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waynieZ 07-01-2013 04:14 PM

Beautiful piece of machine work.

Cris@JCG 07-02-2013 09:13 AM

No problem Al... Glad that I can be of some help.. currently we are super busy & I try to commit to realistic small projects I can be participate in.. I have some great ideas for the for your Gen 5 Camaro.. Looking forward to making these parts for you..

BTW- As soon a you & the boys left .. I came up with the idea on how I am going to make the reservoir for your M/C..

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Originally Posted by Al Moreno (Post 490581)
Thanks Marty for the props!

I also has to give props to Cris from JCG! He took 3 hours of his time Saturday morning to the boys and I come by. He reviewed the progress of the project and what still needs to get done to complete it by SEMA. He gave the boys realistic advice and gave them a game plan. In addition, he is going to help them with some custom pieces to take the project to the next level. Some of the stuff will cross pollinate with first gen, so stay tuned.

The attention to detail of what Cris does is just at another level. Check out this neat replacement check valve for the master. It replaced the ugly plastic piece with this piece of functional art! He will also be doing a billet replacement reservoir tank for the master with a built in separate reservoir for the trans.

Thanks again Cris for all the help!

Al

Thank you for the props Marty!

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Originally Posted by syborg tt (Post 490624)
Chris is one of the Nice guys in this industry. He loves what he does and is more then happy to help others. Heck I called him and asked him if I could borrow his wheel tool that Mario had and without even taking a second to think about it he said sure no problem. Chris only knows me from this board and yes I have bought a few things from him. But to lend a $2500.00 tool to a stranger from Chicago say's a lot about his character.

I look forward to all of the post from JCG on this BB & on Facebook. He does some outstanding work and the best part he finishes his customer cars and doesn't break their bank.

ps looks like I am going to be ordering up this check valve for my car.


V8TV 07-02-2013 12:18 PM

Incredible work, can't wait to see more. Way to go, guys!

V8TV 07-02-2013 12:21 PM

This reminded me of a video we shot several years ago of the Rad Rides crew cleaning up the block on the Ridler car. This was the first time I had ever seen anyone block-sanding an cylinder head...

http://v8tvshow.com/index.php?option...=333&Itemid=45

Al Moreno 07-02-2013 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Cris@JCG (Post 490838)
No problem Al... Glad that I can be of some help.. currently we are super busy & I try to commit to realistic small projects I can be participate in.. I have some great ideas for the for your Gen 5 Camaro.. Looking forward to making these parts for you..

BTW- As soon a you & the boys left .. I came up with the idea on how I am going to make the reservoir for your M/C..

Thank you for the props Marty!

Cris, I could hear your wheels spinning all the way home as your creative juices were flowing, LOL Thanks again for all the help!

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Originally Posted by V8TV (Post 490873)
Incredible work, can't wait to see more. Way to go, guys!

Kevin and all the guys on here, the boy really appreciate all the kind words as they know its coming from the best of the best.

Here is a neat piece that came in yesterday from New Zealand. It's meant for the Holden's but with some mods, it will work great on the project.

http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/...psa8af6a3f.jpg

http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/...ps696a69f4.jpg

http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7f4a0a92.jpg

Normally these cars have an intake that makes an 90 degree bend from the TB to an air box on the drivers side. The wanted to have a true ram air effect, so this one will sit over the radiator and under the core. To make it work, the section mark off in the picture will need to be removed and boxed in.

What you don't see anymore in this pic are the 100 or so holes they've welded in on the frame rails and other sections.

Attachment 40359

You can see in this pics all the holes that hadn't gotten welded in yet. The over hang was also cut out (Still on in this picture) and now they are in the process of making a flat fire wall. I will say that it's not easy making these engine bays look good.

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This is the same intake used on a race series in NZ and AU.

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Ron in SoCal 07-02-2013 06:06 PM

Al you guys are incredible! :thumbsup:

On a side note, those 5th gen rails are stout!

Rick D 07-02-2013 06:41 PM

:hail: :bow: :hail: :bow: :hail: :bow: :hail: :bow:

Al looking great!!

bentfab 07-02-2013 08:49 PM

Looking good Al !! :gitrdun:


Mark

waynieZ 07-02-2013 11:01 PM

Wow this looks amazing! Very Nice.

Richio1 07-03-2013 03:47 AM

Yeah Al... very nice stuff. Cant wait to see more.

