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Stuart Adams 02-18-2013 05:41 PM

Laurie, thanks for the great info. Concealed in a casino is ok or is that a gray area also? Thanks.

Sieg 02-18-2013 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 96z28ss (Post 465639)
I think in Oregon when they pull you over and run your plate they already know if you have a CCP. thats what a cop told me.

I believe that's the case, but the few times I've been pulled over I've advised the officer that I'm carrying and have a permit.

I've had a permit in Oregon since '84 and carry frequently and have never had an incident with LEO's, property, or business owners. But I do my best to conceal my handgun with proper clothing. What people don't know doesn't hurt them applies in this situation.

Open carry in Oregon's "outback" has never been an issue and legal for as long as I can remember. Most natives assume locals are armed, primarily to protect themselves from Cougar, Bear, and now Wolves. Simply put, the issues come from metropolitan immigrants, usually well educated except when it comes to a State Law they don't know or agree with. :bang:

Spiffav8 02-18-2013 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 465661)
I believe that's the case, but the few times I've been pulled over I've advised the officer that I'm carrying and have a permit.

I've had a permit in Oregon since '84 and carry frequently and have never had an incident with LEO's, property, or business owners. But I do my best to conceal my handgun with proper clothing. What people don't know doesn't hurt them applies in this situation.

Open carry in Oregon's "outback" has never been an issue and legal for as long as I can remember. Most natives assume locals are armed, primarily to protect themselves from Cougar, Bear, and now Wolves. Simply put, the issues come from metropolitan immigrants, usually well educated except when it comes to a State Law they don't know or agree with. :bang:

Cougars are a real danger. Especially at some of those 'outback' bars! Last thing you want to get cornered by.

MrsSpiffAv8 02-18-2013 06:38 PM

Not agreeing with the law...That IS the main culprit. Good comment.

Carrying in casinos is definately frowned upon. Keep your eyes peeled to any signage that is posted at the entry doors or in the parking garage, ususally by the elevators. Again, if carrying concealed, don't display any imprint or make it obvious and what they dont see.....(wink wink)

They might just ask you to put it in your car or they might offer you a safe box in the security office. I would kindly refuse both options and go someplace else.

Spiffav8 02-18-2013 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MrsSpiffAv8 (Post 465675)
Not agreeing with the law...That IS the main culprit. .


I don't agree with you most of the time. Whatcha gonna do about it? :poke:

camcojb 02-18-2013 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Spiffav8 (Post 465677)
I don't agree with you most of the time. Whatcha gonna do about it? :poke:

brave man....... :peepwall:

Sieg 02-18-2013 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Spiffav8 (Post 465674)
Cougars are a real danger. Especially at some of those 'outback' bars! Last thing you want to get cornered by.

So true, I'd much rather wake up with a hungry wounded Mountain Lion......They smell better and much less chance of wound infection. :D

Tony_SS 02-19-2013 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by MrsSpiffAv8 (Post 465618)
In Nevada...I would show my CCW as a courtesy...but it is not required. Also, on new gun purchases, a blue card or registration card comes with it. But you do NOT need to carry this at all times. Only your CCW and your ID.

People are just either ignorant of the laws or its not an area of interest to them so they never do any research.

Kind of like our laws now that everyone is all up in arms about. They freak out about what they don't know and yet NEVER take the time to educate themselves until its too late or the wool is sooooo far pulled over their eyes they will never get it removed.

Laurie, thanks for sharing.

I find the above true in most cases, and particularly with the police in general around here. Maybe they are ignorant or maybe they don't care. I do think our town has a good force. Even if they have a retired military tank, at least they aren't roaming the streets in it. :warning: My brother in law is a cop, and he's the one telling me that federal law trumps state law. I had to remind him of the 10th amendment. :rules: I think any officer should be required to be educated on the laws they are supposed to be enforcing. I'll go a step further and suggest that officers should be more like firefighters and remain in the station until they are called upon. :idea: But I digress.

It's one of the reasons I got a Utah permit, because I really did not want my CCW permit to be tied with my drivers license. What does driving have to do with carrying a firearm anyway? Therefor, I would could keep any CCW info on a need to know basis if pulled over. I believe we have the castle law here in MO that states my vehicle, like my home is my property. MO residents can transport and keep a gun in the car as long as its concealed. No permit required.

MrsSpiffAv8 02-20-2013 03:16 AM

For NEVADA...

NRS 200.120  “Justifiable homicide” defined; no duty to retreat under certain circumstances.

1.  Justifiable homicide is the killing of a human being in necessary self-defense, or in defense of habitation, property or person, against one who manifestly intends or endeavors, by violence or surprise, to commit a felony, or against any person or persons who manifestly intend and endeavor, in a violent, riotous, tumultuous or surreptitious manner, to enter the habitation of another for the purpose of assaulting or offering personal violence to any person dwelling or being therein.

2.  A person is not required to retreat before using deadly force as provided in subsection 1 if the person:

(a) Is not the original aggressor;

(b) Has a right to be present at the location where deadly force is used; and

(c) Is not actively engaged in conduct in furtherance of criminal activity at the time deadly force is used.

GregWeld 02-20-2013 03:49 AM

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as the old saying goes....



I'd rather be judged by 12.... than carried by 6


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