great point , only one car is a winner .

" slinging **** fesler style " that should be his sign-in

felcher, why not just stop doing goodguys shows, stop spending money with them and create your own show circuit? that way you could bend the rules so you won every show. that way you could be the man, which is apparently the only thing that strokes your ego. you go on to say your car is perfect, this that the other thing, has Mercedes carpet, but was built on such a budget you could not afford 1500 dollar custom headers? how in a 100k plus build do you not have the money for headers? (maybe you over charge for interior/paint)or is it your talent only lends you to bolting items on? but oh shiit i forgot your Mercedes carpet and paint should of won the show.
you might as well have your wife fight your battles she does a better job.:lateral:
thats pretty funny posting a pic of someones car from sema,lol, you were digging deep for that one.
do you really want to go knocking someones work, are you sure your car/blaser is perfect? i don't think so, so slow down

what is this ?? Moparchat?
I left that site because of the hate and politics, now its popping up here
I'm kinda disappointing that people are slamming rides & people for the sake of a car show/trophy

on a side note its kinda like 1995 again where every car at a show is a camaro,
I would have liked to see more of a variety of cars make it to the 5, but I,m sure there was lots of killer and wild rides there.
jason

Just for the record you guys are the one stating my car is so perfect and the best of the best and I thank you for that. I have never once stated that I have the best car out there nor should I have won. My only problem is the top 5 cars were not in the show regardles if they were mine or not. Fit and Finish was key and the cars we brought out were pretty straight.

I stated that I had to follow the rules and so should have everyone else. You guys just keep going and going on what I am and what I think and I appreciate all of your input.

You guys start some stuff up here and cant handle me postiing a picture of your car with gaps that are no where near close. That is something that should have been caught way before paint.

I dont have a problem with you or anyone else on this site and my post was not to start a fight with the people of lateral-g it was to get the facts out about how the show was run and how the rules were bent...... for some reason you guys decided that you needed to start in on me. Its ok I can take it

I did not realize we were in a battle I better go get her......

Agreed. This thread is going downhill fast. If you guys want to have a hatefest, take it to PM's please.

no battle, just used it for reference

You guys start some stuff up here and cant handle me postiing a picture of your car with gaps that are no where near close. That is something that should have been caught way before paint.

oh i can handle it, thats why i said it was my car . at least it was only 1 gap .
and unlike your car it was not a stock body bolt together , that only ran on 6 cyl. all weekend !
see what you bring out in people, the worst .


d o n e with this thread ! lol

sorry , i am done . and i have plenty of PM's on my side

Not sure how it all got out of hand but that is the way it goes. I stated one thing that I did not like and got hammerd about it. I did not bag on anyones car nor talk down to any of them. I stated a few facts about the way the show went and now I am the bad guy. Enough is enough and I am sorry if I have offended anyone out there it was not the intention.

I say we have a Fesler vs Kenny D build-off! I'll put my top 5 trophy up for the winner! (maybe then it will go to the "right" car:rofl: ) Seriously though, everyone needs to kiss and make up. This is not what this sport/hobby/business is all about. In the words of our old friend Rodney King..."can't we all just get along?":cheers:

In before the lock ........ WOW :dance:

I like that build off idea.And every area of the car counts.....lol

LOL!!! But instead of Jeff's Top Five Tracy will treat the winner to an Omaha steak dinner! LOL!

Chris,

Maybe one of the issues is that when you came on the scene you were just a little too sure and confident of your talents. There's no doubt that you are a talented builder but I can say, from personal experience, you're not the most congenial person as I have met you several times and even though you acknowledged me there wasn't any genuine showing of interest in knowing me. You pretty much just glanced at me, muttered a hello and basically ignored me after that. That's not to say that I need a huge fanfare to feel accepted but certainly a small slice of your attention would have made a world of difference. I know you're busy trying to make a success of your business and sometimes you just don't have the time but customer service/PR is part of that business you so desperately are working for. A great example is Chip Foose. As busy as he is he is always ready to shake someones hand and endure whatever conversation that person wants to engage him in.
As a new contender you need to respect the guys that are already there. I thought in the last post that you posted a pic of, what you felt, was bad fit and finish, you used probably the worst picture for this as you knew that was Kennys car and you know how he feels about you. Why would you post, of all the pics, that one just to make the problem worse? It makes you look childish which DEFINITELY does not command my respect and, I would suspect, a lot of members on this board. I like where you're going with your company and the talent that you've been able to harness now you just need to learn that it doesn't come overnight. Like I said in another post. Ya gotta pay your dues!

John

John, your entire post was dead on and well written.
But just to add one note:
It also doesnt make sense that Chris would post this pic because his gripe was with the top 5. Kennys car wasnt even in the top 5 so... :question:

Anyway.. congrats to all who made it a great show.

I posted the pick because kenny was telling me how perfect my cars were. I know where I got the pic and it was the wrong thing to do and again I am sorry for it.

True! BTW great meeting you!

Chris, I'm not trying to lambast you rather I just want you to understand certain issues that you may not be able to see that I see as a third party. You can take it for whatever it is. I look forward to seeing you next year and whatever creation you come up with. I'm sure it'll be badass!:cheers:

John

John, I thank you for the words and try to spend time with all that stop but as you know its not possible. I have a lot going on at the shows besides the cars, getting there, set up and so on. I am sorry if you feel the way you do it was no way intended to blow you off. I understand where you are coming from and in no way want people to think that. I will take it to point and try a little harder and appreciate the heads up. thanks

If you have some time lets talk at SEMA as you know we are on the crunch for SEMA now and will have some new stuff there this year. We have a large booth in Hot Rod Alley so come by and say hi please. thanks

You have a pm Kenny. :yes:

I can verify that much. In 2006 at the Detroit Autorama we had a Pro Touring get-together at Fishbones down in Greektown. Afterwards my cousin and I were walking out and there in the lobby was Chip Foose. My cousin was too terrified to go up to him but I have never (nor will I ever) be fazed by a celebrity. I walked right up to him and told him I wanted to say hello and that I loved his show on TLC. He shook my hand and even asked what my name was. He spent about 5 minutes with me and my cousin answering all our questions and then letting us in on how the Overhaulin' show was being revised. I couldn't believe how personable he was. When his table was ready he extended his hand and said, "It was a pleasure meeting you, Tony, thanks for coming up to say hello."