Al Moreno 07-11-2013 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal (Post 490911)
Al you guys are incredible! :thumbsup:

On a side note, those 5th gen rails are stout!

Thanks Ron, saw your car at Best of Show and all I can say is WOW!

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Originally Posted by Rick D (Post 490921)
:hail: :bow: :hail: :bow: :hail: :bow: :hail: :bow:

Al looking great!!

Thanks Rick

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Originally Posted by bentfab (Post 490950)
Looking good Al !! :gitrdun:


Mark

Hey Mark, the boys spent all the 4th of July weekend working on the car, they are pushing.

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Originally Posted by waynieZ (Post 490966)
Wow this looks amazing! Very Nice.

Thanks Wayne!

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Originally Posted by Richio1 (Post 490988)
Yeah Al... very nice stuff. Cant wait to see more.

Hey Jeff, can't wait to see your car in person, sounds like your pretty close.

Here are a few pics of some of the work they did.

In order to make room for the intake,the rad support needed some massaging. They cut out a portion of the center section to make room.

http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/...ps55e1d689.jpg

To give it a finish look, the boxed the ends.

http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/...psb4083d08.jpg

After metal finishing it, let's just say I was proud, LOL

http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/...ps05774663.jpg

http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/...psf5d16a0f.jpg

http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2819372e.jpg

214Chevy 07-11-2013 08:51 AM

Very nice modification Al. Looks like it was born from the factory there. :thumbsup:

Al Moreno 07-11-2013 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 214Chevelle (Post 492505)
Very nice modification Al. Looks like it was born from the factory there. :thumbsup:

Thanks Marcus.

Here is a quickie of what going on at the other end. A lot of work has gone into the trunk cutting, slicing and dicing. Goten rid of something like 50 lbs of metal all together. I will post more pics later but here is a quick shot of the panel. Received the billet trunk hinges, they will also save a few ounces, LOL. I will post pics later.

The logo will have a brush finish while the panel and the rest of the trunk will be done in a satin gun metal. Thinking of doing a carbon panel for the divider.

http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/...psf4c9cdcb.jpg

WSSix 07-12-2013 10:31 AM

:thumbsup: I like it!

syborg tt 07-15-2013 07:50 AM

The car is looking great and there are plenty of great idea's going into this build. I am looking forward to seeing it at Sema.

waynieZ 07-15-2013 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by WSSix (Post 492691)
:thumbsup: I like it!

Me too !

Operations 07-15-2013 01:38 PM

Love the build, great job!

Al Moreno 08-07-2013 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by WSSix (Post 492691)
:thumbsup: I like it!

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Originally Posted by syborg tt (Post 493254)
The car is looking great and there are plenty of great idea's going into this build. I am looking forward to seeing it at Sema.

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Originally Posted by waynieZ (Post 493305)
Me too !

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Originally Posted by Operations (Post 493325)
Love the build, great job!

Thanks guys! What they lack in experience they are making up in innovation. What till you see what they are up to next.

Here are a few progress pics. My buddy Kevin at HM Racing Design helped the boys with the roll bar and bumpers. They specialize in $500,000 Trophy trucks, so this was a cake walk for them.

Replaced the front and rear bumper which are made from sheet metal with chromoly tubing and dropped over 30 lbs.

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They also tied in the mounting points for the rad off the new bumper. From the inside of the engine bay, the rad will have a floating look to it.

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Since they got rid of the rear seat, they were able to mount the main hoop on the ledge were the rear seat would normally be. This allowed to set it back were you can't see it from the side view. All the other bars we've seen, come off the floor by the front seats, so they are always visible.

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Check out how the down bar came down just above the rear solid mount. The secondary bar fall right above the strut mount solidifying the rear section. Finished it up with a gusset and small dimple.

Attachment 41402

For future planning, they welded in the mounting plates for the front down bar in case they want to go the a full cage down the road.

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Filler panel for passenger side of the firewall. This is were the factory cabin filter use to be.

Attachment 41404

Gas filler is being relocated to the trunk.

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This is a preview of things to come. They have gotten rid of 30 lbs of metal bracing that was there to support the rear seats.

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waynieZ 08-07-2013 07:24 PM

Wow big changes! Should make a big difference.

Al Moreno 08-09-2013 02:29 PM

Thanks Wayne, pushing to get it done for SEMA. Going to be Line-Xing the entire floor panel next.

