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Al Moreno 02-14-2015 04:33 PM

I love seeing updates on this project. Mario looks like your starting to see some light!

Lenie 02-14-2015 09:27 PM

Hooty Hoooo! Mario that's a work of art. Can't wait to see it together and sitting down on those pretty wheels. Nice job Da vinci!!!

Jay Hilliard 02-15-2015 08:36 AM

Top notch Mario! Perfection is one small step at a time.

RECOVERY ROOM 02-15-2015 06:10 PM

Taking the time makes it all worth it in the end

comp-spec 02-16-2015 04:39 PM

Ridler

Matt@BOS 02-17-2015 11:36 AM

I caught a connecting flight out of Chicago a few days ago. It didn't look like "going outside weather," my guess is that Mario has been busy and should be done with body work in a week. :lol:

preston 02-18-2015 07:26 AM

>@ $80 an hour"

At $80 an hour my car already cost me a million dollars.
Good thing I enjoy it.

DOOM 02-18-2015 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 594646)
Drip rails? On a Ridler car? Even my race car has them shaved.... LOL



People can never fathom why these cars cost so much to build.... yet want perfection everywhere... and moan about seeing a "million dollar" car and make statements about "how could it cost that much"? I always just laugh. The hours and hours - days and weeks it takes to achieve perfection. You're lucky Mario that you can do these things yourself. When Rudy and I were doing his Camaro and we'd work all day... at the end of the day I'd look at him and say - "okay, that's two guys @ 8 hours..... so 16 hours of labor today @ $80 an hour" and we didn't get that much done!


The car is going to be spectacular Mario!!

Well put Greg! I now fully understand why it cost so much for "HIGH END" body and paint. I just had a conversation this morning with Rodger from Iron Works . We talked about this very subject. The amount of detail you have to attend to is incredible , every line ,every corner ,every piece has to be tended to . The more detail, the more work, and thats where the money comes in. I just finished fitting the front and back window moldings on my car. I spent 16 hours and I'll use Gregs hourly rate 16 hours x $80.00 per hour (two full 8 hour Sundays) fitting these moldings so there PERFECT. $1200.00 to fit moldings WTF!!! If Troy or anyone would of told me that before I did it myself I would of laughed my azz off are you kidding me!. I've been keeping track of my hours and where my car sits at this point I have close to $12000.00 not including the first round of fill n blocking Troy did $5000.00 ! $17000.00 and still more detail work to complete. Not one coat of primer on the car yet. Bottom line is when you see these RS , RingBrothers, Dutchboys, etc,you can fully understand why these cars look the way they do the owners payed for perfection and it didn't come cheap.

spode 02-18-2015 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DOOM (Post 595295)
Well put Greg! I now fully understand why it cost so much for "HIGH END" body and paint. I just had a conversation this morning with Rodger from Iron Works . We talked about this very subject. The amount of detail you have to attend to is incredible , every line ,every corner ,every piece has to be tended to . The more detail, the more work, and thats where the money comes in. I just finished fitting the front and back window moldings on my car. I spent 16 hours and I'll use Gregs hourly rate 16 hours x $80.00 per hour (two full 8 hour Sundays) fitting these moldings so there PERFECT. $1200.00 to fit moldings WTF!!! If Troy or anyone would of told me that before I did it myself I would of laughed my azz off are you kidding me!. I've been keeping track of my hours and where my car sits at this point I have close to $12000.00 not including the first round of fill n blocking Troy did $5000.00 ! $17000.00 and still more detail work to complete. Not one coat of primer on the car yet. Bottom line is when you see these RS , RingBrothers, Dutchboys, etc,you can fully understand why these cars look the way they do the owners payed for perfection and it didn't come cheap.

Your car is looking great and nice job on those moldings!

syborg tt 02-18-2015 01:03 PM

Car is looking great & I can't wait to see it in person.

waynieZ 02-18-2015 01:10 PM

I love it Mario, its going to look killer!

