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70rs 01-21-2010 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 73CPCAMARO (Post 262689)
It all comes down to the lack of room. The car is going to be so low, it all had to stay up. Packaging wise, there is simply no room to get past the rear end. The passenger side would have been nice to exit, but it has the offset third link and the battery will be there for weight. The drivers side behind the seat is the only place to put it. The thought of going back to a single pipe is to save space by using one muffler and also it worked out great for sound. We installed this same set up for a test on our Corvette, and it was amazing how quiet we got it. We have some sites that are very restrictive on sound limits.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...IMG_0371-1.jpg

I figured you had a good reason. Thanks for taking the time to explain.:cheers:

ZVT 01-26-2010 09:21 AM

Rendering
 
Send me an email on specs I can clean up my rendering for you wont cost much to do.

Love the project !!!:thumbsup:

deuce_454 01-26-2010 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 73CPCAMARO (Post 262689)
It all comes down to the lack of room. The car is going to be so low, it all had to stay up. Packaging wise, there is simply no room to get past the rear end. The passenger side would have been nice to exit, but it has the offset third link and the battery will be there for weight. The drivers side behind the seat is the only place to put it. The thought of going back to a single pipe is to save space by using one muffler and also it worked out great for sound. We installed this same set up for a test on our Corvette, and it was amazing how quiet we got it. We have some sites that are very restrictive on sound limits.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...IMG_0371-1.jpg

if you wanted a passenger side exit, then why not just route a large single after the merge? it should weigh less as one large than two smaller.. and since you are comming into one muffler anyway ?!?

73CPCAMARO 01-26-2010 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZVT (Post 264913)
Send me an email on specs I can clean up my rendering for you wont cost much to do.

Love the project !!!:thumbsup:

PM sent

73CPCAMARO 01-26-2010 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deuce_454 (Post 264915)
if you wanted a passenger side exit, then why not just route a large single after the merge? it should weigh less as one large than two smaller.. and since you are comming into one muffler anyway ?!?

Our goal is to get this car as quiet as possible. We tried with one muffler and it was not enough. The two smaller ones under the car were also not enough. We were able to obtain a unique sound with this set up and got it fairly quiet. It should also flow well. All three are straight thru design. With the two merges and three mufflers, hopefully it works out. Atl least all the weight is low and in the center. It may not be perfect, but it is different!

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_0137.jpg

buickfunnycar.com 01-26-2010 12:23 PM

Looking really cool Brian...can't wait to see more.:thumbsup:

73CPCAMARO 01-26-2010 08:53 PM

Here are some update photos showing the templates being made with cardboard material for the aluminum paneling at Maier Racing. It is too bad all the custom work on the rear suspension gets covered up.


http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...IMG_0361-1.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_0363.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_0364.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_0365.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_0366.jpg

ZVT 01-27-2010 07:50 AM

Already started on your rendering brian should give you some more inspiration I hope to see it done.:thumbsup: :D

rvorous 01-27-2010 11:59 AM

Brian,
I love watching the progress of your car. I wanted to know, when you were planning out the car, did you ever considered an IRS set up?

73CPCAMARO 01-27-2010 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rvorous (Post 265220)
Brian,
I love watching the progress of your car. I wanted to know, when you were planning out the car, did you ever considered an IRS set up?

Since the primary purpose of the car is to autocross in the SCCA class C Prepared, IRS is not legal. That would be a great set up, but not for this car. Thanks for watching! We are making a lot of progress now.

73CPCAMARO 01-29-2010 05:57 PM

The aluminum paneling is just about completed. Here are some updated photos. I am not sure which color I am going to paint them. I may also cover the panels with some kind of material.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_0514.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...IMG_0406-1.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_0515.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...IMG_0401-1.jpg

ScotI 01-29-2010 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 73CPCAMARO (Post 265837)
The aluminum paneling is just about completed.... I am not sure which color I am going to paint them. I may also cover the panels with some kind of material.

What about using some of the light weight sound deadening material from Dynomat (or one of those companies)? Seems like that might work toward your goal of helping keep things quiet w/o adding much additional weight.

73CPCAMARO 01-29-2010 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ScotI (Post 265866)
What about using some of the light weight sound deadening material from Dynomat (or one of those companies)? Seems like that might work toward your goal of helping keep things quiet w/o adding much additional weight.

I am going to be using Lizard Skin on the underside of the car and the back side of the aluminum paneling. Sound and heat should be controlled. I have never used Lizard Skin, but I have seen it on other cars and it seems good. I am using the sound control and ceramic. Depending on how nice I can make it look, I will be using the Lizard Skin or Line-X on the interior floor.

73CPCAMARO 01-31-2010 03:53 PM

With most of the interior paneling completed, Maier Racing has started installing the door bars. To make it easier for the driver and passenger to get in, we are leaving out the bar from the A pillar near the dash area to the middle. We can always add that later if needed.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_0520.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_0522.jpg

HOLOHAN'S HOT ROD SHOP 01-31-2010 07:48 PM

Lizard Skin is a great product. Light weight, easy to apply, can be sanded and painted.....

73CPCAMARO 02-03-2010 07:52 PM

The door bars and paneling are done. Here is a couple photos. They bow out a little bit and the new doors on the inside will need some modifications.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_0400.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...IMG_0408-1.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_0399.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...IMG_0401-2.jpg

tones2SS 02-04-2010 07:02 AM

Great work guys.
Keep it up.:thumbsup:

rvorous 02-18-2010 10:28 AM

Brian,
The progress on your car has been going a screaming pace, it's a blast to follow. Any update's / new photos since the install of the interior paneling?

