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Flash68 02-09-2014 11:21 AM

Looks great Steve. Keeping chuggin buddy. :thumbsup:

gerno 02-09-2014 01:09 PM

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I was mostly teezing.


I know. Truth is I'll most likely change the BS is by adding some flares to the car...


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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 535179)
Looks great Steve. Keeping chuggin buddy. :thumbsup:

Thanks. I now feel your pain with the project...Mine was supposed to be a quick change out of a few parts... Wasn't your deadline for completion about now???




In my ever change tire size dilemma I have now pulled the front inner wheel wells and cut/rolled the fenders. I'll cut the inner fenders as needed to make them fit as well. Mocking things up I decided to try the 315 on an 11.5 setup. Based on previous ride height it doesn't seem too bad of a fit. Am I nuts to try this? Anyone know what the min steering angle I should aim maintain is so I can actually drive the car? It seems to turn pretty decent and has ~1" of suspension available at previous ride height. Is that even close to enough compression?


Am I getting greedy and stupid trying to fit this on the front?

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Vince@Meanstreets 02-09-2014 02:25 PM

greedy nope....ambitious yes. throw a couple shims on your control arm too. Lets get more camber. If you have a digi angle finder put in a negative 1.2

Also if you do that mod, be careful of your bolt length. ask me how i know.

you'll find that the more backspace you use the more the tire will clear that rear part of the well.

gerno 02-09-2014 03:40 PM

BS is limited where the tire tool is hitting the LCA and Sway bar when mocked using a 11.5" wheel. I'm not sure how a wheel compares to the tool. I could go to a 11" wheel and have no problems but I'm thinking it would be sub optimal and at that point a 295 may be better due to tire/wheel fitment. The 315 is a 12" tread so even a 11.5 is a little small. 295 may be perfect since it's 11" tread. Only think I don't like is the additional height using the 295

gerno 02-10-2014 07:36 PM

After talking to Travis a decision has finally been made. I'll be ordering wheels tomorrow. Going with a 295 front on a 10.5 rim with 7.25 BS. I measured based on the 275 and offset the tool to make up the difference. Using a 275 with a 10" width 6.5 BS is perfect. I've offset the BS to compensate for 1/2" wheel width plus an additional 1/4 for tire width/height front and rear. I think it's a safe measurement....

I lose ~1/4 steering wheel turn from the 275 so I think it's ok to drive on the street too. I'll find up shortly...:EmoteClueless:

MX145 02-10-2014 08:27 PM

Steve. Glad to see you're getting it all dialed in. I'm looking forward to seeing the final result! :thumbsup:

Man I sure wish I had a wheel measuring tool like that when I did my mockup although I don't know if it would have helped my indecision. Figuring out the tire/wheel combo was more stressful than installing the mini tubs for me. I kept going back and forth on things and was worried I was getting to greedy too.

gerno 02-16-2014 07:17 PM

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Steve. Glad to see you're getting it all dialed in. I'm looking forward to seeing the final result! :thumbsup:

Man I sure wish I had a wheel measuring tool like that when I did my mockup although I don't know if it would have helped my indecision. Figuring out the tire/wheel combo was more stressful than installing the mini tubs for me. I kept going back and forth on things and was worried I was getting to greedy too.

I debated buy it but could not imagine fitting the wheels without it. Completely worth the money.

Finally decided on a 18/19 stagger setup. 18x10.5 (275-285/35/18 depending on tire) front and 19x12 (325/30/190 rear

Rear test with 325/30/19

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gerno 02-16-2014 07:26 PM

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Got a few more things done this weekend

Fitted the bolt in roll bar to the new wider wheel tubs

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Installed Finch's new shifter boot. I assume it was meant to expose the entire shifter assembly but I spaced it back a bit to fit better.

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glassman 02-16-2014 09:07 PM

Shifter looks just right. Did you install that LS already on the down low?????

295 up front? daaammmm....thats a lot of traction....btw, those tires in the back look huge.....

gerno 02-17-2014 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by glassman (Post 536928)
Shifter looks just right. Did you install that LS already on the down low?????

295 up front? daaammmm....thats a lot of traction....btw, those tires in the back look huge.....

No LS swap yet. Going to get it driving with the current engine and then work the swap in a month or two....at least that's the current plan.

