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RaceDeck 05-15-2020 10:49 AM

Well our project is moving along ( a bit slowly) - Should have suspension hanging soon along with the 5.2L Voodoo placed for some fitment
Mike Maier is crushing it on the parts and engineering

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Nlped47 05-15-2020 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RaceDeck (Post 703498)
Well our project is moving along ( a bit slowly) - Should have suspension hanging soon along with the 5.2L Voodoo placed for some fitment
Mike Maier is crushing it on the parts and engineering

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When I talked to Mike about my panhard bar setup, he told me a tiny snippet about your car, but it’s so much cooler! Mike makes some nice stuff, for sure.


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Boosted Falcon 05-20-2020 07:17 AM

Rocker arm rear suspension, that is trick. Looking forward to more progress photo's.

Nlped47 05-25-2020 03:31 PM

After changing to a trunk gas tank fill setup, I was getting a lot of fumes inside the car. So, I bit the bullet and added a II MUCH VSR Vent System to remedy the problem.

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syborg tt 05-29-2020 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Nlped47 (Post 703753)
After changing to a trunk gas tank fill setup, I was getting a lot of fumes inside the car. So, I bit the bullet and added a II MUCH VSR Vent System to remedy the problem.

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I will be adding this to my car also as I had similar issues.


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Nlped47 05-29-2020 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by syborg tt (Post 703914)
I will be adding this to my car also as I had similar issues.


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You’ll be amazed at how well it works. I got to the point that When I parked the Falcon, I’d open the trunk. But then my 40x50’ shop would it stink like gas. That’s all GONE!


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rustomatic 05-31-2020 03:43 PM

I used to listen to the tank popping in and out in the summer while the car baked in the garage; it sounded kind of like somebody giving the quarter panel a good slap. I've got about the most convoluted tank ventilation system now, but it works. The main thing was getting a -8 rollover valve in the top of my tank, then giving the vapors a sufficient landing place; we had some good discussion about what works with Sean's Volvo project. A modern fueling system makes this problem way worse . . .

Nlped47 06-14-2020 10:27 AM

Drove the Falcon to a couple of shows yesterday with no issues or weird smells.

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Nlped47 06-15-2020 05:25 PM

After driving the car some more this weekend & my wife driving it...her immediate response after driving it was, “its fast, handled good, but the brakes stink...fix them”. So, I ordered 13” 6-piston Wilwoods, 7/8” booster, proportioning valve etc today.


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Nlped47 06-26-2020 05:24 PM

Finally got the Wilwood brake kit, master cylinder, proportioning valve, etc. started on a dry fit on the brake kit and the inner bearings are the wrong I.D. Spoke to a ‘tech’ guy from Wilwood and now feel dumber [emoji15]

I think I’ve figured out how to fix it though.

Gotta admit that the new brakes should certainly work better! 12.88” rotor & 6-piston caliper vs. 10” Rotors and a 1-piston caliper. [emoji1787]

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Nlped47 07-02-2020 08:34 PM

What a cluster F@ck! But I finally sorted out the issues with this brake upgrade. Final test fit is done and it all fits!

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ScotI 07-03-2020 07:20 AM

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What a cluster F@ck! But I finally sorted out the issues with this brake upgrade. Final test fit is done and it all fits!

Do tell..... Always nice to know of possible issues.

rustomatic 07-03-2020 10:22 AM

Nice job surfing that slippery slope! As I recall, the "bolt-on" items usually always fit perfectly, with no additional effort required. There's that and a history of Wilwood bolt-on kits pushing the hub faces out about 3/8 of an inch or so, which is of course always a problem when wheel space is so limited. Did this happen with yours?

Dave Pratt 07-03-2020 11:00 PM

Love the car...great work.The stance to me is perfect.damn nice!

Nlped47 07-29-2020 12:04 PM

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Do tell..... Always nice to know of possible issues.


The previous disc brake ‘kit’ was a hodge podge of jankey parts. But I finally debugged the swindles and such so I could move forward on the Wilwood brakes.

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Originally Posted by rustomatic (Post 704774)
Nice job surfing that slippery slope! As I recall, the "bolt-on" items usually always fit perfectly, with no additional effort required. There's that and a history of Wilwood bolt-on kits pushing the hub faces out about 3/8 of an inch or so, which is of course always a problem when wheel space is so limited. Did this happen with yours?


