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ironworks 06-03-2015 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by FlameBroiled (Post 607348)
If Rodger really showed how much bodywork it takes to build a car of this caliber.... dust would be pouring out of all of our computers.

I guess Endless hours are better than Countless hours....$$$

Nobody understands just how much work it takes... until they do it? or Pay For it??

Keep up the good work!!!

Thanks


Its funny you say that. Just the other day I had a conversation with a customer about how much work we actually forget we did after the car is done. You don't realize 4 guys worked full time on 1 project for a 1 calendar year to do all the many things we forget about once its all done.

I'm just glad to have customers who understand enough to pay the bills and stand in line to build one car after the other. Both of these cars are going under the knife very soon for repeat customers. If I had the man power we would be starting on them now. That blows my mind more then anything.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...12-2014031.jpg

ironworks 06-04-2015 04:37 PM

1st coat of primer.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...2015%20004.jpg

tubbed69 06-04-2015 07:22 PM

Amazing work as always Roger,love these cars:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

hiwayman 06-04-2015 10:50 PM

Rodger would it be possible to detail the welding? the heat setting , pulse or no pulse , foot controller , tungsten size , hey thanks Darrin

ironworks 06-05-2015 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by hiwayman (Post 607511)
Rodger would it be possible to detail the welding? the heat setting , pulse or no pulse , foot controller , tungsten size , hey thanks Darrin

I'm gonna guess your meaning sheetmetal.

I find as a starting point you set you welder for every .001 material thickness with steel you run one amp. So .065 steel is set at 65 amps or .125 steel is 125 amps. This is just a base line for the amperage you can adjust with your with your pedal. So guys foot pulse the weld, so they will do 7 pumps and weld about 3/4 to 1 inch and cool it off with water or compressed air. Tungsten size really doesn't matter a bunch on thinner stuff but a small tungsten will carry a lower voltage a bit more stable and a big tungsten will carry a larger amp load for thicker material.

All of the settings and tungsten doesn't mean a thing if you can't cut and fit the sheetmetal tightly. If the gap is bigger it will require you to adjust everything and put alot more heat into the panel which will mean that it is more distorted then it should or could be. You have to do everything to minimize your heat. Put the least amount of heat into the panel means the less your gonna have to fix with a hammer and dolly or shrinking wheel or a rose bud.

When I bring a new guy in only let the guy tack parts together for a few weeks until I know he can control his heat. If he has to do these big ass tacks that have huge heat affected zones he is not going to be welding just yet.

Tig welding is all about fit up for all material thickness's. Fit up, Fit up, Fit up.

Dave Pratt 06-05-2015 08:03 AM

The way you chopped the body blows me away.The car looks sinister all slimmed-down.One of the best 55 builds I've ever seen...fantastic work by you and your crue...

ironworks 06-05-2015 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Pratt (Post 607538)
The way you chopped the body blows me away.The car looks sinister all slimmed-down.One of the best 55 builds I've ever seen...fantastic work by you and your crue...


Thanks I have wanted to do this to a 55 Chevy for years. Its a huge task and has to be done with in reason. Too much and it looks funny and to little and its a waste of time. We have done this to 4 or 5 cars over the years. If done right it give it a killer stance but most people will have no idea what was really done to the car. The front bumper on this car is physically 3 inch lower then stock in relation to the rocker.

WSSix 06-06-2015 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ironworks (Post 607539)
Thanks I have wanted to do this to a 55 Chevy for years. Its a huge task and has to be done with in reason. Too much and it looks funny and to little and its a waste of time. We have done this to 4 or 5 cars over the years. If done right it give it a killer stance but most people will have no idea what was really done to the car. The front bumper on this car is physically 3 inch lower then stock in relation to the rocker.

This is why you guys are some of the best in the business. As I said way back at the beginning of this thread, I'd have no idea what was done to the car if you hadn't shown it to us. I think in so many instances, the best built cars are the ones you almost don't realize are heavily modified when looking at them.

Al Moreno 06-06-2015 03:50 PM

I got to say Raga, you are really out doing yourself on this one.....

ironworks 06-06-2015 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by WSSix (Post 607627)
This is why you guys are some of the best in the business. As I said way back at the beginning of this thread, I'd have no idea what was done to the car if you hadn't shown it to us. I think in so many instances, the best built cars are the ones you almost don't realize are heavily modified when looking at them.

