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Ron Sutton 03-06-2018 07:04 PM

Greg's 70 Mustang Track-Warrior Blueprint (without dimensions)

:bigun2:



http://www.pro-touring.com/attachmen...4&d=1520367054

Ron Sutton 03-06-2018 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 674065)
Ron

What about the Aero :y0!: tell us what you have planned. :popcorn2:

Starting in the front:
A. Sealed front nose with airflow ducted through radiator/heat exchanger & brake ducts

B. 4" Front splitter x 75" wide (supported from bumper panel)

C. Splitter to wheel opening bump flare, blending from splitter into 1/3 wickers on wheel openings.

D. Deep inner fender lip on back side of all fenders
* To reduce airflow into wheel wells

E. May, or may not, add side air extractor in fenders
* I need to package everything first

F. Smooth Hood / Max Surface area
* Inner bracing to maximize downforce
* Rounded nose (Ford style in hood removed)

G. Low angle, smooth top cowl hood scoop
* Ignore the silhouette drawing in the blueprint
* Hood will be smooth with 4" cowl scoop

H. Flush mount Lexan windshield

I. Smooth body (No door handles, emblems, etc

J. Ground Effects
* Rockers do NOT roll under
* Rockers are "boxed" to be flat on the sides
* This reduces airflow "roll under"
* 1.5" Wide Side Splitters full length of rockers
* Practically eliminates airflow under the rockers
* Creates small amount of downforce

K. Flush mount Lexan side windows with radiused B-Pillars to reduce airflow into cockpit
* NACA Duct in one side window for driver cooling
* Provides air for the FAST Cool Suit & Cool Air Helmet Blower

L. Full, smooth, belly pan from splitter to rear of car
* All removable with flat head Dzus fasteners
* 2 NACA ducts with hose to cool rear brakes
* Can run without certain panels for better cooling & ease of use
* Then run full panels when racing or running for optimum lap time

M. Functional, gentle roll diffuser with 4.5" strakes

N. Flush mount Lexan rear window

O. Rear "Kick Up" on Mustang tail light panel removed & straightened for cleaner airflow.
* Ignore the silhouette drawing in the blueprint
* No rear spoiler
* Top of rear deck is level / kick up removed

P. Dual Element Rear Wing
* Aggressive wing design = High Down Force / Medium Drag
* 13" Primary Wing
* 5.5" Secondary Wing
* 76" Wide
* 22 Angle settings with bolt hole change
* Changeable Wickers for tuning
* Rear Mount to Chassis
* Support Mount to Body

I may put some vortex generators on the trailing edge of the roof just to mess with people. Just kiddin'. The rear profile of this car is bitchin' & doesn't need VGs.

GregWeld 03-06-2018 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBasher (Post 674071)
Lotus X 4=🤔

I’ve seen you wheel OY on the edge and beyond. Do you feel like you ever drove the Lotus to 9/10ths and trusted the aero and grip?

No I never did -- I never liked the Lotus... it was boring and so much faster than all the stuff that was at a Shelby event - I could tool around at about 7/10ths and pass them.

I have done Mazda Star cars -- with big aero.... and know what it takes to drive them and make the aero work.

DBasher 03-06-2018 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Sutton (Post 674079)
Starting in the front:
A. Sealed front nose with airflow ducted through radiator/heat exchanger & brake ducts----Typical radiator opening or all clean air from down low?

B. 4" Front splitter x 75" wide (supported from bumper panel)

C. Splitter to wheel opening bump flare, blending from splitter into 1/3 wickers on wheel openings.

D. Deep inner fender lip on back side of all fenders
* To reduce airflow into wheel wells

E. May, or may not, add side air extractor in fenders
* I need to package everything first----I'd love to see this happen

F. Smooth Hood / Max Surface area----Rob, I told you so :action-smiley-027:
* Inner bracing to maximize downforce
* Rounded nose (Ford style in hood removed)

G. Low angle, smooth top cowl hood scoop
* Ignore the silhouette drawing in the blueprint
* Hood will be smooth with 4" cowl scoop