The boys did a tremendous amount of work for something that will look so simple in the end. Creating a flat firewall on the driver side.

Here is a pic of the original engine bay. The red circle represent studs (total of 11 studs) that were sticking out about an inch through the firewall into the engine bay. These studs are welded to the plate that hold the buster and pedal assembly.

http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3c098fea.jpg

In order to create a flat firewall driver side, the first step was to cut off the studs off the plate.

Next they had to come up with a way to mount the plate to the firewall.

Seth made the template for what would become a ring the shape of the hole.

http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/...ps566cbd31.jpg

Next came cutting the shape out on the plasma cutter

http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6d63793f.jpg

Nathan cleaning out the edges.

http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8fc9e452.jpg

They cut the heads off the bolts and here they used the plate as a fixture to weld the bolts to the ring.

http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/...psfcb0a46c.jpg

There's was about another 20 more steps to get to where they welded the ring

http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/...ps189354e2.jpg

The holes were use to rosette weld the ring to the firewall.

http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/...psfc82bed5.jpg

http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3bd6fa19.jpg

Finally, they welded the ring to the firewall with the stud now facing the cabin. Next on the list is making a carbon fiber firewall.

http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/...ps0727af6f.jpg

Amituk 08-10-2013 12:11 AM

So mount from inside now?

Nice.

I think we have the next ring brothers here!

waynieZ 08-10-2013 09:02 AM

Wow! So many little details.

Musclerodz 08-10-2013 06:53 PM

Is the line-x going to counter productive of the weight reduction program? BTW, love what your kids are doing, going to make good fabricators in the future.:thumbsup:

DFRESH 08-10-2013 08:11 PM

Awesome is the only word that describes it Al. I love seeing the boys working on it---it's my own wish for my son---hoping he will one day get involved with me on the cars. Amazing work bro!

Al Moreno 08-25-2013 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Amituk (Post 498023)
So mount from inside now?

Yes

Nice.

I think we have the next ring brothers here!

Thanks for the compliment as that high praise indeed! But, I'm not sure about that as Mike and Jim always discourage them at SEMA not to do what they do but do encourage them to go to school. Nathan and Justin are both engineering majors. Justin wants to go in to the suspension design. Nathan wants to be the next golden boy in Silicone Valley



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Originally Posted by waynieZ (Post 498059)
Wow! So many little details.

Thanks Wayne, they wish they had more time before SEMA to do more but time is working against them.

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Originally Posted by Musclerodz (Post 498132)
Is the line-x going to counter productive of the weight reduction program? BTW, love what your kids are doing, going to make good fabricators in the future.:thumbsup:

Thanks Mike for the props. They were going to go with Raptor but we saw a truck where the whole body was shot with Linex and the consistency was incredible. Your right on the weight gain but we're thinking no more than a couple of pounds.


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Originally Posted by DFRESH (Post 498145)
Awesome is the only word that describes it Al. I love seeing the boys working on it---it's my own wish for my son---hoping he will one day get involved with me on the cars. Amazing work bro!

Thanks D, it is kinda cool that they will be keeping our hobby going forward in the future.


Here is a quick update. I have got to give all the credit to Justin on this one as this has been his pet project.

Over the past several days he's been working on a close out panel for the trunk to separate it from the interior since we lost the rear seats. This stuff has taken time. lots of it. It is one of those things that though it may look pretty simple, not many people realize how much time and effort is put into it. Here are some pics.

The template was the first step. Hours of fitting, checking, trimming, trashing, cutting, checking, trimming, you get the idea... the driver and passenger sides were not identical as well so had to do a separate template for each side.

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Hand cut the panels from the template

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Made two bends to comply with the frame it will sit against in the trunk.

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Next came carving out the bezel. Your not going to believe this but he did a lot of the work with a $6.99 set of files from Harbor Freight.

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We had a sheet of carbon made by APR performance. These guys specialize in wings and aero. They will be making one for G5.R. This has got to be the largest piece of flat carbon in the "UNIVERSE". That was for you GW, LOL

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Here is a close up.

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Tracing the template.

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After some online research, he found the best way to cut this carbon was with a jig saw and a carbide blade.

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here a mock up. Next in line will be drilling the counter sunken holes and bolting.


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On a different note, the steering wheels is being sent to get completely redone at DCT. These guys do amazing work, mostly for exotics, lambos, Ferrari, etc.