73CPCAMARO 02-18-2010 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rvorous (Post 270089)
Brian,
The progress on your car has been going a screaming pace, it's a blast to follow. Any update's / new photos since the install of the interior paneling?

The car is progressing nicely. It was just moved from Maier Racing to the home garage last week. Maier finished the first major stage he is to do. There are a few minor things to complete later. At home, we are removing all the panels, suspension, transmission, rear end.... all the bolt on stuff. It is just about back to a shell of a car with the cage. After a few things here and there are fabricated, the car will be going to my body shop to get blasted and get the body work done. All the undercoating, cage painting and flares will be done. Once it gets to my shop, in about 2 - 3 weeks, I will post some more photos. Thanks for watching!

73CPCAMARO 02-22-2010 05:52 PM

I have a little update. Here are photos of the last items Maier Racing completed before I picked it up and go to the next phase. We added jacking points on each side of the car that are a part of the cage. We also added the fiberglass dash that needs a little more fab work, but is very close.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_0430.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_1172.jpg

Rod P 02-22-2010 07:55 PM

Looks great Brian! :thumbsup:

71RS/SS396 02-23-2010 03:49 AM

Where did you get the dash from?

73CPCAMARO 02-23-2010 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 71RS/SS396 (Post 271132)
Where did you get the dash from?

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_1172.jpg[/QUOTE]

I got the dash from VFN. We had to customize it for our application. It is now removable and with the A Pillar potion of the roll cage, trimming was needed. The part seems to be of good quality for what we wanted.
We are also in the process of making the section around the steering column for the gauges.

73CPCAMARO 03-04-2010 12:47 PM

We moved the Camaro today from the home shop to my body shop. Big day today. Just about all the fab work is done and it is ready for the body work. We are starting to strip the car down to bare metal and do the quarter panel flares.

Here are some photos of the car arriving.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_1840.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_1843.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_1842.jpg

Here is one of the prep booths the car will go in.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...ob/Booth-W.jpg

Once all the metal work is done, this is my paint department that will make it look good.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...t-Inside-W.jpg

buickfunnycar.com 03-04-2010 01:54 PM

Looking good...subscribing now.:thumbsup:

camcojb 03-04-2010 02:23 PM

great shop Brian, you're a lucky man. :cheers:

Jody

796spdbu 03-04-2010 04:35 PM

Wow that is a nice shop. Im blown away by the prep booth.
Your trailer sits low. Does it have torsion axles?

96z28ss 03-04-2010 04:43 PM

That is an extremely nice body shop.

67velle 03-04-2010 04:54 PM

more pics of the body shop.........:thumbsup:

73CPCAMARO 03-04-2010 05:05 PM

Thanks for the complements on the shop.

I am very lucky to have such a nice shop to go to every day. We built this shop just about one year ago, our newest of 6. Top of the line equipment, amenities for my techs, and the best for our customers was our goal. It is 52,000 sq ft.

Here are a few more shots:

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/_MG_4484.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...t_IMG_5233.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...r_IMG_6733.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_1004.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...-water-W-1.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...er-waiting.jpg

BigRatCamaro 03-04-2010 05:12 PM

Nice project nice shop :thumbsup: :hail:

montanass 03-04-2010 05:13 PM

awsome project man! Your shop is like disneyland for body guys, very impressive. I'm anxious to see how this car turns out, i anticipate nothing short of awsome

radrambler 03-04-2010 06:00 PM

wow
 
:hail: HOLY BODY SHOPS BATMAN



:wow: Now thats first class !!


Tom

waynieZ 03-04-2010 06:44 PM

That shop is amazing. Very impressive.

73CPCAMARO 03-04-2010 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 796spdbu (Post 273090)
Wow that is a nice shop. Im blown away by the prep booth.
Your trailer sits low. Does it have torsion axles?

They are actually bolt on spindles. The trailer in not sprung.

tones2SS 03-05-2010 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by waynieZ (Post 273115)
That shop is amazing. Very impressive.

I agree Wayne. WOW!!!:thumbsup:
Do you guys do many muscle/pro-touring cars there?

73CPCAMARO 03-05-2010 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tones2SS (Post 273236)
I agree Wayne. WOW!!!:thumbsup:
Do you guys do many muscle/pro-touring cars there?

A few of us have some muscle/pro-touring cars for personal use, but not many customers. We have done a few over the years, but we are too expensive for most people. We do customize 2010 Camaros for a handful of the Chevrolet dealers in the Bay Area. Our specialty is repairing newer and high end cars that were involved in an accident or vandalized. We have deals with many new car dealers and many insurance companies.

qship510 03-05-2010 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 73CPCAMARO (Post 273121)
They are actually bolt on spindles. The trailer in not sprung.

Really? Looks like it's been around a while too, any failure issues?

73CPCAMARO 03-05-2010 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qship510 (Post 273332)
Really? Looks like it's been around a while too, any failure issues?

The trailer is 30 years old and my Dad's trailer was built just like this one and it is also about 30 years old. No problems at all. Both trailers have seen a lot of miles over the years.

Vince@Meanstreets 03-06-2010 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by 73CPCAMARO (Post 273253)
A few of us have some muscle/pro-touring cars for personal use, but not many customers. We have done a few over the years, but we are too expensive for most people. We do customize 2010 Camaros for a handful of the Chevrolet dealers in the Bay Area. Our specialty is repairing newer and high end cars that were involved in an accident or vandalized. We have deals with many new car dealers and many insurance companies.

I know that place. Your in San Jose right? I thought it was Magnussen owned. Very nice shop.

no wonder your vette looks so good.
vince


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