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Hummer ECM
The H3 might be an E67 ECM but the 2007 H2 is an E38 and had a conventional mechanical fan (with a thermostatic clutch).
The H3 might have a PWM controlled clutch fan like the Trailblazer etc but it doesn't have a PWM speed controlled electric fan. Quote:
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stand alone controller testing
Full speed over-ride input for AC, manual fan switch etc but not enough inputs on this controller to accept an AC pressure signal and a temperature sensor. Maybe the next version. 8-)
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E40, E38 and E67 have ability to control PWM fan or dual discrete or ECM controlled engine driven fan output. All use AC pressure, oil temp, IAT, trans temp as well as coolant to control fan output. Can not mix and match fan driver type - must pick one.
Difference between discrete and PWM is you only have on or off with discrete - which is set to 50% and 100% output from fan cal. PWM drives the motor at whatever the percentage is based on the inputs. If using the discrete outputs with dual electric, I prefer to set them as parallel / series control rather than have each fan driven by output. That way on 50%, you are driving both fans @ 50% rather than one @ 100%. I hate listening to noisy fan(s) masking sound of engine - exception being when in track usage - where you NEED the fan output. Dave BTW - reason E40 & E67 were used in TBSS and H3 is vehicle communication was still Class 2 while Powertrain was CAN - E40 & E67 can handle both (E38 is CAN only). |
dual electric parallel/series
I too prefer to use the three relay parallel/series control on two fans (where both fans are run together low speed or high speed but never individually) but you need to be careful what fans you use for this. Some fan motors don't work well at half voltage (get close to or drop below motor stall speed/torque). Also some fans won't be fuse protected in that configuration (you can stop the blade and fail the motor without blowing the fuse). If you are going to run the series/parallel configuration the easiest is to just use fans that are run that way from the factory (plenty of GM examples to choose from between Camaros, Corvettes, CK trucks etc.).
BTW - if you are running one fan you can also have two speeds with most GM PCM,s/ECMs using a two speed fan relay. Volvo has one that takes two inputs and switches a single fan from low to high speed. Volvo Cooling Fan 2 Speed Relay, Volvo OE part numbers (used in lots of Volvos so cheap at the junk yard):
Kaehler also manufactures a part that is similiar to the Volvo Cooling Fan Relay. The part number is:
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ECT = 60% EOT = 40% TOT = 35% IAT = 0% Result will be fans driven at 60%. You can access fan tables with HPT or EFILive. Don't make mistake in assuming max fan % is only ~90% - so you should raise to 100%. PWM fan controllers have max output at some level <100% (depending on controller). Raising will NOT increase fan output, but can damage fan controller. BTW- 280 is well within temp limits of synthetic oil, so will present no problems. Dave |
If you decide to run the Corvette fan module & control the fan from the ECM, I have the module connectors. $55 shipped.
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Speed based fan enable
Dave,
Might not be speed based fan control in the E38 or E67 (I haven't looked at all the code or all the OS's that exist for all of those ECM's to be able to make an across the board statement like that, one way or the other) but plenty of other earlier GM systems did have speed based control criteria. The controllers used with the Gen III GM V8 engines ("Warren PCMs") all had speed based fan control criteria available in the code and most of the vehicles had it enabled. PSS Quote:
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PWM too high
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Not saying people should raise the PWM duty cycle over what ever setting than fan is expecting to see but how would this damage the controller? It wouldn't cause it to operate at higher current. The PWM duty cycle doesn't directly control fan speed - it is a fan speed request signal to the internal BLDC motor controller inside the fan. Also the PWM signal is just a communications level signal - it isn't driving any current into the system itself. Just wondering. |
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