First class guy.

As it should be...no matter how much of a celebrity you become.Chip Foose is certainly a down-to-earth class act.
Try that with Reggie Jackson and see how well that goes...lol.:rofl:

I agree, Chip is a great guy. I'm a nobody off the street, and he talked to me like I was his favorite neighbor. Great guy.
I met Reggie at BJ a few years back. Didn't talk a lot, but seemed nice. His body guard was there.

Geez Tony, why don't you get a room with him! :rofl: :rofl: Just messing with you. Did you guys have the baby yet? I thought you said it was getting close...

Reggie lives in this area and I've have several dealings with him over the years so I'll just say this:He can and will come off as the nicest person on TV or if you're doing something to stroke his massive ego but get him away from that and he'll blow you off like you're from another planet and you have b.o. to boot.Not a pleasant person,trust me.
Ask anyone who's had dealings with him and no one will have a good word to say about him...shame too.

Thanks John. I appreciate the support. Wait, are you saying that I'm "special", like, I should be on the short bus?:rofl: Kidding. Hey, It was great meeting you, you're one of the Goodguys! (pun intended):cheers:

The fact that you actually took a picutre of a less than perfect gap on another builder's car speaks volumes. :rolleyes:

Especially before it was corrected.

Yeah that's too bad. I didn't know that.

I did not take the picture it came from his post, he must be ok with it if its up there showing it finished. Fit and Finish work

At some point man, ya just have to stop diggin. No matter who, what, where and why, ya just have to stop.

You've made your points, but no matter wether they are valid or not, people are going to argue semantics. And you'll never win an argument about feelings. If they feel you are wrong, there is nothing you can say to change that.

I am totally awe struck by all this conversation and how out of hand it has gotten. I (Chris' wife) was the one who originally posted a comment about how Troy got special treatment and how Goodguys bended the rules. Since then this thread has turned into a builder bashing paradise.

Just to be sure, I re-read all the posts and can't find where either Chris or myself bad mouthed any person or builder, we simply stated our disappointment with how Goodguys ran the event. I have found certain people who feel that they need to call us names such as 'jackass' and 'bitch' and to this Chris has defended himself. I have also seen posts where these above mentioned people have taken it upon themselves to critisize our work (and others) in an unprofessional manner, and to this Chris has defended himself.

I am confused as to why the bashing is ok, but a valid complaint about the manner in which a show was run and managed (a show that effects everyone on this board) or someone defending themselves is not. At some point, everyone on this board could or will have a car in competition and would be very disappointed if the same thing happened to them. Kinda like everyone bitching that all these celebrities get off scott free on DUI and drug charges when we all know damn well if the same were to happen to any of us, we would be locked in the slammer (just an analogy, don't get off track)

Fesler always appreciates CONSTRUCTIVE CRITISISM or any polite and professional comments anyone might have about us. If you know us, then you know this to be true along with the fact that we are pretty up front about things and how we feel. This doesn't mean we are rude or inconsiderate like some members are accusing us of it just means we are focused on the task at hand. I can name one builder, the late Boyd Coddington, who was by no means a Chatty Cathy when it came to meeting people and fans. In fact, he was rarely seen at events just hanging out but more in a controlled environment (signing photos or picking awards) and was not what you would call "friendly". I am speaking from personal experience of course and don't need a lecture on what a good guy Boyd was.

I don't usually post on these boards cuz honestly I think they are kind of silly and 9 times out of 10 they get off track. Since I am a chick, I just can't get into the opinions and all the testosterone! :) I do read them however and use them for research.

Fesler has been in business for over 10 years. We are not. . .I repeat NOT interested in becoming celebrities. Up until 2008 our business has been closed to the general public and we have worked on referral only. . .all this and we are still around. The only people I care who know who we are, are the people who are asking me to build them cars.

We became members of this forum so we could be closer to the members of our small but important community. I beleive we can all learn from each other and everything doesn't have to be a competition. . .but then again, I am a girl and what do I know!:rofl:

Sincerly,
"The Chick with a Big Mouth"
Carrie Fesler

PS: Don't bag on me for spelling. . .I am too tired to care.

No truer words have ever been spoken sniper.

Gotta let it go Chris,it's painting you in a very negative light and no amount of backtracking on your part is going to get you out of it.Drop it now,learn from your mistakes and hope for the best.Time heals all.

:beathorse

I let it go awhile ago when I apologized for things said but it just keeps on going and going and going and going and going. I did not even start this so its getting pretty funny now. I dont have problems with anyone up here and we all learn from things that we do. We are very open and not afraid to speak what we think and that will never change. I am not new to this and understand how it all works. Thanks for the kind words from all and it was great meeting you guys out at the show wish I had more time to BS with out the problems.

Well..... I think this thread is well done, time to take it off the burner. I think everyone has had their say and then some. I probably should have closed this thread sooner.

On behalf of our community, I want to thank John and Ed from Good Guys for taking the time to post in this thread. Very cool.

Time to move forward.