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Matt@BOS 01-06-2013 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 456114)
If you'd like to see a complete DISASTER of a twin turbo 1000+hp car try to compete...

Just watch the video of the LAMBO at OPTIMA OUSCI this year...

Greg, I think the problem was that the Lamborghini owner never went to Bondurant. ;)

Nick was faster in the Street Rodder '40 Ford.

I'm also of the opinion that twin turbos are a bad idea on a multi-purpose car. Josh Kalis' twin turbo Camaro is putting out 1000 horsepower, and he drives it on the street all the time, but he doesn't road race or autocross it. I think the real question is how much of a competitive nature you have. after you start attending events are you going to start making changes to try to place higher and turn in quicker times, or are you just going to have fun and not worry about wanting to get faster, or having a car that can't run more than 10 minutes at a time without overheating on the track?

makoshark 01-06-2013 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by irishlsxer (Post 454238)
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Here goes: As clearly as i can convey it, I'm looking for as close to stock ls3 manners as possible. I don't want any problems cruising around in anything from 40-100 degrees, even if it happens to be stop and go for hours. Opinions on the cooling aspect are welcomed as well..

1000hp is about as far away as you can get from a stock mannered ls3.

Are you just wanting bragging rights with the 1000hp goal?

irishlsxer 01-06-2013 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 456126)
:rofl: :thumbsup:



Those TT Gallardo's are only good for standing miles and 60-130 blasts. That's it.


well he sold the car for 90k. says he took a 50k bath on the deal, im sure that has nothing to do with the labor hours he put in. So your saying jcg or dse would've built me one exactly like it for way under 150? BS. No disrespect man, after all, guys like you and todd are the ones I was hoping to get opinions from, but READ WHAT I WROTE. I NEVER EFFING SAID I WAS TRYING TO ROAD RACE THE **** OUT OF A 1000hp car..

irishlsxer 01-06-2013 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by makoshark (Post 456142)
1000hp is about as far away as you can get from a stock mannered ls3.

Are you just wanting bragging rights with the 1000hp goal?

spot on.. pretty much exactly the deal. I would like to build a setup that we proved on paper makes 1000 dyno horse, and I would like to street race with some of the rich brats i know that have higher hp cars, and I would love to have that power at a standing mile events But 90% of the time Im only looking for 600-700 hp probably max, especially at any event where its going to get ridden hard.

Flash68 01-06-2013 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by irishlsxer (Post 456219)
well he sold the car for 90k. says he took a 50k bath on the deal, im sure that has nothing to do with the labor hours he put in. So your saying jcg or dse would've built me one exactly like it for way under 150? BS. No disrespect man, after all, guys like you and todd are the ones I was hoping to get opinions from, but READ WHAT I WROTE. I NEVER EFFING SAID I WAS TRYING TO ROAD RACE THE **** OUT OF A 1000hp car..

What are you talking about and who are you talking to? I think you are confused here.

I am laughing at Todd's statement -- not you -- Todd and I are friends.

Of course JCG or DSE will not build you a car like that for what Todd did. Todd did most of the work himself. Apples to oranges.

And I have no idea what you are talking about with your effing... road race... 1000hp comment... I was referring to Greg's comment about how well (or not well) that TTG did at Optima.

I am not against you here.

makoshark 01-06-2013 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by irishlsxer (Post 456220)
spot on.. pretty much exactly the deal. I would like to build a setup that we proved on paper makes 1000 dyno horse, and I would like to street race with some of the rich brats i know that have higher hp cars, and I would love to have that power at a standing mile events But 90% of the time Im only looking for 600-700 hp probably max, especially at any event where its going to get ridden hard.

Nitrous comes to mind with the exception of a standing mile run...street racing huh? I'm not sure I would want to take a chance of building a 1000hp motor to take a chance of the local PD confiscating the car. Huge loss there along with all the legal costs/time that would endure. Also, the motor costs would be only part of the equation. You also have to factor in a transmission, rear differential, drive shaft and suspension that could handle that amount of power. To put a package of that degree together, and do so correctly, could put you nearly half the cost of that $150,000 car you were speaking of.

irishlsxer 01-06-2013 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 456130)
Greg, I think the problem was that the Lamborghini owner never went to Bondurant. ;)

Nick was faster in the Street Rodder '40 Ford.

I'm also of the opinion that twin turbos are a bad idea on a multi-purpose car. Josh Kalis' twin turbo Camaro is putting out 1000 horsepower, and he drives it on the street all the time, but he doesn't road race or autocross it. I think the real question is how much of a competitive nature you have. after you start attending events are you going to start making changes to try to place higher and turn in quicker times, or are you just going to have fun and not worry about wanting to get faster, or having a car that can't run more than 10 minutes at a time without overheating on the track?

Hey matt, I was wondering what you thought about all this, you seem to be someone who didnt know much, but dove in headfirst and survived. You bring a good point about ones goals. Personally, It not like I'm trying to take on stielow or danny p or anything at the bigger events, and I'm not far enough along to really be able to even know how competitive im going to want to be after getting my feet wet at a few events. I'd like to say yes, I'll be tweaking to get better results, but for now it's hard to say until I actaully get to that point. Could just be fun in the end but I do like to comete. Time will tell. For now I just now I want to do something that is versitle enough to do a little bit of everything. And for the record, I dont, nor did I ever, have the illusion of road racing a 1000 car, twin turbos or otherwise.:beathorse

thanks for weighing in, love the camaro but I think I like the mustang even more. Cant wait to see it rolling.

Flash68 01-06-2013 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by irishlsxer (Post 456226)
And for the record, I dont, nor did I ever, have the illusion of road racing a 1000 car, twin turbos or otherwise.:beathorse

Who ever said you did?

irishlsxer 01-06-2013 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by makoshark (Post 456224)
Nitrous comes to mind with the exception of a standing mile run...street racing huh? I'm not sure I would want to take a chance of building a 1000hp motor to take a chance of the local PD confiscating the car. Huge loss there along with all the legal costs/time that would endure. Also, the motor costs would be only part of the equation. You also have to factor in a transmission, rear differential, drive shaft and suspension that could handle that amount of power. To put a package of that degree together, and do so correctly, could put you nearly half the cost of that $150,000 car you were speaking of.

agreed on the cost. We'll see. I wont claim I have more sense than money. I'd like to split is close to half n half. I am great at budgeting and have and I've been going over all this planning it for a good while. This is going to sound horrible and ridiclouly ricer, but I would probably only be roll racing. Even with a ls9 clutch stielow says hes maxing it out a 750hp or whatever his power number is...and that he wouldnt drag race his setup.. when you see the suspension components youre going to groan even more about the drag racing aspect. OF COURSE, ANY STREET RACING I DID WOULD BE IN MEXICO:thumbsup:

makoshark 01-06-2013 10:02 PM

No one here is trying to flame you, we are just trying to bring you into reality. I can be very frugal with my money as well, but there are some things you simply can't cut costs. Building a 1000hp motor is not something that can be done on a budget. I suppose you could build it with subpar parts, but its just gonna be a one-hit-wonder...One and done...Get my drift?


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