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pokey64 11-23-2011 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by frojoe (Post 380287)
You wouldn't happen to have any pics of full compression with frame-to-axletube clearance, would you?

Thanks anyways for those pics tho!

Ride height. I never took any from the side this summer...
http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/a.../IMG_78612.jpg

Clearnace with no gas tank and an empty trunk.
http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/a.../IMG_67462.jpg

http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/a.../IMG_67432.jpg

I haven't measured the clearance yet. I bulit my own exhaust pipes this spring. Tail pipes are on the list for this winter so I'm sure I'll be getting to know this area well.

69x22 11-23-2011 09:48 PM

If I had it to do over again, I would have went with the DSE rear suspensing. I have the same g-bar rear as Todd, 2000 miles, 1 autocross, 600 RWHP and small cracks in the same place. If you do run this set up, box it into your frame and tie it into the floor pan.

67XR7 11-23-2011 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rybar (Post 380214)
The kit can be ordered with the brackets to weld to your own rear end. The springs are too long for a super low ride height and the fact that the cross bar sits under the stock trunk floor makes them sit in a lower position vs the DSE which has the shock cross member and mounts the shocks higher up so you can still sit low and have the correct travel. Sorry I'm not a suspension engineer but that is the thought in my head. Here are pictures of the Alston G-Link as Todd stated it is different than the older G-bar/Prodigy bar.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...o_g-Bar_01.jpg
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...o_g-Bar_02.jpg
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...o_g-Bar_03.jpg
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...o_g-Bar_04.jpg

wow it does look like you get the same amount of lower mounting holes either way. the pictures i looked at showed about 3 different positions with a fab 9 and only 1 with the bolt on lower arms. must be old pics.

Vince@Meanstreets 11-24-2011 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokey64 (Post 380301)
Ride height. I never took any from the side this summer...
http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/a.../IMG_78612.jpg

Clearnace with no gas tank and an empty trunk.
http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/a.../IMG_67462.jpg

http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/a.../IMG_67432.jpg

I haven't measured the clearance yet. I bulit my own exhaust pipes this spring. Tail pipes are on the list for this winter so I'm sure I'll be getting to know this area well.

what are the weights on your current springs Ed? Might come down a bunch when you get the tank and stuff in. You can go to a shorter spring, it will put your adjuster nut mid shock.

Vegas69 11-24-2011 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69x22 (Post 380319)
If I had it to do over again, I would have went with the DSE rear suspensing. I have the same g-bar rear as Todd, 2000 miles, 1 autocross, 600 RWHP and small cracks in the same place. If you do run this set up, box it into your frame and tie it into the floor pan.

Damn, your rails must have been weak or that babies digging. The new g link is way worse in my opinion. It's missing the front cross member in the cradle that we enjoy. One thing I found after going to a 10" spring with my G Bar, you need to be careful at full extension. The design of the alston shock will allow the spring collar to fall off the shock mount with no spring tension. I safety wired my spring collar to my shock mount. This will only be needed if you go fairly low with a 10" spring. No idea on the G Link but all you need to do is jack the car up and let the rear end droop to check.

Found a photo that shows what I'm tallking about. Notice the shock collar sitting on top of the spring. This is exaggerated but there will be about .25-.375 gap depending on ride height.
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a...1969/010-2.jpg

Ron in SoCal 11-24-2011 08:48 AM

^ My Strange (brand) shocks do the same thing. Freaked me out the first time I jacked up the car. Good idea w the safety wire Todd...

pokey64 11-24-2011 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 380329)
what are the weights on your current springs Ed? Might come down a bunch when you get the tank and stuff in. You can go to a shorter spring, it will put your adjuster nut mid shock.

Vince,
They're 12 200s now. I took a quick cell pic this morning of ride height with tank. I still need to throw some weight in the trunk to account for a sub box and full spare that Beth wants. We put around 300 miles on it this summer so it should be settled. I would like to get the tire tucked a bit so I'll probably be looking at shorter springs.

Todd,
Good info on what to watch on shorter Springs.

http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/a...DEyNC5qcGc.jpg

Vegas69 11-24-2011 09:54 AM

I actually safety wired my spring to the shock mount. That keeps the shock collar up against the shock mount. I fastened both twice.

DETON8R 11-24-2011 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69x22 (Post 380319)
If I had it to do over again, I would have went with the DSE rear suspensing. I have the same g-bar rear as Todd, 2000 miles, 1 autocross, 600 RWHP and small cracks in the same place. If you do run this set up, box it into your frame and tie it into the floor pan.

Got photos of those cracks? Or do you have a better description where they showed up? Was it for a mini-tub application, or was it in the factory sheet metal/frame rail?

I'm installing a G-link for a mini-tub application and I'd like to see where I might need re-enforcements welded in. I will be running a roll bar and supports into the trunk to spread the load around, so I should have a little bit more strength into the rear end section of the car than a regular bolt-in/weld-in installation as Chassisworks recommends.

frojoe 11-24-2011 09:59 AM

pokey64... are those 17" rims? Look forward to any measurements you can grab when you start to "intimately familiarize yourself" with the area while making tailpipes! :lol:


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