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Sonar Chief 10-11-2014 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 546480)
Thanks alot Leroy. Craftsman....I like that but im just a regular guy with a good welder and even gooder grinder. :hello:

Alot of inspiration has come from this site. Marquez design, Ironworks, BBT fab, RS, Troy's, Goolsby, B&B Classics, CHC, FAB53, JCG just to name a few. One of these days i'll have to take a vacation to go take a Lazze metal working class and put these great tools to work.

Right now im working on the rear inner wheel house structure and i'll post up a bunch of pictures when im done. If I planned it right it will support the quarter skin fully making it easy to remove or replace.

The thing that is taking the most time is trying to tip toe around old repairs and rust damage around the tail panel. It should be replaced but we have a track event to make in May. That's a can of worms to be left be for now.

Just a few pictures of the rear quarter work. The 335 19's take up a bunch of real estate. I pulled the front of the quarter then will contour the rocker to help direct the air around the tire. Also close up the gap a bit too.

I actually recycled the curved section of the old quarter panel that I cut off and used it as a flange to keep the new skin flush. Worked out great. It was clean so I tried it. Tacked it in and fit the new skin.


Vince .... been watching this build and have some questions ... I see the quarter panel cuts and how you reused the front section.

Did you english wheel the quarter or just pull it out to whatever you needed to clear the wheels? Does that method put stress on the quarter, I mean its not relaxed when you weld it in, is it? Or does that really matter?

Do you have a top looking pix of the quarter with the clecos installed?

Thanks for the pixs .... the car came out great!

Vince@Meanstreets 10-12-2014 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Sonar Chief (Post 573730)
Vince .... been watching this build and have some questions ... I see the quarter panel cuts and how you reused the front section.

Did you english wheel the quarter or just pull it out to whatever you needed to clear the wheels? Does that method put stress on the quarter, I mean its not relaxed when you weld it in, is it? Or does that really matter?

Do you have a top looking pix of the quarter with the clecos installed?

Thanks for the pixs .... the car came out great!
Hey Chief!

No english wheel work at all. Basically pulled the top out and pushed the wheel lip out then blended into the factory sheet metal and into a pushed out trunk drop off.
There wasn't much pressure. The panel from AMD is pretty flexible even more so with the fender lip cut off.

Down at the lower part of the quarter I left 2" of the old quarter and trimmed the new quarter to but up. Essentially adding 1 1/2" of metal to the lower sections of the quarter to make it naturally flare outwards. You can experiment with it before you cut too much metal. Try splitting it from the door striker and cutting just below the body line and slowly trim down till you get the flare you desire.

Sonar Chief 10-12-2014 08:35 AM
Thanks!
 
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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 573756)
Hey Chief!

No english wheel work at all. Basically pulled the top out and pushed the wheel lip out then blended into the factory sheet metal and into a pushed out trunk drop off.
There wasn't much pressure. The panel from AMD is pretty flexible even more so with the fender lip cut off.
Vince .... thanks for the pixs and the explanation, now I see what you are stepping in!

Thanks again.

Vince@Meanstreets 10-12-2014 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Sonar Chief (Post 573778)
Vince .... thanks for the pixs and the explanation, now I see what you are stepping in!

Thanks again.
Two things that I wanted to do was extend the spoiler and move the taillights. Next one I'd like to add side rocker exhaust.

Rod P 10-12-2014 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 573800)
Two things that I wanted to do was extend the spoiler and move the taillights. Next one I'd like to add side rocker exhaust.
OK!! ready to do a 68 Camaro Fat butt with side exhaust and mini tubs!

Vince@Meanstreets 10-12-2014 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Rod P (Post 573822)
OK!! ready to do a 68 Camaro Fat butt with side exhaust and mini tubs!
DO IT!! DO IT!! DO IT!! :theresa: :theresa: :theresa:


I think the rear rocker kick out would look bas add on a 68. With a nice stainless box tip.

