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uxojerry 10-06-2013 06:59 PM

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This engine is $21.5k as depicted but is all aluminum. Ive seen other vendors doing iron blocks for less. I didnt say it was cheap, but it is not astronomical either.

GregWeld 10-06-2013 07:02 PM

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This engine is $21.5k as depicted but is all aluminum. Ive seen other vendors doing iron blocks for less. I didnt say it was cheap, but it is not astronomical either.



Oh yeah -- but you just forgot to add the aforementioned EFI.... Can't really compare carb motors to EFI.

uxojerry 10-06-2013 07:18 PM

Ok add $3k for the FAST 1.0 and 2nd TBI option.

GregWeld 10-06-2013 07:26 PM

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Ok add $3k for the FAST 1.0 and 2nd TBI option.


BTW -- I was just yanking your chain! But you know this group is going to hold everyones feet to the fire!

HAHAHAHAHA --- Okay -- that's MORE THAN THREE TIMES what I just spent for a LS3....

214Chevy 10-06-2013 07:31 PM

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You could order the drag pack motor with the 8 stack and still be $3k-$4k under the cost of the LS9 with all of the hardware. Either engine is available in aluminum.

Jerry, for the simple fact the LS9 is supercharged, of course a carbed or 8 stack will be cheaper. The supercharger is $7k alone. So, there's the difference right there.

GregWeld 10-06-2013 07:33 PM

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Jerry, for the simple fact the LS9 is supercharged, of course a carbed or 8 stack will be cheaper. The supercharger is $7k alone. So, there's the difference right there.




He's not going to win his case...... no matter how hard he's going to try.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA <laughing like that trucker dude on Ice Road Truckers>

uxojerry 10-06-2013 07:43 PM

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Your right Gregg, lol. Progress starts in baby steps!! Here is some real sacrilege as a C2 Corvette or any other Corvette model never had a W motor.

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I love following the high end C6 Corvette FI builds where they are hitting 1100rwhp+ and are forced to revert back to a modified Power Glide or Turbo 400 to handle all of the horsepower, lol. I shall not bring up the venerable Ford 9".

214Chevy 10-06-2013 07:45 PM

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He's not going to win his case...... no matter how hard he's going to try.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA <laughing like that trucker dude on Ice Road Truckers>

I know right GW. Also, The LS9 is packed with forged goodies in order to handle boost. Therefore, making it ultimately more expensive. A carbed motor that Jerry is harping about can be built with basic bottom to middle parts for N/A if someone wanted to save money.

214Chevy 10-06-2013 08:00 PM

Also, comparing EFI/supercharged motors to carbed-N/A motors is like comparing 3-piece wheels to cast wheels. Of course one is more expensive than the other. There's just no comparison in general. Will a carbed motor get the job done just like a cast wheel will...yes. Is it necessary to spend $12-$20k or more on an EFI or supercharged motor like it's necessary to spend $8k-$10k or more on 3-piece wheels...no. See where I'm going with the comparison thing?

preston 10-06-2013 08:15 PM

I'm going through this debate right now - Last build of my SBF I put on too big of heads and with low CR and a small cam I have classic low end sogginess. At this point in my life I think I would really appreciate a full on OEM programmed combination - With the twins, I am never lacking for all out power, but I want it to have GREAT throttle response and OEM manners rather than me programming it on an aftermarket EFI and guessing at a good combo. The two options are LS or Coyote, and the Coyote will just not fit (custom tube chassis).

But a Mustang like mine cannot have an LS motor...Tried it in my mind, couldn't do it. So when I get back to the engine I'm thinking of ponying up having Kaase or someone equivalent take my good parts and specify a killer top end combination but even with pro help programming it will never match OEM based EFI LS driveability and startup and mileage. I love the idea that with modern heads and cam technology and a sheet metal or ITB manifold, I can have something a little wonderful compared to the past, but its definitely not going to be as ea$y as the modern LS combos.

So I hate to agree with the argument, but brand heritage is the ONLY reason I don't go with an LS. Plus, I guess its a little bit more interesting when bench racing to have the old skool motor. And that Coyote makes good power, and winds up high, but...its still just a 5.0 too.


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