Originally Posted by chichirone (Post 536220)

Here is a pic of the Dynatech headers and DSE600 steering box. Plenty of clearance. Used DSE mounts. I'm pretty sure it is a 3* trans angle.

Here is a pic from underneath. I don't have a side view yet but they are tucked up pretty tight.

Originally Posted by Jay Hilliard (Post 536207)

Ultimate Headers may be another alternative. They are shorty style stainless headers. I believe several Lat-G members have used them on their builds. They have a pic on their website stating Mark Stielow is using them on his current project.

Originally Posted by rickpaw (Post 536370)

Jay, can you please take some close up shots of the motor mounts, and perhaps measure the distance from the block (not oil pan) to the sub frame cross member?

Originally Posted by fishface (Post 536059)

Blake, price is ok with me as long as I dont have to fight it. Any ideas if a tru-turn system causes any problems??

Originally Posted by OBeer-WAN-Kenobi (Post 536139)

:confused59: $900!

A house payment + property taxes for a month.

Why are headers so expensive? The only reason I can think of is the welding. That's crap though too because you don't get much of a discount (if any) if you by them unwelded. For the usually meager performance gains, headers seem to be the worst value out of anything you can bold on your engine besides dress-up pretty bits. Unfortunately, most manifolds won't work on a 1st gen so we are forced to buy headers.

If someone came up with a header design as that fits as nicely as those Speedtech ones appear to and put a reasonable price on them, they'd corner the market and make their money back in droves. Unfortunately, it seems that the manufacturers that have the best fitting units charge huge money for them and the ones that are more reasonably priced don't bother to make theirs fit any better which would put the more expensive ones out of the market. Makes no sense to me.

I'll stop ranting now.

Originally Posted by mikespeed95 (Post 536324)

Is it really just normal for these cars to all have the headers hanging down that low?

Originally Posted by OBeer-WAN-Kenobi (Post 535448)

I've been eyeing up the Texas Speed ones myself. I called them last week to try to get an installed picture but suposedly the guy who did the test fitting (and had is pix on his personal computer) was in Qatar or someplace. They were going to email him and ask for the pix but haven't gotten back to me yet. I'm going to give them another call this week and maybe you should too. If two of us are bugging them maybe they'll get the pictures.

On another note, can you have a local machine shop reface the flanges and clean them up so they are flat?

Originally Posted by fishface (Post 536059)

Blake, price is ok with me as long as I dont have to fight it. Any ideas if a tru-turn system causes any problems??

Originally Posted by Blake Foster (Post 536415)

You get what you pay for, the headman header for 169.00 what do they fit? even the Hooker comp 69 Camaro headers are a joke. it is like anything. if you want quality you have to pay for it. you could build your own stainless headers for about 2000.00 to 2500 depending on what material and how tight the chassis is 900 is a deal.
Not ripping on you but someone had to take the time to design the part and actually put it on a car to see if it fits, then do all the fixturing, all the test bends, throw away 5 length of stainless tube, readjust the jig. retest fit them. You see my point. And then your lucky if there is 25% margin in the part. So after you sell 50 sets you may have broken even on the part.
Last time I checked the idea was to make money, but also sell parts the WORK!!! there are so many parts I won't even sell regardless of price because they SUCK!
There Rant over lol