Rod P 10-13-2014 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 573896)
DO IT!! DO IT!! DO IT!! :theresa: :theresa: :theresa:


I think the rear rocker kick out would look bas add on a 68. With a nice stainless box tip.
I was thinking the SAME thing!!!....and 12inch rims hanging out there filling up the well.......I just have to buy two fenders for the front....I am going to play with a stretch there to fit 12inch wides up front, the way we did the back quarters...before I decide completely

Vince@Meanstreets 10-13-2014 09:26 AM
Whats wrong with your old fenders? Just have them dipped and soda blasted.

payne 10-13-2014 10:07 AM
Vince-

I'm thinking NACA ducts where the rear windows would be great for brake ducting - what do you think? Or could you actually make the 3 fake vents in the rear quarter real vents for ducting (similar to a c5 z06)?

JP

Vince@Meanstreets 10-13-2014 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by payne (Post 573943)
Vince-

I'm thinking NACA ducts where the rear windows would be great for brake ducting - what do you think? Or could you actually make the 3 fake vents in the rear quarter real vents for ducting (similar to a c5 z06)?

JP
Either way would work very well. Let me know.

Flash68 10-13-2014 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by payne (Post 573943)
Vince-

I'm thinking NACA ducts where the rear windows would be great for brake ducting - what do you think? Or could you actually make the 3 fake vents in the rear quarter real vents for ducting (similar to a c5 z06)?

JP
Do you already have front brake cooling ducts?

Vince@Meanstreets 10-13-2014 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 573960)
Do you already have front brake cooling ducts?
not yet...

payne 10-13-2014 01:14 PM
Nope. Thinking about two options:

1) remove the driving lights for track days and have ducts behind them?
2) fab ducts outside the headlights - dunno if you'd get enough air into the corners?

Where else do people get clean air for first gen brake ducts?

Cheers,
Jason

carbuff 10-13-2014 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by payne (Post 573981)
Where else do people get clean air for first gen brake ducts?
I've seen people do them in the front lower spoiler. Should be a good higher-pressure area to pick air up from.

Vince@Meanstreets 10-13-2014 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by carbuff (Post 573989)
I've seen people do them in the front lower spoiler. Should be a good higher-pressure area to pick air up from.
we can take some air from that front vent or besides the front spoiler.

Flash68 10-14-2014 12:15 PM
Yeah I certainly wouldn't mess around with rear brake cooling until lots of other mods are done. Simple matter of priority I'd say.

GregWeld 10-14-2014 08:14 PM
My Mustang has front cooling ducts. And my Lotus has them at all 4 corners.

Sieg 10-14-2014 08:30 PM
Rout the front air through the subframe and possibly Anvil's scoops in the rear: http://anvilauto.com/products/camaro...el-scoops.html

There's also a pocket around the front leaf spring perch that may accept a small NACA duct.

payne 12-02-2015 08:48 PM
Vince-

I may be doing a private track day with some friends next week depending on the weather forecast (Will take my CTS-V if raining). We have a LaF, 918, and P1 coming out along with GT3 Cup cars, hellcats, etc. - should be super fun.

What oil do you recommend again? I'm an Amsoil dealer. Signature, Dominator, or Z-Rod? 10-30?

Thanks,
Jason

Vince@Meanstreets 12-02-2015 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by payne (Post 623435)
Vince-

I may be doing a private track day with some friends next week depending on the weather forecast (Will take my CTS-V if raining). We have a LaF, 918, and P1 coming out along with GT3 Cup cars, hellcats, etc. - should be super fun.

What oil do you recommend again? I'm an Amsoil dealer. Signature, Dominator, or Z-Rod? 10-30?

Thanks,
Jason
AMSOIL DOMINATOR® 15W-50 Racing Oil all the way!

how is that car doing? be sure to get some pictures at the event please.

payne 12-02-2015 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 623440)
AMSOIL DOMINATOR® 15W-50 Racing Oil all the way!

how is that car doing? be sure to get some pictures at the event please.
Car is great - puts a big grin on my face every time I drive it. I'm still very impressed with your work on her.

I started a new company this summer and am working from home and working 80-100 hour weeks so I haven't been back to the track with her yet.

You have any room in your shop in the next few days to prep her for the track day? Oil Change, brake bleed, pad change, chase a small oil leak in the oil cooler, chase an incorrect oil temp gauge, etc?

Thanks,
Jason


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