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Originally Posted by Al Moreno (Post 607633)
I got to say Raga, you are really out doing yourself on this one.....

Thanks guys. Like I always say, we can only be as good as the customer will let us. Greg is a great friend and customer. And he is hooked on cars real bad.

ironworks 06-08-2015 06:55 AM

Some engine progress.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...2015%20002.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...2015%20003.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...2015%20007.jpg

GregWeld 06-08-2015 06:57 AM

Bad ass!!

NOPANTS68 06-08-2015 07:09 AM

This has become one of my all time favorite tri fives- I dig the show car versus gasser vibe you guys injected into this build. Engine looks bitchin dipped in orange.

ironworks 06-08-2015 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 607758)
Bad ass!!

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Originally Posted by NOPANTS68 (Post 607765)
This has become one of my all time favorite tri fives- I dig the show car versus gasser vibe you guys injected into this build. Engine looks bitchin dipped in orange.


Thanks Guys. I'm not sure these pictures convey how bright this orange is. I love it.

jy211 06-08-2015 08:12 AM

the orange looks great, any idea on an interior color?:popcorn2:

ironworks 06-08-2015 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jy211 (Post 607774)
the orange looks great, any idea on an interior color?:popcorn2:


There is only one option for this car. Black with MAYBE white stitching.

hiwayman 06-08-2015 09:40 PM

Rodger thankyou on your reply re-welding , went straight out and got a foot control , will make a difference for sure also the actual technique the foot pumps cool the weld hey thanks again ohh the 55 what hasn't been said if I could grind up a weld like you guys id be happy

ironworks 06-09-2015 10:19 AM

Well it appears the 55 has already made it's first cover. I'm pretty stoked to see this long time vision I have had be so well received.

Cool stuff. Next months Street Rodder Magazine.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ne%20Cover.jpg

Swain 06-09-2015 10:42 AM

Congrats... That's Awesome news. Good job.

I was just looking at this months and thought it would be cool if they had something different besides a 30's street rod on the cover.

NOPANTS68 06-09-2015 11:02 AM

That car deserves it. It's different and has imagination infused in every part.

preston 06-09-2015 01:42 PM

Now I just need to know what the "underline deck" means.

"THE UNDERLINE DECK DESCRIBING THESE REALLY REALLY REALLY COOL CARS"

Reminds me of a famous quote from Derek Zoolander -

"I don't know, lately sometimes I think that maybe there's more to life than just being really, really, really good looking"

garret805 06-09-2015 01:46 PM

That orange block and heads is killer.

DBasher 06-09-2015 01:54 PM

Looks like GW's 40 is getting close also....

Car looks great Rodger, that Orange is something else! This is one 55 that needs to be seen in person.

65 347 06-09-2015 06:27 PM

Rodger
The amount of custom work you did to make it look stock is unbelievable!
Love it, great job, can't wait to see what's next.

Mike

Flash68 06-09-2015 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by preston (Post 607982)
Now I just need to know what the "underline deck" means.

"THE UNDERLINE DECK DESCRIBING THESE REALLY REALLY REALLY COOL CARS"

Reminds me of a famous quote from Derek Zoolander -

"I don't know, lately sometimes I think that maybe there's more to life than just being really, really, really good looking"

:lol: now that is funny...

ironworks 06-10-2015 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by garret805 (Post 607986)
That orange block and heads is killer.

Thanks, I kinda drawn to orange.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBasher (Post 607987)
Car looks great Rodger, that Orange is something else! This is one 55 that needs to be seen in person.


Quote:

Originally Posted by 65 347 (Post 608008)
Rodger
The amount of custom work you did to make it look stock is unbelievable!
Love it, great job, can't wait to see what's next.

Mike


Thanks Guys. My crew is really doing a great job with this project. I joke that we spend a lot of money making things look like there not there. It seems crazy to take some Billet machined do-dad and powder coat of paint it semi gloss black to make it look old.

ironworks 06-10-2015 08:33 AM

We are fine tuning the bodywork and trim fit up. The car is coming together nicely.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...2015%20005.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...2015%20006.jpg

We are trying to fix a few issues like these. This crap makes me loose sleep at night.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...2015%20002.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...2015%20001.jpg

dhutton 06-10-2015 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ironworks (Post 608060)

We are trying to fix a few issues like these. This crap makes me loose sleep at night.

