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black2002ls 06-28-2007 10:19 PM

its got paint...its just several pages back.

black2002ls 07-10-2007 11:17 PM

A quick update on what I've been working on. Got the valve covers done today. They are stock style center bolt LS7 covers. the head, I believe is complete. A coat of primer should tell whether or not it is finished. I've also been working on a 1 piece racing seat. Something similar to a Recaro Profi. I'm on version 2.0 which is proving to be a little wide for the interior bucket. I'm thinking some custom door panels should take care of that. thats about it right now. I'll try and get some pictures up soon.

black2002ls 07-11-2007 06:25 AM

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...2/DSCF5769.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...2/DSCF5770.jpg

black2002ls 08-05-2007 08:52 PM

Alright. There was some tiger striping in the paint so I decided to repaint this beast. It is now sitting in a white base coat. Here are the paint choices I'm leaning towards.

Solid Color:

Sunset Orange pearl
Indigo

Stripes:

White w/ black or gunmetal hockey sticks
Black w/ gunmetal hockey sticks

I would really like some input on what you guys think so chime in and let me know

PASD U 08-06-2007 05:14 PM

Hope you don't mind that I bumped the pics of this beautiful color up so those have forgotten or just joined us can better help you without having to go search. I say leave it Sunset Orange Pearl with NO stripes. Maaaybe a different stripe, but I'm not sure about the hockey stripes. I'll have to put my mind to work and see if there's anything I can come up with. What's the word on the wheels? I saw some that might work for you, but they'll run you a little cash! PM me for details.

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black2002ls 08-06-2007 11:10 PM

Thanks for the bump. Man looking at those pictures I want to go back to the sunset pearl. Only problem is, I don't have enough left to re do the car. I've got it in black now. I think I might see if I can get some hockey stripe templates printed or drawn up and spray it to see what it looks like. I could go for an SS? Hood stripe I think someone has done the black/gunmetal like that. Keep in mind there will be a few more of these done with different wheel and drive train set ups. So there will be more chances for color. I think right now, due to lack of funds I'm leaning toward black/gunmetal.

As for the wheels. I've started casting the spokes and should have something to show late tomorrow I hope. They will look a lot like the wheels on penny, same color with an aluminum "hoop" or sleeve for the wheel

PASD U 08-07-2007 11:15 AM

So you're planning on doing more than one of these? Maybe black with the Sunset Orange Pearl stripes then? I'd seriously try to keep it S.O.P. if ya could. We've seen quite a few black Camaros. I hope you can find the funds to go back to the orange, even though...once you go black. Hahaha. Can't wait to see the wheels too. Hell, I can't wait to see it all put together!


My thoughts if you're going to go black, do a "blackout", or all black. Possibly even gloss with satin black finish stripes or vice versa. You could do brushed silver just a couple areas for interest (ie. brake calipers). Do a search for "1/12 Ferrari F40 Lightweight". It's a bit of an expensive kitbash, but there you'll find pre made black wheels, calipers and rotors. Just an idea. :thumbsup:

black2002ls 08-07-2007 01:30 PM

At this point I don't see an end to the financial difficulties in the near future. I need to sand out the black and add another cote then its on to the hockey stripes.

black2002ls 08-07-2007 01:57 PM

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...2/DSCF5820.jpg

black2002ls 08-07-2007 03:12 PM

Here is how its being done. the ring is two peices of styrene laminated together that I cut with a circle cutter. the spokes: I created one spoke to my specs, then I poured a one piece mold. I had trouble with the initial pour because the resin wasn't able to flow to the lower part of the mold. So I used some southern enginuity and opened up the mold from the bottom into the area where the spoke forks to allow the resin to flow down. Thank goodness this worked

LateNight72 08-08-2007 09:19 PM

Wow, fantastic work! :wow:

What about a black top with orange sides and a white hockey stripe seperating the two colors? Or orange top, black sides, white stripe? :unibrow:

black2002ls 08-26-2007 08:05 PM

The wheel is pretty well roughed out. I think I might find someone willing to put it on a lathe and true it up and clean up the center for me, also drill the holes for the bolts that would "hold" it to the outter hoop.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...2/DSCF5838.jpg

black2002ls 08-27-2007 11:21 PM

Well, I'm kinda glad I went with the black and gunmetal. Let me know what you guys think

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...2/DSCF5839.jpg

syborg tt 08-28-2007 08:33 AM

looks really awesome

black2002ls 08-28-2007 08:55 AM

Thanks. The batteries in my cam were about dead. I'm finishing up the hood and spoiler this morning. Should be able to get it cleared Tomorrow morning or Thursday. I'll get some outside shots when I do.

