CARBUFF had a Martz in his last car, he didn't buy another one.

I hope you dont rule us out because of looks. If you will be going to Joliet Goodguys, Indianaplolis Goodguys, Fortworth Goodguys, or Charlotte Goodguys, stop by our booth and we will see if you can sit shot gun for one of the laps on the auto-cross. We will also be vending the events so you can see the subframe on display. :thumbsup:

Heidt's #14, has Heidt's changed their frame cross section size anywhere during the production run? The car I looked at seemed to have a smaller cross section than the Heidt's subframes I see advertised today.

Long time since I have posted.I decided to go with a subframe that uses the Vette C6 components. As far as i know this locks me into either Art Morrison or Detroit Speed. I appreciate any input people have with these subs or if they know of other subs that use the C5/C6 brakes (since I already bought them).
Again, I am going with 4th gen F-body LS1 with a T56. I want to be able to use the stock oil pan if I can with a vintage air setup using the Kwik bracket.

I am looking for header fitment also. The DSE headers look great but are big money and I've heard of better header fitment with the AME sub.

I am interested in any and all opinions

I had an AME subframe and ran the VA compressor on the lower passenger side using a VA bracket and the factory F body accessory drive. Stock F body pan too. Some pics etc of my installation are here:

http://ls1tech.com/forums/conversion...roblems-3.html

Don

I have an AME subframe, very nice piece and I do not recall any fitment issues with their subframe and AME headers. I do have a complaint which many others have encounted is the AME LS engine mount requires some modification to fit. It is a bit of a hassle considering the price of everything.

Why are you locked into those two if you want C6 stuff?

Jakes, Scott Mock and RS all use C6 spindles and Hubs. I believe Speedtech spindles will accept the C6 brakes.

I have an RS chassis under my car and the build quality is second to none. With a RS Camaro subframe you can run a 10 wide front wheel easy, it is set up for and LS, the suspension geometry would accommodate your current plans and provide for a competent car if you ever decide to go out on a track or run autox.

You could drive to their shop in a day to pick it up and that alone would be worth the trip. The shop itself is a destination if you are into cars and fabrication.:wow:

If it sounds like I am trying to sell you on RS, I am.:thumbsup: Not because I get anything out of it. Because as a customer I know they treated me very well and continue to support their product when I e-mail or call.

Phil, Jeremy and their dad are all good people and from my experience the type of people you want to do business with. No promises made that weren't kept. No BS just straight communication and follow through.

I'm not discounting anyone else's stuff all of the vendors seem to be making some quality products. Although I haven't dealt with Blake at Speedtech I have visited his shop and it is also clean, organized and apparently well run with some quality looking products being produced. I have one friend who took a botched project from another shop there and the Blake's crew did a great job fixing the mess within a promised window.

That's my personal experience for what it's worth.
:cheers:

http://roadstershop.com/suspension/1967-69-camaro/

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...psaf931ad2.jpg

Thanks for the Kudos Rob.

It has been a long time since I posted again because I have been concentrating my efforts on the LS1Tech site. For a full review of the build go to http://ls1tech.com/forums/conversion...8-camaro.html/ In summary I went with the Art Morrison subframe and used their headers as well. I also ran into interference with the motor mounts, but it was relatively easy to resolve by grinding on the mount. FOr the headers, I had to grind away some material from the passenger side lower control arm support to get adequate clearance but there seems to be plenty of meat there so I wasn't worried about affecting structural integrity. The last modification I had to make was with the mounts for the sway bar bushings. AME gives you collars to keep the sway bar from sliding side to side and the collars would not fit without grinding away some of the mounting surface. Again this was extra material anyway and won't affect structural integrity.
I was worried that the track width would be wider than stock, since I used to have a front tire clearance problem but it is actually slightly narrower and I now have no tire rub issues. The turning radius sucks but that is because it is for wider tires. I may remove the stops to get my turning radius back.
I like the way the car sits now, it is not too low which is something I was worried about.
I haven't really had a chance to push the car yet, so I will see how much better it handles.

A few pictures of the sub during mock up and final assembly