Had the previously mentioned brake kit not been such a POS, I would have been done with the Wilwood install in just a few hours. The Wilwood kit does widen the track with by 0.25” per side, but the other kit was doing this too. So really it’s a wash. The current wheel/tire combo seems to work fine.

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Love the car...great work.The stance to me is perfect.damn nice!



Thanks Dave! I’m pleased with the car so far.


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Nlped47 07-29-2020 12:07 PM

Finally got the Wilwood brake kit onto the front. I shoulda done red calipers instead of black [emoji52]. Not really, but the black blends in almost to well.

But D@mn!!! The Falcoon now STOPS!!!

Next up is the a/c install. And the minitubs. And the narrowed rearend. And the rear Wilwood kit. And... it never ends. [emoji23]

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waynieZ 07-30-2020 12:36 PM

Nice looking car!

Nlped47 07-30-2020 03:22 PM

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Nice looking car!


Thank you!!!


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Nlped47 08-11-2020 06:58 PM

1963-1/2 Ford Falcon Futura
 
After driving it some over the last couple of weeks (~130 miles), I have diagnosed a ****ty handlin’, great braking car. So, I am going to be upgrading the front suspension some more. Global West lower control arms and strut rods are now ordered. I have a few upgrades up front already, so I think these pieces will be a significant upgrade.

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rustomatic 08-13-2020 12:27 PM

I had these same parts, once upon a time. The greatest effect seemed to be a big reduction in the standard cowl shake over expansion joints, and maybe a bit of caster addition. After that, and it may have been partly due to the fact that my last house was on a gravel road (very dusty--not much rain), the spherical bearings were not long for the world.

Overall, it's the geometry that will affect handling the most. These parts only affect geometry if you use the lower arms to add some caster, which can be quite an upgrade. Otherwise, car don't care what them arms be made of.

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After driving it some over the last couple of weeks (~130 miles), I have diagnosed a ****ty handlin’, great braking car. So, I am going to be upgrading the front suspension some more. Global West lower control arms and strut rods are now ordered. I have a few upgrades up front already, so I think these pieces will be a significant upgrade.

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jarhead 08-15-2020 07:32 AM

Really like the look of your Falcon, I had a 64 and a 65, great cars!

Nlped47 08-15-2020 05:19 PM

1963-1/2 Ford Falcon Futura
 
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Originally Posted by rustomatic (Post 705685)
I had these same parts, once upon a time. The greatest effect seemed to be a big reduction in the standard cowl shake over expansion joints, and maybe a bit of caster addition. After that, and it may have been partly due to the fact that my last house was on a gravel road (very dusty--not much rain), the spherical bearings were not long for the world.

Overall, it's the geometry that will affect handling the most. These parts only affect geometry if you use the lower arms to add some caster, which can be quite an upgrade. Otherwise, car don't care what them arms be made of.


I know there’s not a lot of ‘difference’ in the design/dimensions.

The strut rods didn’t come yet, but I had a hammered ball joint so I had to install the lower arms. But now that the lower arms are in, it’s obvious that the previous alignment is no longer even close which tells me that more was amuck. I’m not expecting anything overly incredible, but the stock lowers were worn out & I wanna go 100+ mph on occasion. So...done did. :)

But!!! I really want to sell this one, buy a 1st Gen 4-door wagon and do a full chassis (Roadster or Morrison) with an LS SWAP. Just my thoughts.


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Nlped47 08-15-2020 05:19 PM

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Really like the look of your Falcon, I had a 64 and a 65, great cars!


Thanks Jarhead. I love this ole car.


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Nlped47 08-17-2020 03:58 PM

Well, I’m still waiting on the Global West strut rods, but I went ahead and installed the GW lower control arms. Once I get the strut rods in, the Mike Maier shock tower brace installed and the Hotchkis upper shock brackets, it’ll be time for an alignment.

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Nlped47 10-06-2020 08:34 AM

Finally got the Global West strut rods and went to put them on & one of the big clevis nuts is missing [emoji15]

So, in a lull of no fun car to drive... I bought this...

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jarhead 10-11-2020 09:41 AM

^^^^^
wow!


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