H. Flush mount Lexan windshield

I. Smooth body (No door handles, emblems, etc----How's a guy supposed to get in?

J. Ground Effects
* Rockers do NOT roll under
* Rockers are "boxed" to be flat on the sides
* This reduces airflow "roll under"
* 1.5" Wide Side Splitters full length of rockers----Any reason some splitters are curved and wider at the front and rear?
* Practically eliminates airflow under the rockers
* Creates small amount of downforce

K. Flush mount Lexan side windows with radiused B-Pillars to reduce airflow into cockpit
* NACA Duct in one side window for driver cooling
* Provides air for the FAST Cool Suit & Cool Air Helmet Blower

L. Full, smooth, belly pan from splitter to rear of car
* All removable with flat head Dzus fasteners
* 2 NACA ducts with hose to cool rear brakes----Curious to see where these get placed.
* Can run without certain panels for better cooling & ease of use
* Then run full panels when racing or running for optimum lap time

M. Functional, gentle roll diffuser with 4.5" strakes

N. Flush mount Lexan rear window

O. Rear "Kick Up" on Mustang tail light panel removed & straightened for cleaner airflow.
* Ignore the silhouette drawing in the blueprint
* No rear spoiler
* Top of rear deck is level / kick up removed

P. Dual Element Rear Wing
* Aggressive wing design = High Down Force / Medium Drag
* 13" Primary Wing
* 5.5" Secondary Wing
* 76" Wide
* 22 Angle settings with bolt hole change
* Changeable Wickers for tuning
* Rear Mount to Chassis
* Support Mount to Body

I may put some vortex generators on the trailing edge of the roof just to mess with people. Just kiddin'. The rear profile of this car is bitchin' & doesn't need VGs.

Looking forward to your aero thread coming to life. :flag2::thumbsup:

1965_SS 03-07-2018 12:43 PM

So bad ass!!!!!!
Following along..................

booah 03-07-2018 08:11 PM

My favourite page so far, having just built a front splitter and chin piece on my 70 Mach 1 for a 1/2 mile race here in Aus.

Watching with much interest.

Ummgawa 03-07-2018 08:34 PM

Following this one. Very cool.

Ron Sutton 03-08-2018 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBasher (Post 674082)
I. Smooth body (No door handles, emblems, etc----How's a guy supposed to get in?

J. Ground Effects
* Rockers do NOT roll under
* Rockers are "boxed" to be flat on the sides
* This reduces airflow "roll under"
* 1.5" Wide Side Splitters full length of rockers----Any reason some splitters are curved and wider at the front and rear?
* Practically eliminates airflow under the rockers
* Creates small amount of downforce

L. Full, smooth, belly pan from splitter to rear of car
* All removable with flat head Dzus fasteners
* 2 NACA ducts with hose to cool rear brakes----Curious to see where these get placed.
* Can run without certain panels for better cooling & ease of use
* Then run full panels when racing or running for optimum lap time


Hey Dan!

Answers:
I: There are no side windows. The door handle on the inside of the door ... the handle the driver uses to get out ... is easily accessible by reaching in the open window area.

J: I'm not clear what you're asking. Please restate the question.

L: The NACA Ducts will go in the belly pan, in front of the rear brake calipers (which are on the front side of the housing).

:cheers:


DBasher 03-08-2018 08:50 AM

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Ignoring the height at the front and rear of the splitter, notice how the width of the “board” changes? This is the only picture I have on my phone but I’ve seen quite a few that are set up wider at the ends and narrower in the middle.

I have a lot interest on the aero...if you plan on explaining the how’s and why’s as you go I can probably keep to myself....probably.

Ron Sutton 03-08-2018 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBasher (Post 674160)
Ignoring the height at the front and rear of the splitter, notice how the width of the “board” changes? This is the only picture I have on my phone but I’ve seen quite a few that are set up wider at the ends and narrower in the middle.

I have a lot interest on the aero...if you plan on explaining the how’s and why’s as you go I can probably keep to myself....probably.

Gotcha.

There is more turbulence at the wheel wells ... both front & rear. So the designer "probably" made them wider there to deal with that.

Or they may have made the middle narrower, simply for ease of driver & passenger egress. Hard to say for sure their reasoning.



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