No longer going 295 on the front. Decided the wheel would be too narrow to allow the 295 to work right. Decided a 275-285 on a 10.5 rim would be better. This way I could take Ron's advise and stretch the tread a little.

MX145 02-17-2014 08:50 AM

I really like the color of your car. That rear tire setup goes along nicely with it! :thumbsup:
Tunnel mod looks good too.

tubbed69 02-17-2014 09:04 AM

nice work so far Steve,car is looking great:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Flash68 02-17-2014 03:00 PM

Pretty sure 275/325 is what Stielow ran on Red Devil. Worked well for that car. :D

FETorino 02-17-2014 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 537038)
Pretty sure 275/325 is what Stielow ran on Red Devil. Worked well for that car. :D

And Mayhem.:)

Flash68 02-17-2014 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 537112)
And Mayhem.:)

Look at that... you actually do follow the Camaro stuff.. who knew?!

gerno 02-18-2014 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MX145 (Post 536973)
I really like the color of your car. That rear tire setup goes along nicely with it! :thumbsup:
Tunnel mod looks good too.

Thanks, hopefully I end up leaving the paint alone and not flaring the car to fit more tires...

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Originally Posted by tubbed69 (Post 536976)
nice work so far Steve,car is looking great:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Thanks. Not as good as some can do but I'm learning a ton and having lots of fun.

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 537038)
Pretty sure 275/325 is what Stielow ran on Red Devil. Worked well for that car. :D

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And Mayhem.:)

I didn't know Red Devil had the 275/325 combo but I did know about Mayhem. Looking at photos of Mayhem have swayed my decision

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Look at that... you actually do follow the Camaro stuff.. who knew?!

He's got plenty of time to follow all the Camaro's since he's only working on Bobcats instead of the Torino

Flash68 02-18-2014 09:52 PM

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He's got plenty of time to follow all the Camaro's since he's only working on Bobcats instead of the Torino

Such is life on the ranch....

BigJoe 02-18-2014 10:07 PM

So nice I'm a second gen lover too. Keep it up man love the thread.

gerno 02-20-2014 07:15 PM

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:waveflag: I'm going nuts again on my wheel/tire selection. I had some 335/30/18 rivals on hold due to potential backorder. Apparently these tires shipped because they were at my door this morning. Given I had the tires I decided to test out the fitment. Now I'm really confused again. I still have time to change my wheel order and think I may go with the 335 since it's only slightly widens and much shorter than the 325.

325
Pro - slightly narrower but not much
Con - increased height interferes with Qtr flare

335
Pro - shorter height fits flare and lip
Con -Just wide enough to barely fit. Overall ~3/8-1/2 max inside and out. Possible rubbing issues

Tire selection - Overall I feel its pretty equal if not better for the 325.
325 - mainly Michelin, Goodyear, Bridgestone and Hoosier
335 - mainly BFG, Hoosier, Michelin, Toyo (R888)


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Vince@Meanstreets 02-20-2014 10:07 PM

Get the cut off wheel out.....:bur2:

gerno 03-19-2014 02:20 PM

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Working to finish up the car this week. Most just buttoning everything up, checking all the bolts, running the brake lines, parking brake cables and setting up a temporary exhaust until I swap the engine.

I have the front inner fenders reshaped to clear the wheels but I have to say it's not the best work. Good thing is that it can't be seen. Bad part is, when I get back to having a full shop I will need to redo the work. I now have A LOT of respect for the work people post on this forum.

More importantly my wheels will be arriving next week. Travis sent me over some preview pics that I had to share. I'm excited to see the new look of the car with them mounted up

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tubbed69 03-19-2014 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by gerno (Post 542405)
Working to finish up the car this week. Most just buttoning everything up, checking all the bolts, running the brake lines, parking brake cables and setting up a temporary exhaust until I swap the engine.

I have the front inner fenders reshaped to clear the wheels but I have to say it's not the best work. Good thing is that it can't be seen. Bad part is, when I get back to having a full shop I will need to redo the work. I now have A LOT of respect for the work people post on this forum.

More importantly my wheels will be arriving next week. Travis sent me over some preview pics that I had to share. I'm excited to see the new look of the car with them mounted up

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Those wheels will sure look nice on your car.

carbuff 03-19-2014 05:25 PM

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Looks great! :thumbsup:

Flash68 03-19-2014 05:26 PM

Killer. You can't wait to get your hands on those I bet. :D

glassman 03-19-2014 07:21 PM

What tire size combo did you end up with?

gerno 03-19-2014 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tubbed69 (Post 542428)
Those wheels will sure look nice on your car.


