thanks!
 

thanks tony!

temporary rollers
 

found these in town for cheap.
it's a square setup of used 18x8 momo gtr with 235/40 rubber.

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the plan is to use these only temporarily until i can get measurements at final ride height for the custom wheel/tire package.

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thanks a lot for your interest!
danny

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Taking shape.
Keep up the good work.

^ that is awesome! :cheers:

I like vids that get right to the point.

:D

Gotta be a great feeling!!!

thanks guys!!!

yeah, i'm pretty stoked right now... almost can't believe how much progress has been made in the last three months.
the bodylifting party was a lot of fun, but hopefully that will be the last time it needs to be done for a very, very long time!

thanks again for your interest!
danny

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Very cool Danny. Awesome video.

That was cool!

dig it, i love old ponchos

thank you!
 

guys, thanks a lot for checking out my project!

:thankyou:

danny

project rendering
 

the further along with this project i get the more i realize how much my plans have changed since i first began the disassembly in 1999.
at that time i had absolutely no idea what i was getting myself in to and even less of an idea about how to carry on with it to ensure the dream would become a reality.
for example, i had never thought i would need an artistic rendering so i never really planned to have one created- until recently.
several weeks ago i came across a thread here entitled 'teenager doing renderings' and after seeing some of the examples posted there i began to think about having one done for my GTO.
after initiating contact with roman we quickly came to an agreement about how to proceed with the work and within only a couple days he had begun constructing the rendering.
from the very beginning roman seemed totally professional and was very easy and accommodating to work with.
throughout the project he quickly and thoroughly addressed all of my suggestions and remained clearly committed to developing the picture which previously had only ever been present in my mind's eye.
thanks, roman!
also, i am very grateful for the strong advice i received from the man who first suggested i have this done...
thank you, roger!

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I like the Pontiac rims. What size tires are using per your drawing. Front spoiler looks awesome.:dance: Hows it look in silver? What color white are you going with? Check out the 2014 white metallic Ford Fusion. It is absolutely stunning. Tinted glass?

thanks!
those are circle racing's 18 inch rally II billet wheels.

yes, for a long time i entertained the idea of painting the GTO a color which might be considered a "blend" of the colors of the black goat and the white goat to create, in essence, a grey goat.
roman did produce an image of the car in ferrari silverstone grigio, so i could get an idea what that would look like, but in the end it didn't really seem appropriate.
after thinking about it long and hard it became clear to me that this GTO must be painted the original color.
my whole life i've known this GTO to be cameo ivory, and all the memories that remain with me now were created in that white goat.
ultimately, i feel that in this particular case it makes sense to stay true to it's original appearance.
also, i believe this is what my father would have preferred.
many of the conversations we had about this car when he was still alive continue to ring in my ears... and i intend to honor his dream as much as i possibly can while i proceed with the restoration.
danny

i hope to mount 25.9" tall 285/35 tires to 18x9.5 wheels in the rear. that tire's section width is about 11.5 inches (my measurement from the frame to the quarter lip is 315mm, which is 12.4 inches).
in the front the tires are 25.7" tall 245/40 on 18x8 with a 9.8" section width.

this GTO does not have air conditioning so i have been considering the option of tinting the glass as a possible way to help mitigate high interior temperatures.
i have much more research to do on this topic so i'm not certain at this point what will happen with the glass, but i figured the rendering could help give me an idea what some tint might look like.

thanks again!
i really appreciate your interest in this project!!!

:lateral:

danny

Any thing new on the GOAT?
 

I'm sure you are getting ready for a paint job or are in paint jail already. Any new updates? Have you bought tires and rims yet? What white color did you end up with for painting the body?

Details and update appreciated. Thanks Roger :hello:

Nice project, just went through the entire thread. Great story! Can't wait to see her done.

update as requested
 

thanks so much for checking in!
and thanks as well for your interest in this project!!!

as far as i can tell i'm still a ways out from paint.
am i missing something here?
i have seen that many other frame-off projects apply paint before mounting autobody back to the frame, but i was unable to do this... is it a mistake?
i can still unbolt and raise the autobody then remove the rolling chassis if necessary.
i don't plan to make final measurements for wheel/tire package until the full weight of the ride is sitting on the properly adjusted suspension system.
the idea is to settle for the momo setup with falken rubber until then.

i'm very excited about how far this car has come and i have been thinking a lot lately about how to continue the project.

one of the most important lessons i've had to learn throughout this entire process is something most of you gentlemen are probably already familiar with: restoring a car is one project and finding a way to pay for it is something completely different.
consequently, i have been very busy with work this season and have had precious little time to devote to the goat.

as far as recent progress is concerned, i do have a few pieces of good news to report...

i believe i've solved the tensioner pulley puzzle.
after countless hours of sorting through pulleys at parts stores and salvage yards, i finally found a general motors manufactured tensioner pulley that might work for the serpentine accessory drive.

