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patoke 05-11-2014 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 549612)
Ron --- When you have a chance -- You are welcome to tear me a new you know what with comments on my driving... etc (if you've watched the videos). Others may learn from my mistakes and poor judgement. And to me - that's what it's all about. Charley has already destroyed any ego I had.

Greg, watch this video. It's obviously a much faster car than yours but look at his lines and then compare to yours. You are leaving a lot of track unused on many of the corner exits. You should be getting out to the curb/rumble strip most every corner. You could pick up the throttle much sooner if you used more of the track:gitrdun:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhHKQmHKzdA

The Superlite SLC, which is what Mike is driving in this video, is a pretty amazing machine. He is turning mid 1:40's here in endurance race trim with 480 hp, I believe. Our new Superlite LMP1 should be able to turn sub 1:40's at T-hill. The pucker factor going into turn one is going to be intense when turning that fast of a lap!!!

Flash68 05-11-2014 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 550109)
Thanks for just crushing my dreams of ever getting near a 06 !! IF you can run that time I never will get close! UGH.... Slicks or no slicks...


Oh stop it. You're right on the cusp with your sh!tty braking 245 car!

You're a heck of a sandbagger Weld. :mock:

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Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 550173)
I ran out of talent at nearly every event I attended.

It's good to see you have not stopped that trend in life. :gitrdun:

GregWeld 05-11-2014 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by patoke (Post 550229)
Greg, watch this video. It's obviously a much faster car than yours but look at his lines and then compare to yours. You are leaving a lot of track unused on many of the corner exits. You should be getting out to the curb/rumble strip most every corner. You could pick up the throttle much sooner if you used more of the track:gitrdun:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhHKQmHKzdA

The Superlite SLC, which is what Mike is driving in this video, is a pretty amazing machine. He is turning mid 1:40's here in endurance race trim with 480 hp, I believe. Our new Superlite LMP1 should be able to turn sub 1:40's at T-hill. The pucker factor going into turn one is going to be intense when turning that fast of a lap!!!




This is where I got my lines from -- 'cause I can't keep up with Charley to watch his and he doesn't own a video camera... LOL







patoke 05-12-2014 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 550233)
This is where I got my lines from -- 'cause I can't keep up with Charley to watch his and he doesn't own a video camera... LOL







Dave is an excellent guy to try and copy lines from! You can see how he uses the entire track. That video would have been even better if he did one lap with the engine noise so you could see how early he gets in the throttle and how late he brakes. The spec miata's are fantastic cars to teach you to become a faster, smoother driver because they handle well but have NO power (120hp or less), yet they can still run fast laps.

GregWeld 05-12-2014 08:08 AM

Pat ---


I'm showing this because IN MY MIND -- I still don't understand the "later turn in" concept. I'm going to have to be behind the wheel and try it to truly understand it. I see people doing it but have always thought "their line sucks". Yet you can often watch them pull away... although I manage to usually reel them in a turn or two later... so then think they're strategy was just "lucky" rather than good.


I'm willing to learn and to try... and part of that comes from Ron Sutton getting my cars squared away.

Ordinarily -- I know about cars and how they work. Lord knows I've built enough of them! But I am the first to admit that I know NOTHING about car handling or how to make them better or different etc. Thus my inclusion of Ron into the mix! And there the proof is in the pudding -- from a 2.20 to a 2.08 and less input from me in the process! Made it way more fun and felt way better.

I'm now a firm believer in getting the car dialed in -- which will allow me to adjust my driving - rather than just "getting thru it".

GregWeld 05-12-2014 08:16 AM

Just another quick "story".


I was 3 days into Bondurant Formula Mazda (open wheel) driving school --- and suddenly there's a CORVETTE in front of me! Odd -- okay -- even odder when I realize the guy is driving over every apex and he has one arm out the window pointing down to the apex when we go over them!

A couple laps of that (and I'm driving my ass off to keep up with the stupid one armed Corvette driver!) and he pulls off ---- and another lap and he's asking me to "come in".

I get "schooled" in "HITTING THE APEXS".... because it appeared that I was just getting near them --- often being a foot wide.... and me thinking that I'd hit them... NO!!! I need to hit them! And a foot wide was unacceptable... and shown on the white board that the foot miss here might have me miss the exit by a foot and I'd be off track. Okay --- from that point on I HIT every apex! It did help the room on the exit.

I know I'm not carrying enough speed when I have lots of room on exit -- and when I watch the video --- I've left entire towns between me and the exit. That's a "BALLS" issue.... apparently mine are quite small.

As Ron dials in the grip and braking on the old girl --- I will try to find a bit more manhood. And a better line should be the result.

Vince@Meanstreets 05-12-2014 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld;

I'm now a firm believer in getting the car dialed in -- which will allow me to adjust my driving - rather than just "getting thru it".

:thumbsup:

patoke 05-12-2014 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 550269)
Just another quick "story".


I was 3 days into Bondurant Formula Mazda (open wheel) driving school --- and suddenly there's a CORVETTE in front of me! Odd -- okay -- even odder when I realize the guy is driving over every apex and he has one arm out the window pointing down to the apex when we go over them!

A couple laps of that (and I'm driving my ass off to keep up with the stupid one armed Corvette driver!) and he pulls off ---- and another lap and he's asking me to "come in".

I get "schooled" in "HITTING THE APEXS".... because it appeared that I was just getting near them --- often being a foot wide.... and me thinking that I'd hit them... NO!!! I need to hit them! And a foot wide was unacceptable... and shown on the white board that the foot miss here might have me miss the exit by a foot and I'd be off track. Okay --- from that point on I HIT every apex! It did help the room on the exit.

I know I'm not carrying enough speed when I have lots of room on exit -- and when I watch the video --- I've left entire towns between me and the exit. That's a "BALLS" issue.... apparently mine are quite small.

As Ron dials in the grip and braking on the old girl --- I will try to find a bit more manhood. And a better line should be the result.

More grip and better brakes directly correlate to bigger balls!!! I'm not kidding either. I am sure you feel much more confident driving the Lotus versus the Mustang because of the fact that is has more grip and much better brakes. Being so light helps a bunch as well.

You have some good lap times and you are only using 50 -75% of the track on exit in some turns!! Think about how fast your times will be with more grip, better brakes, and when you use the whole track. :trophy-1302:

GregWeld 05-12-2014 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by patoke (Post 550280)
More grip and better brakes directly correlate to bigger balls!!! I'm not kidding either. I am sure you feel much more confident driving the Lotus versus the Mustang because of the fact that is has more grip and much better brakes. Being so light helps a bunch as well.

You have some good lap times and you are only using 50 -75% of the track on exit in some turns!! Think about how fast your times will be with more grip, better brakes, and when you use the whole track. :trophy-1302:





I'm scared already!



LOL

intocarss 05-12-2014 02:17 PM

Here's a video about Willow


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