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CRCRFT78 09-05-2009 10:11 PM

Looks good.:thumbsup:

phillym5 09-08-2009 02:55 PM

Here's a couple pics of the turbo system basically done. All thats left is finish welding the wastegate tubes... then the headers get black jet coated, and all the tubes are being powdercoated black.:thumbsup:

The valve covers, inner fenders and core support are the old mock up ones.........The new "pretty" ones have yet to be intalled.

tones2SS 09-08-2009 03:09 PM

WOW! Very nice. I know it is not done, but it looks very clean under there.
I'm digging it!:thumbsup: :cheers:

syborg tt 09-08-2009 05:56 PM

looks good and the picture even seem better.

ALLSPEED01 09-08-2009 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by syborg tt (Post 233852)
looks good and the picture even seem better.

Thanks! These pics were from a real camera the car is far enough along we can outlaw the blackberry now!

waynieZ 09-08-2009 11:22 PM

Nice work it looks good .

phillym5 09-23-2009 02:34 PM

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Here's a quick update for you guys.....
The crossmember we bought sucked. It held the trans to high.. and wouldn't allow a big exhaust to be ran. So we built our own out of chrome molly. It came out pretty good. Camaro is painted.... and going through final assembly. We jet coated the headers and turbo exhaust housing.... quadra link is welded in place and painted... wiring has begun... the Marquez door panels are done suede and leather... the dash is leather upper and suede lower... roll cage is done and painted... ect.

She should be firing by the end of next week to go through the tuning process.:thumbsup:

enjoy.

Vegas69 09-23-2009 02:43 PM

Crazy build man. I have to ask, why a stock subframe in such an upscale car?

phillym5 09-23-2009 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 236270)
Crazy build man. I have to ask, why a stock subframe in such an upscale car?

lol......
To tell you the truth.. i would LOVE an aftermarket subframe... but there is a pretty tight budget on the car. Luckily.... I have had GREAT support from DCShoes, Marquez, IForged, Nitto, Digital Design, Comp cams, Bullseye Power, and my guys here at All Speed.
The build originally started out as a mild "cool" camaro... but once DC stepped in and made a donation... then came out with a SICK promotion campain... I opened my wallet and drained it to make it a bad ass build.
Quite frankly... i am running out of money. I have to pay my guys at the shop to work on it.. because when they are on my car.. they aren't making money from the shop... and three guys full time gets expensive.. even when im getting a SMOKING deal. lol.
The subframe is just too far over budget.
Don't get me wrong... an email with the whole promotion campaign was sent to try and get the baddest of the bad subframe.... but no reply. lol. :lol:
Can't win them all..... It will give me something to upgrade to in the future.

Vegas69 09-23-2009 02:57 PM

Trust me, I know the feeling. It's a giant snowball that really never ends.

camaro2nv 09-23-2009 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by phillym5 (Post 236273)
lol......
To tell you the truth.. i would LOVE an aftermarket subframe... but there is a pretty tight budget on the car. Luckily.... I have had GREAT support from DCShoes, Marquez, IForged, Nitto, Digital Design, Comp cams, Bullseye Power, and my guys here at All Speed.
The build originally started out as a mild "cool" camaro... but once DC stepped in and made a donation... then came out with a SICK promotion campain... I opened my wallet and drained it to make it a bad ass build.
Quite frankly... i am running out of money. I have to pay my guys at the shop to work on it.. because when they are on my car.. they aren't making money from the shop... and three guys full time gets expensive.. even when im getting a SMOKING deal. lol.
The subframe is just too far over budget.
Don't get me wrong... an email with the whole promotion campaign was sent to try and get the baddest of the bad subframe.... but no reply. lol. :lol:
Can't win them all..... It will give me something to upgrade to in the future.

You know what sux is when its all done Im sure you'll get a offer,lol

tones2SS 09-23-2009 03:05 PM

Very cool.
That thing should move pretty darn good!!:thumbsup:

Flash68 09-24-2009 12:58 AM

Great stuff dude... and you don't need no stinkin subframe. I like where you're spending your time and money :thumbsup:

syborg tt 09-24-2009 06:11 AM

Car looks fantastic and the pictures even look good.

rogue 09-24-2009 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by phillym5 (Post 236273)
The subframe is just too far over budget.
Don't get me wrong... an email with the whole promotion campaign was sent to try and get the baddest of the bad subframe.... but no reply. lol. :lol:
Can't win them all..... It will give me something to upgrade to in the future.

A properly prepped stock subframe can and will perform with the best of aftermarket subframes out there. Its all bench racing anyway, because it all depends on the driver in the end. With my modified stock subframe by guldstrand I've had no issues hanging with evos, 997s, m3s, m5s, and even vipers at track days. I've even had SRT vipers give me point bys. That was with manual slow ratio steering as well. I recently installed quickratio which should help a ton.

A lot of the aftermarket parts that we are so lucky to have are beautiful, but highly uneccessary and 'bling' more than anything else. Weight savings is about the only thing an aftermarket sub can offer you, and easier wider front tires, but with steering stops, I should be able to run a 275. I don't want to talk trash on all the great aftermarket companies providing all these great products for our cars, but what worked well for the trans am sunoco cars works well today.