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at 4.00" the dimension between the two mounting holes in the tensioner is exactly the same as the dimension between the threaded stud on the timing cover and the lower alternator mount!

also, after months of screening ebay and other online sources i finally found a spread bore, four barrel, rochester quadrajet carburetor for 1968 pontiac manual transmission application.

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huge credit to cliff ruggles and his team at cliff's high performance for their effort in remanufacturing and refinishing this quadrajet.
many sources claim no one has more skill and knowledge with the rochester quadrajet than cliff ruggles, so i am very fortunate i was able to coordinate with him on this project.

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702 => 1960's
8 => 1968
2 => quadrajet (4 bbl) federal standards
6 => pontiac
3 => manual transmission

thanks again for your interest in this project.
i will update with further developments as progress continues.
danny

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The small details of the build is what makes the post worth while. That Rochester carb. coding is a nice touch. Conversation piece!

As far as I'am concerned you want to paint the body on the car and mask off accordingly. My painter did paint the doors, hood and trunk, along with the the front bumper separate once everything was fitted and blocked. However they did follow each other into the paint booth.

I give you great kudo's for your patience taking your time in the build. As far as money goes you just get the fever and keep moving forward.

Please keep us informed on the build... :thumbsup:

serpentine conversion
 

recently made some progress getting the serpentine accessory drive assembled.


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the tensioner was pulled off a shelf at my local NAPA parts store.
getting everything to line up properly didn't happen without a little cutting and grinding.
the threaded stud at timing cover was shortened 0.75" then a 1.00" long coupling nut threaded onto it allowed thru-bolt for the lower mounting point of tensioner.


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upper mounting point of tensioner at upper power steering bracket thru-bolt.
at this location i had to push the tensioner back into the alternator bracket to line up with the other pulleys.

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underside of lower alternator mount needed to be slotted to align mounting points.


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power steering bracket was shaved to fit tensioner housing.


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thanks for your interest!
danny

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good work!

it seems like i can spiff-up the steering column with replacement bearings, bushings, etc. from inline tube and ames.
i'll just remove the column shift handle, clean it all up, replace worn or un-useable equipment as necessary, paint it and re-install.
and yes, as you can tell from the original paint on the steering column, the stock interior color of this vehicle was turquoise. someone painted black over it before my parents got the car.

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the blower motor box cleaned up pretty nice and i found a replacement blower motor in town.
the heater box which mounts to the inside of the firewall will need to be replaced because at some point my father modified it to install a larger heater core.

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i knew i was going to have to cut a hole in the floor at some point... and the other day i finally got down to figuring it out.
also, i got all the shifting rods and the speedo cable installed with no major headaches.
from here i plan to order a shifter porch, console mounting bracket kit and console kit from ames/inline tube/opgi/etc.

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thankfully the firewall was equipped for stock clutch linkage so i plan to mount the mcleod/wilwood clutch master cylinder at this location.

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i also recently began installation of the msd pro billet distributor and the rest of the ignition system.

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i placed an order last week for ron davis dual electric fan radiator, master grounding kit, wiring harnesses and some other bits and pieces.
i will update again as progress continues.

thanks for having a look at my work, and please- if anything looks or sounds screwy please feel free to comment.
i'm lucky to share this project with this community and i am always thankful for any input members here might have to offer.
thanks again!

danny

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here are some photos of what i've been busy with lately.

starting to get a better idea of what it will take to get the clutch master cylinder in place.
with the arrangement shown in the photograph the rod lines up with the pivot on the pedal very well, but i needed to cut a hole in the firewall to make it work.

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got the pedals hanging for a look at what i need to do there.
of course the brake pedal is for automatic transmission application.
i would like to use a replacement from manual transmission application, so i'm looking around online for one.

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and lots of detailing...

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also recently placed an order with ames for many things i know i need right now to move forward... except wiring harnesses.
i need to learn more about how i should set up the wiring.
many aftermarket wiring kits offer significant upgrades and there are so many options available.

happy holidays!
danny

:lateral:

I don't post here much because I'm just a fanboy drooling over everyone's amazing cars.

But I wanted to wish you continued good luck and smooth sailing on your build, and thank you for the quality of your posts. Clear and well-lit photos accompanied by well-written posts really make your thread enjoyable to read.

