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slenning 02-18-2011 12:40 PM

Looks great Ryan WOW:cheers:

Ron in SoCal 02-18-2011 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by slenning (Post 333416)
Looks great Ryan WOW:cheers:

Yeah it does! No apology necessary for those pics...

Rybar 02-18-2011 01:19 PM

I don't think you guys realize how dirty the car is right now :lol:

slenning 02-18-2011 01:33 PM

At least you're out driving it. We got a lot of snow this year and had a nice heat wave (almost 50 degrees:lol: ) this week, so it's pretty sloppy out there yet. Supposed to snow again this weekend though:willy:

Rybar 02-18-2011 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by slenning (Post 333425)
At least you're out driving it. We got a lot of snow this year and had a nice heat wave (almost 50 degrees:lol: ) this week, so it's pretty sloppy out there yet. Supposed to snow again this weekend though:willy:

Not much snow here Steve, but we had about 1 month straight of disgusting rain. No wonder Greg Weld calls it the Pacific North Wet :lol:

Rybar 02-18-2011 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamess113 (Post 333427)
Even though you say it's dirty it still looks great! Are you happy with the way it sits?

Make sure you post some more pictures of it once you get it detailed.

Thanks Jay, I'm going to wait until the springs settle. But will probably just leave it the way it is.

canrc 02-18-2011 01:56 PM

Car looks great Ryan! Love the wheels!! :thumbsup:

Blake Foster 02-18-2011 02:05 PM

My car is 24.75 to the crease on the quarter. I can lower mine to around 24.5 but I'd rather have a little extra to play with on the race track. 24.75 gives me 2.5 inches of bump travel and the pinion is about a pinky away from the tunnel at full compression.

That is weird, Rogers Camaro is 24" to the Crease in the 1/4 (with 345/30/20's) and still has 2.25" of compression travel till the axle tubes would contact the 3" exhaust.

Rybar 02-18-2011 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamess113 (Post 333437)
Hey I just noticed that Fikse changed the design of the centers. I'm looking at the pictures of your car and I'm thinking that there is something a little different about the front wheels. The area where it tapers in to lugs and cap is totally different. On my wheels and the one's on my customers car they have crisp edge before it dishes in . Your's just taper in.

Just an observation. I wonder why the changed them? They still look great.

Funny, I noticed the same thing too. Most are like yours, but I did notice SW (Streetking) centers are like mine. Wierd.

Flash68 02-18-2011 02:36 PM

Man that looks fantastic, dirty or not! :thumbsup:

DFRESH 02-18-2011 03:57 PM

Gorgeous bro---wow---that shot from the rear is money---awesome looking with those massive tires on the back. Congrats!!

Doug

Rybar 02-18-2011 05:12 PM

Thanks guys, I'll post some better shots after the weekend.

waynieZ 02-18-2011 06:17 PM

The car looks great with the new wheels and tires. Very Nice.

awr68 02-18-2011 11:14 PM

Looks great Ryan!! Nice job!! :thumbsup:

rwhite692 02-19-2011 10:25 AM

Looks great Ryan! The wheels really look sweet....With R-triple-eights... icing on the cake!

tones2SS 02-19-2011 10:40 AM

Great looking car Ryan. Looks awesome. Like Dougie said, that rear shot is money! Very nice.:thumbsup:

Sieg 02-19-2011 01:12 PM

Stance looks good Ryan!

DEIGuy38 02-19-2011 11:23 PM

Originally Posted by Jamess113
Hey I just noticed that Fikse changed the design of the centers. I'm looking at the pictures of your car and I'm thinking that there is something a little different about the front wheels. The area where it tapers in to lugs and cap is totally different. On my wheels and the one's on my customers car they have crisp edge before it dishes in . Your's just taper in.

Just an observation. I wonder why the changed them? They still look great.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rybar (Post 333440)
Funny, I noticed the same thing too. Most are like yours, but I did notice SW (Streetking) centers are like mine. Wierd.

If I understand what you guys are saying there are 2 differenent center finishes the soft/tapered centers are the Classic FM5 and the crisp edge/drop centers are the Profil 5. By the way Ryan your car looks great even with it being "filthy".

Rybar 02-20-2011 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamess113 (Post 333705)
I was just on the Fikse site. The difference is Ryan has Fikse Classic FM5 and I have their Pofil 5. Although the wheels look the same the wheels are a little different in the hub area.

Interesting we all just noticed this now :lol:

Rybar 02-21-2011 12:03 PM

Hey everyone thanks for the props. I spent about 6 hours yesterday detailing the car and I'm still not done. When I said it was filthy I wasn't kidding.

There is a local cruise here next weekend and I'll definately get some good shots of the car that day if the weather holds.

As for the wheels, I really think this is funny that we all never noticed the difference. :lol: I think the Mule is running Profil 5's like your car Jay. Either way both designs look good.

slenning 02-21-2011 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rybar (Post 333807)
Interesting we all just noticed this now :lol:

I never noticed the difference before either. Heres a shot of my Profil 5's

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/6...9chevycama.jpg

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coolwelder62 02-21-2011 03:20 PM

The Fikse wheels are awesome.They look perfect on your camaro.:thumbsup: Scott

ItDoRun 02-22-2011 07:12 AM

Looks like I'll be modifying my G-Link to get the ride height as well. I noticed the same thing on mine after I installed it. Of course, once it's welded in there's not much you can do.