PASD U 08-28-2007 04:57 PM

Clean. Better than what I expected. Look forward to the next set of pics. So :D when can we expect to see some wheels on this thing?

black2002ls 02-25-2009 09:33 PM

Well,

Its been quite some time since I've spent quality time here on lateral-g. I was browsing the open discussion forum and saw Nelson Supercar 004. That thing is AMAZING. It has encouraged me to dig this thing out and get back to work on it. I've messaged Tom to see if I can get some more detailed pictures and possibly turn this into a replica of this car. Hopefully I can find someone to do machining in 1/12th scale for me at a reasonable price. That would really make things a lot easier where the wheels and other various things are concerned.

black2002ls 06-22-2009 02:35 PM

This thing has risen from the ashes. I've got the base for the rear tires formed, I think I've figured out how to create a fast 90/90 intake, I've spent most of today working on the front sub frame, waiting on some molds to dry. I re-worked the heads, removing valve covers and making new masters for each. I'm waiting on the mold for the heads and the mold for the tread blocks for the tires to cure so I can start casting those pieces. The tires will be TOYO proxes4 20"front and rear. I am hoping to stagger the widths front and rear. I'm still looking for someone to machine some wheel "hoops"for me without charging an arm and a leg....

First off the tires. I'm not sure if there are pictures hiding in here somewhere, but before all of my stuff got packed away, many moons ago. I had created a sidewall for a tire. I pulled that out, cleaned it up, and poured a mold. I took 5 of those and created the skeleton. 2 on inside and outside pressed together and one in the center for some support. Next I heated and wrapped a 2cm wide stip around the skeleton and glued it into place. Then I stacked 2 1.5mm strips and wrapped them around the center of the tire for the center rib. Once that was glued into place. I sketched the 3 different tread blocks that I needed and poured a mold. I'd much rather use a little casting rubber and be able to create identical pieces, than try to recreate them all by hand. My goal is to have a front and rear master, and cast them in casting rubber, we will see how that goes.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...2/DSCF6900.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...2/DSCF6899.jpg

Next is the front sub-frame. I had lots of issues with this, I re-did it about three times today, and come to find out, it is the chassis that is warped, not my scratch built sub frame. Once the kit is all together and everything is tweaked properly it should be just fine. There is still a lot of work to do with this. The bar where the engine will mount to still needs to be constructed, mounts for both the rack and pinion steering, and the a-arms and suspension need to be done.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...2/DSCF6898.jpg

SRD Art 06-24-2009 09:18 AM

Nice to see some progress, keep it coming...

black2002ls 06-24-2009 10:16 AM

Thanks. Its taking a lot longer for my RTV molds to cure than it should. That is holding up a lot of progress. I've sorted out the coil overs for the most part. I need to get to home depot and pick up some larger heat shrink tubing to finish the effect. I'm doing the majority of this stuff without a mill or lathe, so its using different techniques to create the "look"of the part, such as threaded bodies for the coil overs. I started work on the a-arms last night, but I think I'm going to have to re-stock my plastic rod and use that instead of brass. Does anyone have an idea of the OD of the tubing for tubular control arms?

PASD U 07-01-2009 07:32 PM

:thumbsup: Glad to see this plastic mutha resurrected. Keep us up to date.

black2002ls 07-02-2009 04:22 PM

A little more work done on this thing. Got it all sanded down and some fresh clear on it. I left out the trash this time, but a nice coat of orange peel took its place, gotta love the learning curve. The big update, well atleast the pictures are for the front suspension. I've got the base for the passenger side upper A-Arm done. I modeled a Detriot Speed and Engineering unit. The frame is different size brass tubing soldered together. The finer details will be done with styrene. I did this by first bending the outer bars, then it was all tacked to the kit a-arm to keep the proper placement. Then everything was soldered together. It ruins the kit part, but makes for a great template!

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...2/DSCF6920.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...2/DSCF6916.jpg

PASD U 07-02-2009 09:13 PM

Awesome.

black2002ls 07-03-2009 01:12 AM

Thanks. Still needs quite a bit of work. I need to re-stock my styrene stash before this makes much more progress. Oh and my tools need some upgrades. Now if I could only find a willing machinist to help me out.

SRD Art 07-04-2009 08:25 AM

Dude, you're outta control with the detail. Excellent work, keep it going...:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

black2002ls 07-04-2009 02:19 PM

Well this thing keeps giving me fits, I wonder if I'll ever finish it. I finally got some kind of mold for the tread, got a couple of blocks cast, and well the resin I have isn't flexible enough to allow it to form around the tire. If I keep starting over, I will never finish any parts. So instead of Toyo Proxes 4 tires. They are now going to be BFGoodrich TA/KD's. The tread blocks are all square. Careful measurement and I can use styrene instead of casting them. I've got to wait a bit to re-stock my styrene supply, or Maybe I'll cut some strips from the sheet I have. Who knows. Thanks for keeping up with this and the words of encouragement. Ah the world of scratch building parts.