Musclerodz 02-18-2015 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DOOM (Post 595295)
Well put Greg! I now fully understand why it cost so much for "HIGH END" body and paint. I just had a conversation this morning with Rodger from Iron Works . We talked about this very subject. The amount of detail you have to attend to is incredible , every line ,every corner ,every piece has to be tended to . The more detail, the more work, and thats where the money comes in. I just finished fitting the front and back window moldings on my car. I spent 16 hours and I'll use Gregs hourly rate 16 hours x $80.00 per hour (two full 8 hour Sundays) fitting these moldings so there PERFECT. $1200.00 to fit moldings WTF!!! If Troy or anyone would of told me that before I did it myself I would of laughed my azz off are you kidding me!. I've been keeping track of my hours and where my car sits at this point I have close to $12000.00 not including the first round of fill n blocking Troy did $5000.00 ! $17000.00 and still more detail work to complete. Not one coat of primer on the car yet. Bottom line is when you see these RS , RingBrothers, Dutchboys, etc,you can fully understand why these cars look the way they do the owners payed for perfection and it didn't come cheap.

Next time someone complains on hours, I am pointing them to this thread. Even after I spend the hours doing it myself i still look back and say no way it took that amount of time.

GregWeld 02-18-2015 01:26 PM

What I love to hear at car shows....


"WOW! Really nice hot rod!! Must of cost you 10 grand for that paint job"!!! I nod... and smile.... and think to myself -- try 4 times that.

syborg tt 02-18-2015 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 595324)
What I love to hear at car shows....


"WOW! Really nice hot rod!! Must of cost you 10 grand for that paint job"!!! I nod... and smile.... and think to myself -- try 4 times that.

Try building an s10 and have people tell you they could have built the entire truck exactly like mine for $20,000 dollars.

I even had a shop owner say he could duplicate my truck exactly for 20 grand I told him I would give him an additional 20 grand in cash if he could. He gave me his Shop phone number and told me the bet was on and I have never heard from the guy.

96z28ss 02-19-2015 10:28 AM

I'm one of those guys that never would of thought paint was so expensive.
Having gone thru it now, and learning all the steps involved to make a show quality paint job, when I hear $40-50k for body and paint, I'll just be like "yep".

GregWeld 02-19-2015 05:07 PM

Well -- and just because a lot of people are reading these things -- I'll add that "paint" is subjective.... like how much paint?? Painting the block? The transmission? The chassis? Does your paint job include gapping or is that someone else doing that? Are we painting the engine compartment show quality or just blacking it out?

On little hot rods --- my chassis is every bit as nice as the body... and that included all of that being bodyworked to perfection... and the jambs etc are just as perfect... and the master cylinders are painted body color and bodyworked...

Obviously the less you want perfect.... the less labor it takes. But people fail to really look at all the details of these show cars -- and then equate that to what they're talking about money wise. I've seen engine bays with incredible paint and detail... and I think WOW! OMG...

waynieZ 02-19-2015 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 96z28ss (Post 595460)
When I hear $40-50k for body and paint, I'll just be like "yep".

Sort of send a shiver up your spine doesn't it! At least we understand why.

DOOM 02-20-2015 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 595504)
Well -- and just because a lot of people are reading these things -- I'll add that "paint" is subjective.... like how much paint?? Painting the block? The transmission? The chassis? Does your paint job include gapping or is that someone else doing that? Are we painting the engine compartment show quality or just blacking it out?

On little hot rods --- my chassis is every bit as nice as the body... and that included all of that being bodyworked to perfection... and the jambs etc are just as perfect... and the master cylinders are painted body color and bodyworked...

Obviously the less you want perfect.... the less labor it takes. But people fail to really look at all the details of these show cars -- and then equate that to what they're talking about money wise. I've seen engine bays with incredible paint and detail... and I think WOW! OMG...

I have to say when you first told me what Gwens Brizio was going to cost for paint and body I thought WOW your getting the shaft on that deal there's nothing to that car! But I could never be more wrong I can tell you that. And as you look at the detail the car speaks for itself,and again you paid for that detail. When I picked my car up from Troy and he gave me the time line of when he needed it back (four months) I really believed I had a extra month to play with,thinking I would blow right through it no problem.:snapout: I will never look at these high end builds again and think, whats the big deal thats for sure. I was one of those guys your talking about Greg .:twak:

WSSix 02-20-2015 06:51 AM

You're doing great work, Mario. Keep it up!

GregWeld 02-20-2015 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Musclerodz (Post 595321)
Next time someone complains on hours, I am pointing them to this thread. Even after I spend the hours doing it myself i still look back and say no way it took that amount of time.