The car looks great, Ryan.

pokey64 02-22-2011 08:52 AM

Your car looks great with the new wheels Ryan! I love the color. The stance looks good to me.


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Originally Posted by ItDoRun (Post 334050)
Looks like I'll be modifying my G-Link to get the ride height as well. I noticed the same thing on mine after I installed it. Of course, once it's welded in there's not much you can do.

Chris, Are you thinking about running shorter springs or modifying brackets and trunk floor? I'm working on a G-link install on my wife's 69 currently. I've only welded points that can be cut easy so far. If you or anyone else has thoughts on this we could start a new thread so we're not hijacking Ryan's.

Rybar 02-22-2011 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ItDoRun (Post 334050)
Looks like I'll be modifying my G-Link to get the ride height as well. I noticed the same thing on mine after I installed it. Of course, once it's welded in there's not much you can do.

The car looks great, Ryan.

Thanks Chris, this is tough to say. When Frank sold me on the G-link there weren't alot of cars with it actually installed that he could show me pictures of the ride height as low as I wanted it to sit. There were alot of guys running the older G-Bar/Air-bar/Prodigy-bar setup, but this G-link kit is a little different. Now I see that the G-link upper shock cross member under the stock trunk floor limits clearance for exhaust etc. So it's tough to get the car low like the Quadralink guys. On mine the shop ended up installing a shorter spring and moving the shock mounting points up. We also switched from the 175 lb springs to 200 lb springs. I find it rides quite nice with the 200 lb springs, especially compared to leafs which were much more bouncy and stiff, but I can't say I've driven it alot. And have definately not pushed it yet. The rear-end, tranny and clutch are all brand new and in the break in stage.

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Originally Posted by pokey64 (Post 334072)
Your car looks great with the new wheels Ryan! I love the color. The stance looks good to me.

Chris, Are you thinking about running shorter springs or modifying brackets and trunk floor? I'm working on a G-link install on my wife's 69 currently. I've only welded points that can be cut easy so far. If you or anyone else has thoughts on this we could start a new thread so we're not hijacking Ryan's.

No worries to Hijack, I think threads like this are good for positive and negative critisism of parts. Just like Todd's Payback thread. Great that he's honest in his reviews good or bad. Everyone of our cars is a test mule for these companies as were all running different combos, be it engine, tranny, rear-end, frame connectors, wheels/tires, tubs, non-tubbed, exhaust routing, gas tank types etc etc.

Thanks again everyone for the positive comments.

Ryan

Gandalf 02-22-2011 11:26 AM

Interesting observation Jay. I'm waiting on my 5s wheels and hope they have the crisp edge you mention - I like the way it has that center dish. It's a preference thing for sure. You car looks killer Ryan!

G.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamess113 (Post 333437)
Hey I just noticed that Fikse changed the design of the centers. I'm looking at the pictures of your car and I'm thinking that there is something a little different about the front wheels. The area where it tapers in to lugs and cap is totally different. On my wheels and the one's on my customers car they have crisp edge before it dishes in . Your's just taper in.

Just an observation. I wonder why the changed them? They still look great.


Gandalf 02-22-2011 11:45 AM

Also not wanting to Hijack Ryan's thread. Good GBar conversation and I too am interested in this.

I have the ver1.0 GBar and was looking to run lower than I could get with the lowest settings. A shorter spring (9") got me there but I didn't like loosing the shock travel plus I'm not sure if I should be worried about using the coil-seat adjustment for altering ride-height. I'm always scared that top spring keeper is going to fly out under full extension. Not sure if that is a well founded fear but I note they always say that is for spring pre-load adjustment only. (then again - we were never supposed to cut coils from springs back in the day either).

So the easy way out would have been to go to a shorter shock AND spring but again concious of loosing shock travel. If I did it over again I'd try that route first. Instead I had a DSE crossmember in the garage so we installed that with the DSE top shock mounts and cut the GBar crossbar out. Definitely not an install to be taken lightly on an assembled car and I'd not do it again - what a PITA but that is definitely NOT the fault of the parts! So that actually acheived more that I was looking for (addtl 4"). I am running the lower shock mount up a few notches and inverted - i want to bring that back down again so now I'm looking at getting longer shocks to compensate.

Varishock makes a shorter shock and spring combo (in fact I have a new set here) and I would definitely try that first next time.

My 2c.
G.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Rybar (Post 334088)
Thanks Chris, this is tough to say. When Frank sold me on the G-link there weren't alot of cars with it actually installed that he could show me pictures of the ride height as low as I wanted it to sit. There were alot of guys running the older G-Bar/Air-bar/Prodigy-bar setup, but this G-link kit is a little different. Now I see that the G-link upper shock cross member under the stock trunk floor limits clearance for exhaust etc. So it's tough to get the car low like the Quadralink guys. On mine the shop ended up installing a shorter spring and moving the shock mounting points up. We also switched from the 175 lb springs to 200 lb springs. I find it rides quite nice with the 200 lb springs, especially compared to leafs which were much more bouncy and stiff, but I can't say I've driven it alot. And have definately not pushed it yet. The rear-end, tranny and clutch are all brand new and in the break in stage.