Happy New Year as well!

wow guys, thanks so much for sharing your thoughts and offering such nice compliments!
i really feel grateful for the input offered from members of this community.
the tech advice and the motivating comments this thread receives have really helped me stay on top of this project- cheers!
i recently received a delivery of parts from ames so i'm hoping for a good bit of progress in the near future.

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:ups:

thanks for your interest!
danny

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Jealous
 

Homegrown builds and everyone else's skills make me jealous:king:

such a clean build, just awesome!

Looking good.
Keep the updates coming.

Looking good, Danny. That serpentine setup is nice. Good luck moving forward!

:thankyou: :thankyou: :thankyou: :thankyou:


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It looks good!

thanks wayne!

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various bits and pieces starting to come together... and still doing a lot of detailing on original parts which have been bagged up since disassembly.

last night i worked on running the spark plug wires up to the distributor.

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still wondering where to put the ignition box.
it absolutely needs to be kept dry at all times...(that's a no brainer, eh?)
...and separated from the blaster coil as much as possible?
any suggestions here?
can it be safely mounted on the firewall above the heater box?

also been rethinking my plan to install hydratech hydroboost for the brakes.
i have read stories in some threads where people claim to be satisfied with manual brake set-up when properly adjusted.
it seems to be a matter of using a master cylinder with appropriate bore diameter and mounting the clevis on the brake pedal to achieve favorable pedal ratio.
baer is selling a very nice looking billet aluminum master cylinder which can be installed with optional bolt-on proportioning valve.
according to baer tech support it is adaptable to hydratech hydroboost but i would likely need a different diameter master cylinder bore if i wanted to switch it up later on down the line.
do any of you guys care to share your thoughts on this one... manual or hydroboost?
are there considerations to be taken into account that i'm not yet aware of?

and here is another issue i've been struggling to come to a decision on:
before my parents got the car the passenger side door was replaced with one from a 1969 car.
on the driver's side door i have a wing window and on the passenger side i do not.

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also, the 1969 door has a different interior door panel.
i have been able to locate replacement 1968 doors but getting one to alaska may be quite expensive and it's difficult to verify the condition of the parts.
some guys want to sell a door for $850 but won't even email a photo!
i really want the car to look right but i'm not sure how much i should be willing to lay down for this type of thing...
also really, really need to resolve this one before going to paint, right?

any opinions are welcomed and appreciated.
thanks in advance for your input!
danny

:thumbsup:

She's coming along Danny.
Engine is looking good. Keep'em coming.

Nice details!

Joe

Nice work Danny. Great project.

Andrew

Im no purist, but I love to see Pontiac iron between the fenders of a classic Pontiac!

Yes, a good spot to put the MSD box is above the heater box on the firewall. Some people also install them on the wheel well.

You should PM andrewB70 about the Hydro-booster. From my perspective I love it. Street driven - it really helps deal with the low RPM's vacuum issues.

Andrew is a knowledgeable person on all mechanical issues. He should be able to steer you in the right direction.

Keep up the good work. :hello: Who are you checking in on a for replacement door? I don't remember my sources off hand, but can look them up if needed.

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thank you!
i will definitely try to keep the updates rolling...

:gitrdun:

thanks!
one real good piece of advice i received for this project: "it's all in the details."

:thumbsup:

thank you andrew!
i appreciate the compliment.

:thankyou:


right on!
fenders coming soon!!!

:dance:


thank you roger!
the MSD box will probably go in the engine compartment above the heater box as you describe, or possibly on the inside of the firewall behind the glove compartment...
still thinking on it... and looking at a lot of pictures... and reading thread stories...

i am planning to order the hydratech hydroboost unit and the baer master cylinder monday morning.
i have more questions to get answered but based on what i've already been told it seems like that combo would stand a decent chance of working...
will also touch base with andrew to see what he thinks... thanks for the tips.

about the door, ahhh... i've talked to people at butler classics in wisconsin, frank's pontiac parts in california, and i've also searched dale's restoration parts and keep my eye on billions and trillions website too.

swapping the glass is also an idea, eh?
and i'm not particularly attached to the wing window in the 1968 door.
mainly, i just feel like both sides of the car should have the same glass.
here is the drawing of glass hardware for the 1968 door:

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roger, do you have the 'body by fisher' service manual for 1969 model year?
it would be so helpful to me if i had the picture of glass hardware for the 1969 door.
let me know please.
there must be a way for me to get the glass right without having to get a whole new door...

thanks so much for checking out my project guys!!!

:lateral:

danny