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skatinjay27 05-09-2009 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2 (Post 211127)
That's why it doesn't pay to "shoot to wound".. if you have to shoot then do it to kill. If you don't have to kill then don't shoot.

yep... i think thats just something you have to realize when you choose to carry a gun, you have the power to kill someone and if your now willing to accept that responsibility then dont carry.
i agree 100 percent shoot to kill of you must shoot.

"dead men tell no tales"

jcal87 05-31-2009 12:13 AM

did this pass?

Mick Mc 06-01-2009 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowtieracing (Post 210501)
I love facts as well... And simple fact is ; more guns you have , more shootings you have. It has nothing to do how many people live in california. I guess there little bit more people in Europe.. and no problems with guns at all. That is a fact.



I love facts

90+% of the time shooters are within 7 feet of each other.
90+% of the time the shooter misses (within 7 feet of each other)
Most shooters know each other and 50% of the time are related.

After you fire that 9mm at night, you are going to be blinded for at least 30 seconds. 40caliber has less flash. If you don't fire a gun regularly the sound alone will stop most people as their mind tries to process whats going on and when and where and how to react (am I the shooter or the shootee, do I run or walk, am I the aggressor or am I scared out of my wits)

If you think you're going to fire a hand gun down a dark hallway, at night, in your unders, and kill an intruder, think again.
Buy a shotgun. If you point a shotgun down the hall and pull the trigger, you have a much better change of hitting your something and maybe even your target.
The universal sound that everyone, and I mean everyone knows, is the sound of a shotgun cocking, that sound alone will scare most people away, intruders, your girlfriends ex-boyfriend, even dogs.

In Washington DC it was illegal for gun ownership, and they had the highest rate of gun deaths in the country.

Chris Rock said if bullets were $5000 a piece there would be alot less shootings.
Have you noticed the shortage of bullets lately, and the price, think about that...



Mick

jcal87 06-01-2009 11:14 AM

Good ole boy
 
Joe Horn from Texas kills two intruders.


Spiffav8 06-01-2009 11:38 AM

Might sound odd coming from me but Mr. Horn was not justified in this shooting. Though I believe he was eventually cleared of the shooting, he put him self in harms way by leaving the safety of his home. He was right to call 911 and report as much info as he could. It was a VERY short time from the moment he pulled the trigger to when the police ordered him to get down on the ground. Even then he was uncooperative saying no at first. It sounds like Mr. Horn was looking for a reason to shoot these guys to me. Just not very smart about it. Hey if you're going to screw up....at least make a good tape.

jcal87 06-01-2009 11:48 AM

Well lets put it this way somones gonna steel your car i confront them with a gun a warn them "if you move your dead" and they move im shooting because i dont know what thier intentions are they could be reaching for a gun or running at me would you see it justified? Iam a firm believer that this sent a strong message to robbers that if you try to steel you might just lose your life.

Spiffav8 06-01-2009 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jcal87 (Post 215717)
Well lets put it this way somones gonna steel your car i confront them with a gun a warn them "if you move your dead" and they move im shooting because i dont know what thier intentions are they could be reaching for a gun or running at me would you see it justified? Iam a firm believer that this sent a strong message to robbers that if you try to steel you might just lose your life.

While I would LOVE to have you as a neighbor, I would rather keep my friend and risk the lose of the car. I know you would do everything you could to help the police catch them. Calling 911 and if necessary following them in your car while reporting to the police where they are going. I would hate to see you risk your life over a car. Even worse I would hate to live next to your widow and kids. (like I want to mow your lawn the rest of my life)

Now if you are walking back from the mail box and they are driving off in my car and try to run you over as you yell at them....pull out your 45 and fill the windshield with holes. At that point it's self defense.

:cheers: So when are you buying the house next door?

Spiffav8 06-01-2009 12:33 PM

I re-read my post and realized I didn't answer your question.

If you confronted a person (or persons) who where stealing my car and ended up shooting them would you be justified? In my opinion...NO. Reason being is you put your self in danger and you are not on your property. Now if you catch a person (or persons) stealing your car and you confront them would you be justified? In my opinion....YES. Reason being is they put you in a position where you where forced to defend your self and or family.

If you did see someone stealing my car, I would hope that you would do whatever you safely can to help. Number 1....be a good witness!!! Get all the info you can. Description of the thief's, what they are wearing, hair color, height, race, etc. License plate, make and model of all cars involved...especially mine. Listen to the the 911 operator and answer all their questions. Know what to tell the 911 operator to get things moving faster....best thing you can tell them is that the guy has a gun. Yell out the window at the thief's..."I've called the cops" kind of thing. Yeah it sounds goofy but if you know you've been spotted you'll run. (ever get busted T-Ping the neighbors house as a kid?)

Last lil bit....Let's say you witness a man force my wife into my house or you witness someone break into my home and you know my wife sleeps during the day. You grab your gun, enter my home and shoot the guy who is beating my wife or worse. Are you justified? Yes and I hope you kill the guy ten times over. However...just remember to grab your cell and dial 911 if you have time. If nothing else the call will be recorded.

Spiffav8 06-01-2009 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mick Mc (Post 215699)
I love facts

90+% of the time shooters are within 7 feet of each other.
90+% of the time the shooter misses (within 7 feet of each other)
Most shooters know each other and 50% of the time are related.

Funny you mention that. A very good friend of mine is an officer that shot and killed a gang member during a jewelry store robbery. He was less than 7 feet from the guy and fired all 14 rounds from his Glock in less than a second. 8 of them hit the guy. Talk about an adrenalin rush! He was so focused on what was happening he didn't even notice the officer 3 feet to his right fire 12 rounds from his AR.

jcal87 06-01-2009 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Spiffav8 (Post 215733)
I re-read my post and realized I didn't answer your question.

If you confronted a person (or persons) who where stealing my car and ended up shooting them would you be justified? In my opinion...NO. Reason being is you put your self in danger and you are not on your property. Now if you catch a person (or persons) stealing your car and you confront them would you be justified? In my opinion....YES. Reason being is they put you in a position where you where forced to defend your self and or family.

If you did see someone stealing my car, I would hope that you would do whatever you safely can to help. Number 1....be a good witness!!! Get all the info you can. Description of the thief's, what they are wearing, hair color, height, race, etc. License plate, make and model of all cars involved...especially mine. Listen to the the 911 operator and answer all their questions. Know what to tell the 911 operator to get things moving faster....best thing you can tell them is that the guy has a gun. Yell out the window at the thief's..."I've called the cops" kind of thing. Yeah it sounds goofy but if you know you've been spotted you'll run. (ever get busted T-Ping the neighbors house as a kid?)

Last lil bit....Let's say you witness a man force my wife into my house or you witness someone break into my home and you know my wife sleeps during the day. You grab your gun, enter my home and shoot the guy who is beating my wife or worse. Are you justified? Yes and I hope you kill the guy ten times over. However...just remember to grab your cell and dial 911 if you have time. If nothing else the call will be recorded.

Yeah true but hey who would really miss them...I think i just have to much Texan and military in me :lol:


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