That's where people don't get it... they think you just run a DA over everything and by lunch time it's ready to go into the booth.

Al Moreno 02-20-2015 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 595558)
That's where people don't get it... they think you just run a DA over everything and by lunch time it's ready to go into the booth.


Wait what....... you mean thats not how it works?!?!

HEEP 02-20-2015 12:40 PM

Weld, have you never seen that show called OverHaulin? Kind of like that show where they build a house in a week.:peepwall:

GregWeld 02-20-2015 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Moreno (Post 595592)
Wait what....... you mean thats not how it works?!?!



It does if you're at Earl Scheib!!! LOL





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Originally Posted by HEEP (Post 595631)
Weld, have you never seen that show called OverHaulin? Kind of like that show where they build a house in a week.:peepwall:




Funny --- here's the calculation on that show though..... there's probably 8 or 9 people working 8 hour shifts round the clock for 2 shifts or 16 hours a day (you don't see that part) - 7 days - so the total time spent on those heeps is about 1000 hours.... My guess is there could be even more people than that if you calc the outside vendors hours... and if you've seen those cars in person (in the past - don't know about now since they kinda quit taking them around to shows) -- I'd be pissed if they took my car!! Okay - it's way more car than the folks would/could get on their own -- but these ain't SEMA builds that's for sure.

96z28ss 02-20-2015 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 595661)
I'd be pissed if they took my car!! Okay - it's way more car than the folks would/could get on their own -- but these ain't SEMA builds that's for sure.

Well technically they are SEMA builds. They build one live at every SEMA.
:bitchslap: :lol:

fleet 02-21-2015 05:28 AM

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It does if you're at Earl Scheib!!! LOL


Scheib track star...can't un-see that.

:wow:

Roadster Shop 02-21-2015 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by syborg tt (Post 595326)
Try building an s10

Really? Nobody is going to touch that comment????

DOOM 05-26-2015 03:54 PM

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Finally put on the first round of polyester !!:willy:First time using it not to bad. Now more sanding!!:bang: Hopefully it goes a little faster this time around.

GregWeld 05-26-2015 03:58 PM

Stink block it - or it doesn't count!

ironworks 05-26-2015 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DOOM (Post 606624)
Finally put on the first round of polyester !!:willy:First time using it not to bad. Now more sanding!!:bang: Hopefully it goes a little faster this time around.


Dude are you getting paid by the hour or what? Come on Columbus is in a less then 2 months. Don't let Bob beat you.

streetbird 05-26-2015 05:46 PM

What polyester do you use?

tubbed69 05-26-2015 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ironworks (Post 606626)
Dude are you getting paid by the hour or what? Come on Columbus is in a less then 2 months. Don't let Bob beat you.

Bolt the wheels on Mario Columbus is coming like Roger said.

b757jetdr 05-26-2015 05:51 PM

Looking great Mario!
Your car is going to be amazing, can not wait to see it done!! Now get back to work!!:lmao:

bulldog19 05-27-2015 03:39 AM

Its probably painted and assembled and he is driving it to work everyday. He's just messing with everyone.

fleet 05-27-2015 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by bulldog19 (Post 606657)
Its probably painted and assembled and he is driving it to work everyday.

Yep.

He's a man of simple tastes. He's okay with the police escort he requires to now be scheduled at their convenience, not his.


:snapout:

syborg tt 05-27-2015 06:25 AM

Very nice

Josh@Ridetech 05-27-2015 06:33 AM

Very nice!

waynieZ 05-27-2015 09:47 AM

Nice Mario , keep the updates coming.

extralight 05-27-2015 12:37 PM

Congrats! Getting very close to paint!

96z28ss 05-27-2015 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bulldog19 (Post 606657)
Its probably painted and assembled and he is driving it to work everyday. He's just messing with everyone.

Well, that's true he does hang out with Marty.
He probably already drove the car and sold it, he is just trying to stretch the build thread out till he gets his next project.

syborg tt 05-27-2015 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 96z28ss (Post 606711)
Well, that's true he does hang out with Marty.
He probably already drove the car and sold it, he is just trying to stretch the build thread out till he gets his next project.

Ouch I suppose I should do some updates on 2nd chance !!!


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