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XLexusTech 11-14-2008 08:32 AM

Can we Add torque Arm to the Poll?
I am on the fence on one side is the G Link on the other a Torque arm. I would be interested in see the TA added to the mix

Marcus SC&C 11-14-2008 01:08 PM

As mentioned the G Bar and G Link both work great with existing mini tub kits.

There is a Mopar E body G-Bar. While it doesn`t offer all of the adjustability of the G-Link it can be run with an adj. rate rear swaybar and is an impressive performer in it`s own right.

Torque arm systems can work quite well. Their overall format precludes them from having much antisquat and limits instant center location and SVSA length though which can make them one trick ponys. They can still hook hard in a straight line but it general requires the rest of the car to have a more hardcore drag set up than a comparable adj. 4 link car to run the same short times. These are generalizations of course but it`s one reason they aren`t more popular. One nice thing about them is it`s almost hard to build a bad one where it`s very easy to build a crappy 4 link, just ask the OEs... :P Mark SC&C

zerotofear 11-16-2008 05:18 PM

Our background is in the stockcar industry, I am a big fan of truckarms, two long torque arms that use the weight of the car to create forward bite. A trackbar is used as locating device, and adjusted up or down to control body roll, forward bite, and effective sping rate. This rear suspension is extremely simple, affordable, versatile, but more than anything it is the most competition proven system availible.

http://www.metalcrafttoolsskillcente.../112707033.jpg
We use full floater rears as you see the truck arms are mounted solid to the rear.

http://www.metalcrafttoolsskillcente.../110707013.jpg
The truck arms angle back from a center crossmember to the rear end.

http://www.metalcrafttoolsskillcente.../082808015.jpg
The coil-overs are mounted on this car infront of the rearend

http://www.metalcrafttoolsskillcente.../102708005.jpg
We have mounted a D-M Products Rear anti-roll bar on this car for drag racing challenges.
The quick clips allow us to disconnect the rear bar for road courses.

http://www.metalcrafttoolsskillcente.../090308008.jpg
The crossmember has adjustable slugs left and right and these can be used to align or mis-align the rear depending on the handling characteristic you want.

mazspeed 11-16-2008 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XLexusTech (Post 176753)
Can we Add torque Arm to the Poll?
I am on the fence on one side is the G Link on the other a Torque arm. I would be interested in see the TA added to the mix

The G link is much better in the performance aspect. DSE is the way to go if you can swing it.
I drove a camaro about 18 moths ago with a truck arm rear from Hotrods to hell, and it was the biggest POS. It rode fine but it's not a performance rear by any means.

skatinjay27 11-16-2008 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mazspeed (Post 177290)
The G link is much better in the performance aspect. DSE is the way to go if you can swing it.
I drove a camaro about 18 moths ago with a truck arm rear from Hotrods to hell, and it was the biggest POS. It rode fine but it's not a performance rear by any means.

truck arms rear suspension is not the same as a tq arm. 3rd and 4th gens use tq arm setups. its a tq arm from the tranny crossmember to the rear and uses a panhard to keep the rear center and uses two lower contol arms like typical 4 links.

zerotofear 11-17-2008 04:49 AM

Not a performance rear? This system has won as many races in the USA as any other system, even the fact that it is almost boob proof some boobs can screw up anything. Truck arms are in fact are torque arms solidly mounted in the rear the arms transfer energy by absorbing the initial shock under acceleration, under most systems this shock is transfered to the tires causing tire spin. Under braking the arms transfer the braking torque into the chassis pulling the car downward to the track.




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Stuart Adams 11-17-2008 06:25 AM

DSE 4 link.

Silver69Camaro 11-17-2008 09:11 AM

Morrison 3-link direct-fit rear clip. But I'm biased :D

Seriously though, a three link that allows you to keep your rear seat AND greatly improves torsional stiffness. Or a proven triangulated 4-bar that requires no floorpan cutting. Easier to install than a set of reproduction rear frame rails. Definetely an option to consider...

http://www.artmorrison.com/gallery/v...maro-FrontClip

mazspeed 11-17-2008 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skatinjay27 (Post 177297)
truck arms rear suspension is not the same as a tq arm. 3rd and 4th gens use tq arm setups. its a tq arm from the tranny crossmember to the rear and uses a panhard to keep the rear center and uses two lower contol arms like typical 4 links.

Yes very true. I don't know much about the tq arm though.

z4me69 11-17-2008 09:01 PM

went through the same decision between the g bar and q link . am lucky enough to have a couple of friends with both set ups. i went with dse hands down the best thing i ever did to my car


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