I'm hoping so...

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Looks great! :thumbsup:

Thanks

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Killer. You can't wait to get your hands on those I bet. :D

Feel like a kid wanting for Christmas. Luckily I have lots left to do to the car so I can stay busy..

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What tire size combo did you end up with?

Decided on the 275/35/18 with 325/30/19 in the Bridgestone RE11. I just hope all my measurements were correct....

FETorino 03-19-2014 08:57 PM

:thumbsup: Steve they will look even better in person. I bet you are going nuts waiting.
:cheers:

rickpaw 03-20-2014 05:59 AM

Them wheels will look great in the car.

I see you're in Austin. What part of Austin are you located? My sister inlaw lives in N. Austin (Palmer Lane/SH45) and I come up there every other month.

gerno 03-20-2014 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 542455)
:thumbsup: Steve they will look even better in person. I bet you are going nuts waiting.
:cheers:

Saw a set on someone else's car last week. Got me really excited to get them. Excited and nervous that Iay have measured wrong.....


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Them wheels will look great in the car.

I see you're in Austin. What part of Austin are you located? My sister inlaw lives in N. Austin (Palmer Lane/SH45) and I come up there every other month.

I live just south of the river downtown and work up by Parmer. Let me know when you're in town and we can meet up for a beer or something

rickpaw 03-20-2014 11:09 AM

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I live just south of the river downtown and work up by Parmer. Let me know when you're in town and we can meet up for a beer or something

Will do. I'd like to meet up with you and Brian (carbuff).

gerno 03-20-2014 01:45 PM

Bryan lives about 1/2 mile from me so I assume we could fine a place close by to get into trouble.

carbuff 03-20-2014 02:17 PM

^ what he said...

WSSix 03-20-2014 06:22 PM

Congrats on approaching the finish line. Good choice on the wheels also. I think they will look great!

waynieZ 03-20-2014 08:15 PM

Sweet looking wheels.

cwylie 03-21-2014 06:23 AM

Did someone say trouble? I like trouble! If you guys decide to meet for drinks or what not I would love to join. Always looking for new car people in the area. I live just south of 290 and South Lamar.

gerno 03-25-2014 08:27 AM

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Sweet looking wheels.

Soon....I hope....

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Congrats on approaching the finish line. Good choice on the wheels also. I think they will look great!

thanks. They come in today to its almost the moment of truth.

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Did someone say trouble? I like trouble! If you guys decide to meet for drinks or what not I would love to join. Always looking for new car people in the area. I live just south of 290 and South Lamar.

You're just around the corner. Sounds like to certainly need to grab some beers soon. Should also meet up for cars and coffee on April 6. I hear the Discovery channel will be there.


I have done a few more things to the car. After looking at the cars at the USCA event I decided the rear seat needed to go. I pulled the factory rear panel out and installed a a flat sheet. I need to decide what to do with the factory floor seam. Most likely I'll cut this out too but wanted to test with it in place first.

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I also plumbed all the brake lines and routed the parking brake cables.

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The biggest issue was the front inner fenders. They aren't pretty but they now clear the wheels...at least I hope they do. I'll find out tonight.

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Stovebolter 03-25-2014 11:00 AM

Looks great. Bet you can't wait for the maiden voyage!

David

carbuff 03-25-2014 11:49 AM

Do you know where you'll get the tires mounted? I had mine done at the Discount Tire in Lakeway. It was a haul, but was the only place I found that had the machine which holds the wheel in the center instead of on the lip. Had them road-balanced there also...

Look forward to seeing them!

gerno 03-25-2014 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by carbuff (Post 543307)
Do you know where you'll get the tires mounted? I had mine done at the Discount Tire in Lakeway. It was a haul, but was the only place I found that had the machine which holds the wheel in the center instead of on the lip. Had them road-balanced there also...

Look forward to seeing them!

I went ahead and had Tire Rack send the tires to Formula 43 and they mounted them for me. When they get here today they will be ready to put on the car. I was too nervous letting a local tire shop mount them for the first time. Good to know Discount in Lakeway can do them next when I where these out.

carbuff 03-25-2014 03:28 PM

Good call! :thumbsup:


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