The One Lap camaro runs a stock subframe and so have a couple of Stielow's builds.

In the end, the only thing that makes your car perform well isn't the parts, its you, and seat time at the track. Lots of people on these forums seem to not realize that nor care....

rogue 09-24-2009 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 236274)
Trust me, I know the feeling. It's a giant snowball that really never ends.


your snowball would end if you got your ass to a track and realized a guy with a 100whp miata is lapping you time and time again regardless of how much money you sink into your car. :lol:

Driver experience and seat time are the cheapest and fastest part you can add to your car. :thumbsup:

Vegas69 09-24-2009 10:03 AM

I'm not going to get into a pissing match over a subframe. I wasn't intending to slam his project whatsoever. Of course it doesn't need a new subframe, it just seemed like everything else was top shelf so I had to ask. Geez...:D

Mr.VENGEANCE 09-24-2009 12:06 PM

i farted in the wind once.. noone noticed.

phillym5 09-24-2009 12:51 PM

Thanks for the complimets guys....

Im really not to worried about the subframe. It would be one of those "bells and whistle" pieces. It was more about the ride height. I wanted to make sure i could get the stance i wanted with out rubbing issues. Luckily with the fender line flared out a bit... i have full turning radius without any issues.

There is a good deal of aftermarket on the car... but for the most part... its all custom. There wasn't much thought about weight saving... but the car wasn't meant to be built for track purposes. Actually... with the extra metal work.. there is probably 75lbs more weight to the stock body. I can't wait to put it on the track... but more for fun rather than "best lap time".

This car was built to be a highway killer.... :unibrow:
:cheers:

tones2SS 09-24-2009 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by phillym5 (Post 236480)
Thanks for the complimets guys....

Im really not to worried about the subframe. It would be one of those "bells and whistle" pieces. It was more about the ride height. I wanted to make sure i could get the stance i wanted with out rubbing issues. Luckily with the fender line flared out a bit... i have full turning radius without any issues.

There is a good deal of aftermarket on the car... but for the most part... its all custom. There wasn't much thought about weight saving... but the car wasn't meant to be built for track purposes. Actually... with the extra metal work.. there is probably 75lbs more weight to the stock body. I can't wait to put it on the track... but more for fun rather than "best lap time".

This car was built to be a highway killer.... :unibrow:
:cheers:

In that case, you should be good to go!! And I do agree that she'll be a highway ripper!!!:cheers: :thumbsup:

fleet 09-24-2009 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by rogue (Post 236433)
a guy with a 100whp miata is lapping you time and time again

I like how simply they solve problems like that in the cartoons. The guy lapping you in a Miata is the one who gets the anvil dropped on him. :cool:

Flash68 09-24-2009 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by WaterCooledNelds (Post 236524)
I like how simply they solve problems like that in the cartoons. The guy lapping you in a Miata is the one who gets the anvil dropped on him. :cool:

:lol: I like smashed Miatas. and S2000's.

phillym5 09-29-2009 09:07 PM

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Here's a quick update. Sorry for the Blackberry pics....:_paranoid

We got the exhaust all mounted up. Now we are pulling it and finishing up all the welding on it. I'll get some pics of that once its all done.
We also got the upper and lower dash installed and over the next couple days putting the entire interior together.
The front end should be on along with the rest of the turbo system by Fri.
All the plumbing should be done by tomorrow night. :unibrow:

We are going to use 8lb springs in the wastegates... those will be controlled with a Greddy Electronic boost controller. So anywhere between 700-1000 hp with the touch of a button.

Just today we had the stereo system bumping... It sounds sick!

Flash68 09-29-2009 09:19 PM

Awesome dude. Love the ass of that car and the center exhaust. Wicked.

Using the Profec B on this?

phillym5 09-29-2009 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 237744)
Awesome dude. Love the ass of that car and the center exhaust. Wicked.

Using the Profec B on this?

Yeah.... I love the Profec in my 996... so why not.:D

Al Moreno 09-29-2009 09:35 PM

Looks awesome. How are you mounting the license plate?

phillym5 09-29-2009 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Moreno (Post 237749)
Looks awesome. How are you mounting the license plate?

Funny you ask.....:_paranoid

I don't. If anything.. I'll put it in the window to get from point A to point B. I don't mind a ticket from time to time. ;)

Thanks for the compliment!!:cheers:

tones2SS 09-30-2009 11:07 AM

She's looking good.:thumbsup:

fleet 09-30-2009 11:23 AM

Congrats on what you've accomplished so far.:thumbsup:

Was any thought given to using the OEM style RS tail lights?

phillym5 09-30-2009 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by WaterCooledNelds (Post 237846)
Congrats on what you've accomplished so far.:thumbsup:

Was any thought given to using the OEM style RS tail lights?