No worries to Hijack, I think threads like this are good for positive and negative critisism of parts. Just like Todd's Payback thread. Great that he's honest in his reviews good or bad. Everyone of our cars is a test mule for these companies as were all running different combos, be it engine, tranny, rear-end, frame connectors, wheels/tires, tubs, non-tubbed, exhaust routing, gas tank types etc etc.

Thanks again everyone for the positive comments.

Ryan


Rybar 02-22-2011 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gandalf (Post 334102)
Also not wanting to Hijack Ryan's thread. Good GBar conversation and I too am interested in this.

I have the ver1.0 GBar and was looking to run lower than I could get with the lowest settings. A shorter spring (9") got me there but I didn't like loosing the shock travel plus I'm not sure if I should be worried about using the coil-seat adjustment for altering ride-height. I'm always scared that top spring keeper is going to fly out under full extension. Not sure if that is a well founded fear but I note they always say that is for spring pre-load adjustment only. (then again - we were never supposed to cut coils from springs back in the day either).

So the easy way out would have been to go to a shorter shock AND spring but again concious of loosing shock travel. If I did it over again I'd try that route first. Instead I had a DSE crossmember in the garage so we installed that with the DSE top shock mounts and cut the GBar crossbar out. Definitely not an install to be taken lightly on an assembled car and I'd not do it again - what a PITA but that is definitely NOT the fault of the parts! So that actually acheived more that I was looking for (addtl 4"). I am running the lower shock mount up a few notches and inverted - i want to bring that back down again so now I'm looking at getting longer shocks to compensate.

Varishock makes a shorter shock and spring combo (in fact I have a new set here) and I would definitely try that first next time.

My 2c.
G.

Sounds like you as well would have been better off installing a DSE Quadralink.

Gandalf 02-22-2011 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rybar (Post 334109)
Sounds like you as well would have been better off installing a DSE Quadralink.

I hear you but the Gbar cradle is fully welded and Moser rear was built with GBar mods. Tough to go that far back to go forwards.

G.

Rybar 02-22-2011 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gandalf (Post 334111)
I hear you but the Gbar cradle is fully welded and Moser rear was built with GBar mods. Tough to go that far back to go forwards.

G.

Understood, I meant deciding on a different suspension during the planning stages.

Gandalf 02-22-2011 12:32 PM

Planning stages - what's that? You must mean where I was going to spend a weekend getting this driver on the road LOL!

But absolutely. Too many examples of that during this build - my bad and we correct as we go. Almost want to do it over just to see how it CAN be done LOL. But it's all good and we're getting closer.

Can't wait to see your car in person - looks great!
G.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Rybar (Post 334116)
Understood, I meant deciding on a different suspension during the planning stages.


Payton King 02-22-2011 01:11 PM

Car looks great with the new wheels and I love the
 
stance. Most companies running coil overs are using a 5 inch stroke shock. That should give 2.5 compression and droop or 3/2...which is not much. Not sure I would want to go any shorter on the shock just from a bottoming/ride standpoint. Most are running between 250-275 rear spring. If you are going for ride comfort the 200 should be great, but I bet you will have a bottoming problem.

With all that being said....damn you car looks good!

ItDoRun 02-22-2011 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokey64 (Post 334072)
Chris, Are you thinking about running shorter springs or modifying brackets and trunk floor? I'm working on a G-link install on my wife's 69 currently. I've only welded points that can be cut easy so far. If you or anyone else has thoughts on this we could start a new thread so we're not hijacking Ryan's.

My choice would be to modify the brackets/trunk floor so that I don't lose shock travel. Not sure yet. I'm working on the engine build for now. I may just see where the car ends up after it's finished and then go from there. It's too early for me to tell because I have no weight in my car. It's still a shell.

strtlegal 02-22-2011 02:13 PM

I know on my Gbar setup there are several holes at the axle to lower the shock mounting. So you dont loose the overal length of 13-14" when lowering it more.

Do you not have this option? Or is it at the lowest setting? I know Im on the middle setting and my quarters sit right at my rims.

Rybar 06-08-2011 11:22 AM

I know it's been a while, but a local photographer took a nice shot of my car clean this past weekend. I may get him to do a shoot of my car now.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...b/_MG_5369.jpg

Gandalf 06-08-2011 11:23 AM

Awesome! Love the car - love the pic!

G.

waynieZ 06-08-2011 11:40 AM

What a beautiful shot. The car looks awesome!

Ron in SoCal 06-08-2011 11:52 AM

Top notch Sir! :thumbsup:

Richio1 06-08-2011 11:54 AM

Sweet! Let's see some more...

skatinjay27 06-08-2011 12:10 PM

nice! fikse's just give the car a high end but simple look!


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