PASD U 07-04-2009 03:20 PM

You know what though...keep all the prototypes and start a 1/12 aftermarket to recoup costs, time and headaches. Who knows all this hard work and frustration could pay off 10 fold in the end.:thumbsup: Don't let the set backs stop you. You're further along on your plastic than I am on any of the 10 diecast projects I keep saying I'll build.

black2002ls 07-05-2009 02:49 PM

Thanks for the words of encouragement. I never thought I would be working on this thing long enough to eclipse 4 years. I've spent some time today working on the rear end, hopefully achieving a somewhat completed sub assembly. Its going to be stock looking, the 4 link brackets, with the addition of some machined aluminum bolts on the diff cover. This is just the housing, I've got additional plans for the axles, which I can't really carry out until I have the wheels completed

black2002ls 07-05-2009 11:43 PM

A little update. You can go back through and see how the rear end housing was modified and the additions that were made. I drilled holes where the diff cover bolts were, then sanded them all flush. After that was done, I painted the housing with duplicolor primer then followed with some wal mart gloss black. After the paint cured, I then added the machined bolts with a bit of super glue. Hopefully the detail shows up in the pictures. I'm going to call this completed sub assembly number 1!!!

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...2/DSCF6934.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...2/DSCF6933.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...2/DSCF6932.jpg

PASD U 07-05-2009 11:50 PM

Looks nice. Gonna look good peeking from underneath the Camaro.

SickSpeedMonte 07-06-2009 07:06 AM

Looks great! :hail:

I used to build 1:24 models, but I find that I don't have that much patience anymore. Maybe I'll get back into it.

It would be cool to find a 1:12 and do it up like you are. Where do you get your materials for scratch building?

black2002ls 07-06-2009 07:48 AM

Glues, plastic stock, and metal stuff I get at www.hobbylinc.com most reasonably price place I've found. The other bits, machined bolts and such, just whoever is willing to machine them for me

PASD U 07-06-2009 02:43 PM

Have you ever considered using parts from 1/12 diecast cars? It would be expensive BUT...maybe not as expensive as machining/scratchbuilding some pieces. I think the Kyosho Ferrari or Autoart Lamborghinis would be nice starting points. If not anything else the tires and maybe seats would be good things to kitbash.

PASD U 07-06-2009 03:10 PM

Forgot to mention the brake calipers and rotors depending on what you got IF you were to go that route. Also forgot the Tamiya Porsche Carrera GT...has some really nice Baer 6P style calipers.

Here's a YouTube video that highlights an F40. You can also find an Enzo and the Porsche in the links over on the right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVGRY8TBEbY

black2002ls 07-06-2009 04:32 PM

Kit bashing is really too expensive an option. The limited usability of the parts as well as there not being a guarantee that they would work with the rest of the parts. I have found a 1/12th F1 kit that I'm going to pick up for $15 for the turbos. Short of that, its best to try and find someone to machine the bits and pieces for me, or to find someone with 1/12th kits that will allow me to borrow parts and cast them. I am hoping that my new business venture pans out and I can purchase a mill and lathe.

black2002ls 07-06-2009 08:56 PM

Well a small little update for tonight. Only one picture, but its taken me about 3 hours worth of work to get this one little part done. I've got the passenger side lower 4 link arm done. Well its mocked up. Teh part that mounts to the housing is done. And, as I type this I realize that I've made a mistake. The adjustable end should go on the housing side, and the stationary end goes on the chassis side of things. Well looks like thats going to require some correction. Anyway, this is the way all 4 4-link arms will look. The uppers will be shorter. They are constructed of brass, aluminum, and styrene. Painted flat black, followed by testors dull cote, and finished off with machined aluminum bolt heads and nuts from Hiroboy.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...2/DSCF6935.jpg

black2002ls 07-09-2009 06:56 PM

Got some major work done on this guy. The rear 4-link is pretty well finished up as far as fab work. I may have to break apart the inner bars and adjust them a little bit, it looks as though the pinion angle is going to be a bit out of whack. I'm still unsure as to how I'm going to secure the outer bars as everything else is drilled and pinned with styrene rod so that it will actually articulate. There may be enough for me to build a box to attach them with and insert it into the front leaf spring mounts after everything is detailed. the only thing not painted as far as the 4-link goes is the panhard bar. It may need some adjustments as it looks as though right now it may be in the way of the coil overs. They aren't complete yet so I haven't been able to check. Enjoy...

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...2/DSCF6943.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...2/DSCF6944.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...2/DSCF6945.jpg

black2002ls 07-09-2009 09:51 PM

Just a quick photo update. I cut some styrene circles to help me mock up the rear end and get the lengths fo rthe 4-link set correctly. I also used these to get an idea of what this beast is going to look like at ride height. I noticed that I'm going to have to re-work the front sub frame, yet again. The cross member that spans the length between the a-arms is hanging too low I think. There is a possibility it may be about right. I'll need to get the front suspension just about worked out to know for sure. Enjoy...

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...2/DSCF6950.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...2/DSCF6951.jpg

black2002ls 07-09-2009 09:54 PM

Also, I'm looking for someone who can machine some wheel sleeves for me. If you could imagine the outer hoop of the wheel, I basically need for of those in 2 different sizes, 2 front and 2 rear. Any volunteers?!?

PASD U 07-09-2009 10:16 PM

Coming along nicely.


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