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sorry to put my two cents in , but buyer beware , the ebay 25 dollar bulbs are no where near Hids , they are only the bluish bulbs that you used to see on every riced out civic , and from what i have seen , they arent even a big improvemant as far as lighting goes , my wifes last three cars has had H.i.ds from the factory , and believe me they are far far superior to any bulb only upgrade.... move up a little and buy at least on of the knock off kits for around 150 ......

Nope. With the proper relays, they'll be much brighter than stock. Stock headlights are much brighter than "stock" with relays..


$150-$70= $80. Still buys alot of bulbs.

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Im in ,, Tell me the proper steps , and what items to purchase , i will also try them....

After a little research and looking at chats in a couple of forums I went with the kit Musclerodz for a couple of reasons. I purchased mine even before V8TV posted that they were using them and then showed the installation.
Real guy on the phone (Mike answered question on the phone, emails, and in forums) - his business, his reputation has a positive vibe in the forums, and I felt I was utilizing a 'car-guy'. Finally - if you look at the scope of this membership/community they, on average, are trying to put the best/right components into use - in many cases leading edge. I've already tried the cheaper route, several times and have had to put out even more money to do the right thing. I'll probably do it a few more times because we all have budgets/limits and its tough to know when its enough. I was just walking through the vendors at Goodguys in Charlotte and there where several headlight opportunities for much less -- it all just helped me feel very good about my path... As soon as I can get the car assembled and the lights in I'll post how things turn out.

https://lateral-g.net/members/harrod/

Quite honestly, I don't see where the debate is...

All the housings are glass lenses and I would assume plastic bodies. No matter who's kit you buy. They're probably all from the same mold. One probably done here in the US, one probably knocked off in China.

Therefore, the only difference is in the bulbs. While some are true HID's and some apparently aren't, that appears to be the only difference to me.

Relays are a couple bucks each. The extra expense in this case seems to be unjustified.


While I do appreciate customer service when it comes to complex parts or things that I may not be able to fix myself, these aren't in that class. If the bulb goes out, you get a new bulb. If the lens cracks, you get a new one. There's no need for talking on the phone..

While I am impressed with M.R. and the time he takes here and on other forums, I have to be practicle and save money where I can. This is one of those cases where I can save and still end up with a similar product.

I'll do what I like, thanks...

Couple questions:

1. Who said I want my 37+ year old car to look "like the high dollor luxury cars"? And how does a set of headlights exactly accomplish that?

2. "aparently you have never see a true hid kit" Does it count if I've seen one?

3. "remember you get what you pay for, and if you dont feel like buying from one of our SPONSER!!!!! the people who make this for posible by paying thier monthy sponser fees, thats fine." So I don't have to kiss the sponsor's asses, or do I? Last time I checked, that wasn't a requirement of membership....


But perhaps what sums it up best is that you claim I sound totally ignorant yet "i understand what your saying".

BTW, capitol letters start sentances, and its "you're", a conjunction of "you" and "are"... Must not be alot of mirros in the Jay household...

never mind...
remove your head from your a** and grow up

You're sorry, yet you came back to do it again............


Yeah.... :rolleyes:


Please, please buy a spell check..

Got everything in tonight. Will start assembly hopefully next week!

cant wait to see your H4 headlight conversion, good luck.lol