Are you talking about the consistency of the gap or am I missing the obvious? I thought you had gap spray on hand to get your perfect gaps dialed in? :D

Don

ironworks 06-10-2015 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dhutton (Post 608067)
Are you talking about the consistency of the gap or am I missing the obvious? I thought you had gap spray on hand to get your perfect gaps dialed in? :D

Don

The gap on the trim is at a different angle then the hood line. Its a factory issue. But it still bugs me to no end.

The consistency also bugs me.

dhutton 06-10-2015 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ironworks (Post 608075)
The gap on the trim is at a different angle then the hood line. Its a factory issue. But it still bugs me to no end.

The consistency also bugs me.

I think the angle on the trim is determined by the draft angles of the casting. Not too much that can be done to avoid that sort of thing unless you modify and replate it.

Don

ironworks 06-10-2015 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dhutton (Post 608077)
I think the angle on the trim is determined by the draft angles of the casting. Not too much that can be done to avoid that sort of thing.

Don

There is nothing a welder and some talent cant fix.

dhutton 06-10-2015 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ironworks (Post 608078)
There is nothing a welder and some talent cant fix.

I've got the welder but come up short on the other ingredient. :D No shortage of that on your team for sure.

Don

GregWeld 06-10-2015 04:09 PM

THEY NEVER EVER FIT - as in EVER.... from the factory.... or from the aftermarket. Cut to cure. End of story. Big dollar cars make that in brass.... slim it down a bit - and make it fit like it's supposed to. '56 and '57 are even worse because they use a bigger piece there.

FlameBroiled 06-11-2015 07:07 AM

"Cut Modify Replate".... sounds like a TV show Dan Woods would host??

ironworks 06-12-2015 12:54 PM

Time to let this girl dry for the weekend.


http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...2015%20001.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...2015%20003.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...2015%20005.jpg

ironworks 06-15-2015 05:55 AM

I have had a few inquiries as to how we went about painting the engine and the aluminum parts like the radiator.

With the radiator and aluminum parts we typically send out the part to be powder coated with some kind of primer. This way they blast the tanks or aluminum parts and then coat the aluminum parts with a primer that is baked on. We have found this to work the best. The obviously don't blast the fins of those come back still clean. But you can do the surround and the tanks on things like radiators, and AC condensors. We also do it on anything smooth that is aluminum as we feel the "BITE" of the primer is better with the blasting and heat for the part with primer. We then stack any needed body work on top. Here are some parts we had blasted and primed that I have pictures of.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...2015%20009.jpg

Here it is with body work on a 2nd coat of epoxy primer. We are letting the body fill dry before sanding.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...uction-01l.jpg

You can see the top billet aluminum piece in primer. We really shouldn't have any body work on a billet part.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...2015%20006.jpg

Now the unpainted fins of the Condensor or Radiator in this project will get sprayed with Krylon to keep the cooling capacity to the highest level with the thickest paint. I had a guy at a radiator shop once tell me they cool better in black spray paint, not sure I believe him. But there is nothing worse then seeing aluminum fins through the grille opening of a car.

Now the engine and manifold parts go through the long deburring process. They are then shot in epoxy primer. The primer is given a good couple days to fully dry and since we are not body working the engine we shoot a minimum coat of sealer and the regular base coat clear. And really just enough to cover the engine.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...2015%20001.jpg


I help that answers your questions.

waynieZ 06-15-2015 10:58 AM

It came out really nice. Roger is there a clear that can be used over the aluminum by its self just to make the engine easier to keep clean?

ironworks 06-15-2015 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by waynieZ (Post 608588)
It came out really nice. Roger is there a clear that can be used over the aluminum by its self just to make the engine easier to keep clean?

If you mean over the polish aluminum, I'm sure there is. But we wont have much polished or exposed aluminum on this car.

They have some clear powder coat for polished wheels

windycitychev 06-15-2015 12:01 PM

It's awesome that it's finally getting some color but damn what a shame it looked sweet bare metal.

Darrell 06-15-2015 09:46 PM

🍊🍊🍊🍊🍊🍊🍊🍊🍊 can't wait to see some ORANGE paint on Gregs fiddy five


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