GW this is a wheel they did for a R8. I think it would look killer on your car.

Attachment 41728

Here is a link to their face-book: https://www.facebook.com/DCTMotorSports/photos_stream

coolwelder62 08-25-2013 08:01 AM

Al,Congrat's for rising kid's that are not afraid to work hard.The Camaro is turning out Amazing.:gitrdun:

Rick D 08-25-2013 08:06 AM

Great job guys, Al they are really taking it to the next level for sure!!

As for next Ring boys, why can't they do this on the side?? Most of us have to have our day job? Doesn't mean they can't build SMOY cars at night?!

glassman 08-25-2013 08:43 AM

Al, i may have missed this from earlier, where's it going to be featured at SEMA?

thnx,Mike

Al Moreno 08-25-2013 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by coolwelder62 (Post 501277)
Al,Congrat's for rising kid's that are not afraid to work hard.The Camaro is turning out Amazing.:gitrdun:

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Originally Posted by Rick D (Post 501279)
Great job guys, Al they are really taking it to the next level for sure!!

Thanks, it means a lot when it comes from the guys on this forum.

As for next Ring boys, why can't they do this on the side?? Most of us have to have our day job? Doesn't mean they can't build SMOY cars at night?!

Good point Rick, wouldn't that be a hoot, building a SMOY contender from the garage.

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Originally Posted by glassman (Post 501283)
Al, i may have missed this from earlier, where's it going to be featured at SEMA?

thnx,Mike

Mike, your right, I must have missed it, It will be at the Race Ramp booth....... God willing.

GregWeld 08-25-2013 02:04 PM

Love the steering wheel Al!!


Tell me something I may have missed. Is this project being built in a school shop?? I thought it was your son building the car -- so is he a shop teacher??

Signed,
Clueless in Sun Valley....

Al Moreno 08-25-2013 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 501349)
Love the steering wheel Al!!


Tell me something I may have missed. Is this project being built in a school shop?? I thought it was your son building the car -- so is he a shop teacher??

Signed,
Clueless in Sun Valley....

It's Mr. Clueless to you sir, LOL.

G that's a buddy of mine who owns HM racing Design. They specialize in $500,000 trophy trucks. He lets the boys use the shop for the stuff they can't do at home.

I thought you'd like the wheel.

WSSix 08-25-2013 04:52 PM

Very nice work! Good luck getting ti done for SEMA!

Al Moreno 09-01-2013 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by WSSix (Post 501382)
Very nice work! Good luck getting ti done for SEMA!


Thanks Trey, it's a lot of work, so they will need all the luck they can get!


Here a quickie of the firewall bezel, the carbon is going to get tone down will a mat finish. We used the factory hood as a test panel. That's going to be the color of the engine bay, floor and trunk.


Justin counter sunk all the holes with a hand held drill!

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waynieZ 09-02-2013 10:02 PM

Very Nice!

syborg tt 09-03-2013 12:27 PM

that is Awesome !!!

Where did you guys get the Carbon Fiber sheets as I need a couple sheets.

Al Moreno 09-03-2013 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by waynieZ (Post 502753)
Very Nice!

Thnaks Wayne!

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Originally Posted by syborg tt (Post 502824)
that is Awesome !!!

Where did you guys get the Carbon Fiber sheets as I need a couple sheets.

Thanks Marty, I think one sheet is all you'll need as they come in 4' by 8'. Speak with KC at APR Performance Inc. Tel (909) 594-3796

syborg tt 09-04-2013 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Al Moreno (Post 502916)
Thanks Marty, I think one sheet is all you'll need as they come in 4' by 8'. Speak with KC at APR Performance Inc. Tel (909) 594-3796

and thank you

Al Moreno 09-25-2013 05:43 PM

Well, cars is off to paint. There is no kidding, over 10 days of skimming, sanding and primer in the engine bay. They even skimmed the inside of the fire wall were the filler panel was welded in. There more hours in the trunk than I can count. Every single spot weld has been smooth.

The boys are thinking of going with the same color as the Z/28 concept. What do you guys think?

http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/...ps11bfcdc3.jpg

coolwelder62 09-25-2013 06:31 PM

It will look Awesome if thet choose this color.

Rick D 09-25-2013 06:49 PM

Pearl white mat would look really cool, but remember to keep your hands VERY clear or always wear gloves if you plan on touching the car!! It will show every little touch to the car!


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