There was a lot of thought about a lot of things.... But when Marquez offered me their new 3D tail lights... It was an offer I couldn't refuse. The guys are Marquez are soom real cool cats and I'm proud to be able to have their product on my car.

fleet 09-30-2009 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by phillym5 (Post 237878)
There was a lot of thought about a lot of things.... But when Marquez offered me their new 3D tail lights... It was an offer I couldn't refuse. The guys are Marquez are soom real cool cats and I'm proud to be able to have their product on my car.

Makes sense. :thumbsup:

Evan Iroc-Z 09-30-2009 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Moreno (Post 237749)
Looks awesome. How are you mounting the license plate?

Maybe he could just cut two holes in the plate for the center mount exhaust and call it a day. :thumbsup:

GM Muscle 09-30-2009 02:44 PM

with the extensiveness of this build im pretty sure that a flip down license plate could be fabbed up with minimal effort.. im thinking a small actuator that you could just push a button and the plate would drop down from behind the rear valance if you saw a need for it..

JMitch19 09-30-2009 03:02 PM

Car looks great. Hopefully I see it around at some point. I'm right down the road in Caledonia / Grand Rapids.

You'll have to throw a post up when you get it out to Gratton. It'd give me the excuse I did to get mine out there for some fun.

tones2SS 09-30-2009 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by phillym5 (Post 237878)
There was a lot of thought about a lot of things.... But when Marquez offered me their new 3D tail lights... It was an offer I couldn't refuse. The guys are Marquez are soom real cool cats and I'm proud to be able to have their product on my car.

PLUS, they make a killer product!:thumbsup:

Flash68 09-30-2009 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GM Muscle (Post 237888)
with the extensiveness of this build im pretty sure that a flip down license plate could be fabbed up with minimal effort.. im thinking a small actuator that you could just push a button and the plate would drop down from behind the rear valance if you saw a need for it..

Yeah man! Someday on some car I have always wanted to have the James Bond flip around license plate showing multiple license plate numbers. :_paranoid :D

phillym5 09-30-2009 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GM Muscle (Post 237888)
with the extensiveness of this build im pretty sure that a flip down license plate could be fabbed up with minimal effort.. im thinking a small actuator that you could just push a button and the plate would drop down from behind the rear valance if you saw a need for it..

Actually we were originally going to do a flip down plate. But once the diffuser plate was made.. it went out the window. So i decided that if im just rolling around.. i would throw it in the back window. But odds are I'll just keep it in the car, and if i get nicked... well... worst case is a ticket.

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Originally Posted by JMitch19 (Post 237894)
Car looks great. Hopefully I see it around at some point. I'm right down the road in Caledonia / Grand Rapids.
You'll have to throw a post up when you get it out to Gratton. It'd give me the excuse I did to get mine out there for some fun.

you are more than welcome to come up to the shop anytime.... Also whenever im in town... stop by Dowg Dowgs on Wilson just south of 28th st. It will be there every weekend. Thats were 75-200 cars meet up on Fri and Sat nights. Lots of cool cars, (mostly) cool people, and if you can stay up late... there is always a cruise to Joes Pizza on Division.

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Originally Posted by tones2SS (Post 237895)
PLUS, they make a killer product!:thumbsup:

They do indeed. When pieces started showing up... i was thoroughly impressed. Just good down to earth car guys over there.

phillym5 10-05-2009 09:23 PM

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Here's a pretty cool thing we did with the exhaust tunnel.
This is some gold foil we are also using under the hood reflect the heat coming from the turbo's(a mix of Carbon fiber and gold foil). I think it looks sick in the exhaust tunnel. Obviously this photo won't do it justice... but you can get a pretty good idea. It reflects up to 78% of all radiant heat with continuous operation temps of 450 centigrade. Here's a link to the product. It runs about $25 a sq ft. http://www.crracing.com/racing_perfo...flective.shtml

As for the rest of the car... we are just finishing up with the wiring. Tomorrow the front end will get put back together.. the exhaust gets re mounted.. and we will start running the power stearing lines, and the heater hoses. Its getting real close now......

tyoneal 10-05-2009 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by phillym5 (Post 217545)
Here's a couple more... the splitter is still being made/changed.. but we are liking the "trans am" style splitter that will have some nice struts.... also i included a couple pictures of how well the gas filler looks on the top of the rear quarter....

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Love the Car, needless to say.

How about making some Fiberglass, or Carbon Fiber, Front and Rear Fenders/Short Quarter Panels, for those of us that would like to help you pay for your car?:unibrow:
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A Question:

Why is the Gas Filler Cap on the Right side, instead of the Left Side?
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Keep up the good work, can't wait to get your replies.:thumbsup:

Good Luck,

Ty O'Neal

tyoneal 10-06-2009 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GM Muscle (Post 237888)
with the extensiveness of this build im pretty sure that a flip down license plate could be fabbed up with minimal effort.. im thinking a small actuator that you could just push a button and the plate would drop down from behind the rear valance if you saw a need for it..

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The flip down License Plate units are available from many, "Hotrod", suppliers.

I've seen a bunch of them on '23-'34 Fords, as well as others.

Should be easy to find.


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