Don't you hate when there is the same topic in two forums ( here vs. p-t)

No not really.

I've had the same topic in 4 diff forums at once.. just involves more cutting and pasting. :)

Readers Digest Version: the 58mph used in the DSE story is the exit speed of the car and not the average speed that we use in our normal testing.

The did it the same both times so the gain is still the gain.

Page 48 shows the data sets for the tests, but it's a bit hard to interpret. In future testing I am sure Kyle will test for average speed along with exit speed.

The VBOX stuff is uber accurate. I spoke with the head guy there and I am impressed with how it works and who uses this technology.

Oh no...the beginning of the end...The "U" word being used on Lateral-G...

(Just funnin' with ya, Steve...) :)

While the article says it is a test of the DSE rear suspension, the way I read the article it's comparing a stock suspension F/R to a complete DSE F/R suspension system, not just rear suspensions only. The tires/Wheels stayed the same. The first article was not very clear on what was done, but photos show stock springs as the "before" pics.

I agree measuring the top speed exiting the course is not as good a comparison as average speed through the course. Most airports have concrete surface which usually has better traction than asphalt, but often it is sloped in areas for dranage so a complex course would not be totally flat if it is a parking area. I'd imagine a runway or taxiway would be much flatter. I ran SCCA nationals at Salina KS, the course was in an aircraft parking area and it had flat and sloped areas, all concrete.

Steve,
Is this right? your test course is 420 ft, uses 6 cones spaced 70 ft apart, the timing lights are at the end cones?