining them back together.

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I separated all of the wire so they all had there own Tech-Flex wrap and also shortened them as needed.

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Don't worry I twisted these together just so i could get the lengths correct.

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Man it sure would be nice if my table was a little bigger.

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Left side is finally separated

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Need to look at the wiring diagram to see where these wire go as the were not wired to anything in the car.

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Yes I have issue and one of them is working in a somewhat clean & organized environment.

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First set of wire wrapped in the Tech Flex loom.

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Over the years I have learned a few things. Twist Ties, Wire Nuts and a good pair of wire strippers make big jobs easier.

I use the twist ties to keep all of the wires together that terminate at a common plug and wire nut keep the harness from flopping around on your work bench while you are soldering.

I pretty sure I have had these blue wire nuts for 30 years.

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So I couldn't find my alligator clip thing for holding the wire so i found a new use for my vise grips.

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I staggered all of the unions so I didn't have all the bulk in the center of the harness.

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Everything is officially joined and resting on the floor.

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On to the fun part joining all of the wires and installing heat shrink on each union.

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Boy would it be nice to be working on a bench instead of the floor.

Need to fix this union.

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Starting to look a little better.

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Hours of work and this is all of the scrap I made

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Calling it a night and plan to wrap it later in the week

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2nd Chance Camaro 2.0 - DEI Sound Deadening
2019 06-25 Update - DEI Sound Deadening

Another, while I am here moment just happened.

Might as well add more sound deadening since the dash is already off.

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It's nice having an Eastwood store 30 minutes from my house. A quick trip an to get some more sound deadening and possible stop at Baskin Robins for an Ice Cream Cone.

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Good thing I save all of the boxes

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Having the right tools helps. Just kidding this is one job that only takes a few tools and it's actually fun to do.

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Here is a quick picture of the Tech Flex Sample kit.

2019 06-25 Tech Flex Kit

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This is the split loom for existing harness's

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I also ordered some Tessa Tape which is perfect of the engine bay wire harness.

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2nd Chance Camaro 2.0 - AAW Tech Flex Wrap

2019 07-03 Update - AAW Tech Flex Wrap

So I have had this little table in my garage for at least year and I decided to pull it out and see if I could use it
in front of my workbench and what do you know it worked perfect.

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okay close to perfect

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Moving on to wrapping the harness with Tech Flex.

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So before I wrapped up the main harness I slid a piece of heat shrink up the main section of the harness to hold it all together.

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A few of the wires are not being used but I wanted to save them and also isolate them from any potential issues so I heat shrink wrapped each cut end.

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Slowly but surely it is starting to look like a finished harness.

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Getting closer

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I also rerouted some of the section so that when I put the harness back in the car it lays exactly where
I would like it to lay.

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so close

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Once again all done for the night and now it's time to go for a ride.

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Wiring terrifies me... I want the clean result but get lost trying to keep up with so many runs in different directions...
Thank you for sharing!!! ....and thank you for the laughs when I was fast scrolling through the pics and saw the wire nuts....:confused59: (because I have actually seen them used in cars before...)

Jeff-

I agree with you that wiring is terrifying and it took me a little bit to jump into this one as I new it was going to be very time consuming.

Wire Nuts - way back in the 80's I can remember people using them on car stereo systems.

In my quest to work on the car I decided that I would have the lower dash bracket powder coated for no reason other then personal because it is not like anyone will ever see it.

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I also picked up some parts for the car from Midwest Hot Rods.

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Since the headers are off and these where cheap I would install these exhaust port covers.

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I need to make a few more holes so they would work.

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and here comes the fun part

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now this is a whole bunch of wires

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The brackets are back from Pro-Tek Powder Coating and they look way to nice.

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Moving on to installing the harness and hope all of my planning pays off.

I plan to run the harness over the top of the steering column and secure it safely to the column mount.

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so far so good

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Picked up some needed parts from the local AutoZone. I used the door edge guard on the edges of the
steering column framework as I felt they could be a wear point for the harness.

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Not sure why I always reverse the adell clamps but I just do and one day I will try to figure it out.

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Okay so one wire needed to get pulled from the wrap and thankfully it was an easy fix.

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Harness is in.

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I even plugged in the cluster to make sure it worked. It did !!!

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Calling it a night once again.

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