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preston 02-08-2012 12:49 PM

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But this isn't the thread to make that boring Camaro comment... the OP is doing a Camaro and asked for opinions and guidance on that specific car. Right?
I agree, and apologize.

ironworks 02-08-2012 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 394257)
It's sure got a nice aise.

It better since the only thing stock is the side vents or gills.

redfire69 02-08-2012 02:51 PM

Dave's Camaro is a work of art. The way you've reworked the rear is awesome! :hail:

tyoneal 02-09-2012 12:46 AM

There is a lot of nice work on this. Do you have some additional pictures?

Thanks,

Ty

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Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 394143)
Stuart- The problem that I have always seen with first gen Camaro's is that they have a taper @ the rear.. & is a problem with the tires when you lower the car.. Here is another car 67 that we are doing that we removed the taper on the lower rear section of the car.. It still required for us to rework the whole lower section of the tail panel.. I plan on taking this approach with a 69 here pretty soon .. The front also has a nasty taper to it.. but that is boat load of work to remove.. I plan am on keeping finding methods of stretches that are suttle..

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/...n/IMG_2011.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/...n/IMG_2012.jpg



I agree with you Todd! That is why I plan on stretching BB II from qtrs door skins & fenders..


tyoneal 02-09-2012 01:03 AM

Works of Art!

Very Nice.

Ty

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Originally Posted by ironworks (Post 394164)
You guys are killing me posting up all this early stage work of the quarters on Dave's 69. Quite a few of you have seen Dave's camaro in person and it has come ALONG way from what you posting. So here.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...uly2011014.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...uly2011015.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ary2011032.jpg

I have another one we are working on currently and I will post pics when it is further along. Dave's camaro is pretty aggressive and the one we are currently doing is just as wide but along more refined. But It is way more work then what we did on James Shipka's OLC2 and Dave's car.


tyoneal 02-09-2012 01:26 AM

Yes, the OP (Me), was wanting to get some opinions and some discussion (Hopefully) on what is preferred from the people on this forum. The '69 is a unusual car as it was a 1 year only AND had the prominent styling cues as a final refinement of the Generation 1 Cars.

Since it does somewhat depend on the fender differences from the '67 and '68 car to differentiate itself from the two earlier years, how much change and what kind is acceptable to the 69 before it is visually corrupted where some of the people just hate it.

I guess I was looking for a way to Flare/stretch/replace the fenders and get the best of both worlds.

The Camaro's shown in the first post were deliberately shown as representations of both positions of thought.

I do like that the turning radius when lowered is nice and tight, AND you can get some wide ass tires under the front at the same time. That is the "Best of both Worlds", from a strictly utilitarian point of view.

Does the 69 really lose its lines when the bigger flares are put on there given that they are tons easier to do and probably a heck of a lot cheaper?

Thoughts?

I am also looking for the logical evolution of this car when transfered to a more aggressive track oriented use.

Has anyone really ever done a good job with those fake vents, in making them functional for brake cooling or differential/transmission cooling?

If so, who did the best job in your opinion?

Thanks,

Ty


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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 394228)
Absofvckingfutely.



I think he meant Bob Owens' 69 and Taz, the Gulf themed 67/68.



I for one agree with you on the above.

But this isn't the thread to make that boring Camaro comment... the OP is doing a Camaro and asked for opinions and guidance on that specific car. Right?


Payton King 02-09-2012 08:00 AM

This is going to sound completely off the wall
 
but you could do the widening at the top of the fenders and quaters like the Ring Bro's did on the Mustang at Sema.

You could also, not sure how it would look, add 4 inches in the ceneter of the car down the middle and have new front and back glass mader or use lexan.

ironworks 02-09-2012 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Payton King (Post 394605)
but you could do the widening at the top of the fenders and quaters like the Ring Bro's did on the Mustang at Sema.

You could also, not sure how it would look, add 4 inches in the ceneter of the car down the middle and have new front and back glass mader or use lexan.

widening a camaro down the middle would be a nightmare. Nothing would bolt up anymore. Subframe, rear suspension axle housing, ETC. Plus custom glass would cost a TON of money.

I thinking just widening the fender on top is alot different then the the RB mustang. The mustand can use that, but a 69 Camaro is going to look Goofy. JMHO

legend 02-09-2012 09:02 AM

you could take the car to a good patternmaking shop and get them to create a plug for fibreglass moulds of these widebody style fenders. Then when you damage them it'd be cheap to replace compaerd to all the work you'd have in steel fenders. I suppose you'd have to come up with something structural at the rear, but the ford puma did it this way

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Ford_Puma.jpg

standard fenders

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...RacingPuma.jpg

widebody fenders

You'd need someone with a good eye to get all the lines right. Is there a clay modelling college anywhere near, you could grab some students for a long weekend to work it out in styling clay.

Used to do a lot of clay modelling it's very quick to do but the final surfaces need lots of practice

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...D5KnEvObEuz2CG

this kind of thing but full size

Matt@BOS 02-09-2012 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ironworks (Post 394608)
widening a camaro down the middle would be a nightmare. Nothing would bolt up anymore. Subframe, rear suspension axle housing, ETC. Plus custom glass would cost a TON of money.

I thinking just widening the fender on top is alot different then the the RB mustang. The mustand can use that, but a 69 Camaro is going to look Goofy. JMHO

Agreed, Mustangs have a solid body line that runs the length of the car, whereas the line on the top of the fenders of Camaros disappears part way into the doors. Changing those lines on a Camaro would be tricky, and would change part of what people associate with Camaros. Maybe that is just me, after all, I'm a person that likes flares so long as the exaggerate a cars proportions, while retaining all of the hard lines on the original.

Matt


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