Sorry Steve, i had no idea. My point was only post best of both world's imho.

Can you tell me how quick it shifts ?

I would not recommend anything other than Twistmachine's set up. I did research all of the other products prior to my purchase; and the customer support, quality, and knowledge of relating components was of no comparison with the other brands. Steve was always willing to help when I was setting up my system.

That's alright. Hasn't hurt us a bit. As for shift time, it's irrelevant since the system lacks proper clutch integration, it needs to shift slow in order to avoid tripping over the clutch.

The modern torque converter, as a semi viscous coupling, is forgiving. With a mechatronic manual, the clutch is the challenge. It must be applied and released with finesse.

Thanks Bob!!!

As good as the new automatics are, I would go with a T56. I have a new CTS-V w/ the 6 spd auto, its fine for a that type of car but to me, it will never "feel" like a manual transmission car. The only other transmissions better are the F1 in a Ferrari Scuderia or the new double clutch systems in BMW, Ferrari ect. Even the E-gear in my Turbo Lamborghini is slow in comparision to the dual clutch trannies.

Lambo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IErRo6L-5bc
turbo Scud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKT8y...layer_embedded