Sorta? Hell I ordered everything this week. Not. Even. Kidding.

OK ... not the transmission. But everything else.

You guys will love it. Fastback 70 Mustang 77" wide, 335 slicks all around, low as heck, 700 hp & full aero. What's not to love?

:)

Well, if it's your design... it's gotta be good! :)

EGG SACK LEE !!!

Great design -- Great parts -- Great builder..... Charley is going to be SO JEALOUS!!

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If people only knew how much effort it took to get into that little Weldmobile.
Similar to Clill getting into a '69's trunk.

I know you're building a MEAN track warrior, but I hope you and Ron can find ways of tinkering on Ol Yeller just enough to keep it faster than AO. A slow AI car can't be the fastest in our group. That's just wrong.

That's funny...this weekend should be fun.

My favorite too. :Tomcat:

I won't be getting upset, or feeling bad for Greg. He has the $$$$ to build a nice LS and fix it when it breaks. :D

Well, it only took 13 pages of confusion to finally figure out what your doing Greg. I'm glad Sutton ordered the parts before you changed your mind again, and cut up the 40' pickup...:hello:

I'm just glad I'm getting the car I wanted to begin with, man your stubborn!!!!!!!!. It took weeks of constant ball bustin to get you on track. Gwen must wake up every morning and just roll her eyes back, and sigh.

How many times has the thread title changed?

Agree Matt!!

He's going to have to work real hard....

You know.... that might be a great idea!!! It (the '40) already has a LS in it! Pickup with big aero.... old school.... that could be very interesting! LOL






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I'm glad you aren't cutting up Old Yeller. That car is just too nice. It just does everything right. Looks like an old GT350 but is faster on track than most.

How often do you get to see a vintage Mustang out running a fully prepped Porsche at T-Hill. :king:

Greg held to his word and spun at T-Hill also.

:headscratch: maybe it's the orange glow in the rear view mirror throwing him off.

Is Ron going to keep you in front by tuning Old Yeller or by "tuning" AO?:lmao:

I've never finished a weekend track event without a spin --- ever --- I always manage to **** one part of it up -- cold track/cold tires -- cold me -- or push it just a bit too hard too early.... or I'm just a crappy driver. Whatever. I now have like the longest spin record in history.


Sutton is and was the magic behind Old Yeller.... PERIOD. On top of that - his driver coaching has helped me way beyond the amount of time spent doing this stuff. Without him I'd be back of the pack and struggling to figure it all out. With him -- I'm cranking hard on the cars I have -- and having a blast doing it. I owe him an amount of gratitude that money can't buy.


AO is better in spades ----- and we have yet to see the limits. You'll pass me soon enough.

Ron has made Old Yeller a magic car but you do drive the piss out of it. Or at least you do now.

In Rons own words, " I have won races with far less competent drivers than you Greg" so don't sell yourself short. You see what I did there, short :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

With the new car (what are we calling it?) I won't even have a chance in hell of staying on the same lap with my 335hp monster; much less a chance to pass.

How about the Stealth Bomber? Greg will be moving so fast he won't even be on your radar.

I think what he really said was ----- "I've won races with faster cars and much bigger men than you"



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The pesky Porsche -- that I THOUGHT was a Miata! I still laugh every time I think about it.... I just can't shake this stinking Miata! WTF is with that thing and who's driving it!!


Remember -- he's behind me -- and we're hauling the mail -- I don't have time to check out the review mirror other than to know there's traffic there.





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Gonna be fun if you keep the record going with the new car, because if you spin out 335's squared with Sutton engineering, you will be flying. it's gonna get real in a quick hurry!:eek:

People that don't spin - or have off track excursions - aren't driving hard enough.

When you're pushing the cars hard - you'll make mistakes and find yourself off line - or too late on the brakes - or have brake bias misadjusted - or your tires have gone away - or you've found the oil from the guy that just blew up in front of you.....

There is a BIG difference in driving hard --- and the guy that spun THREE TIMES and took the wrong part of the track all in the first session (he ran the crows nest when the track was set up for the bypass). He spun because his driving SUCKS... and his judgement skills SUCK. His "reasoning" offered for spinning was "I'm in a new car and I don't know the track".... REALLY!!! Then in that case don't you think you ought to go out and learn the car and learn the track before you start attacking it. DOH!! He was taken out of our group after the next session.

:D

Reminds me of the quote "if you aren't living on the edge, you're taking too much space." :burnout: :burnout:

1970 Mustang
 

Hans Stuck...race care driver made
a comment after running one of the euro tracks
that was lined with trees and bushes

"if you finish with both mirrors on the car then
you were not driving hard enough"

Bob

they probably need to do some more of that at those Shelby Club events....

The Shelby club operates with the exact opposite rule set as NASA...

Gregg,
I hope you know I'm not making fun of you, I'm laughing with you. With anything, how do you know if you are at the edge if you never push past it. Reminds me of many years ago when i started drag racing snowmobiles and I spoke with a multi time champion, and he asked me if I ever blew up my motor yet. I wish I could have seen my own face of horror because I just spent thousands of dollars I didn't have to spare on that motor. He then asked "well then how do you know if there's not any more speed left in it?"

Track Car
 

"Did you ever blow up an engine"

Reminds me of my first mentor when I started
Autocrossing... he always said pick up the trophies or
pick up the pieces.. I have blown up 9 motors in my firebird
and also have won many events, championships etc... but
back then motors were cheap and easy to get another one
at the junkyard... competition was not as tough as it is now either

Pushing things to the edge and knowing where that point is
what is really hard to figure out

Bob

Yup, knocked the ring lands off the pistons. Pieces floating around inside the cylinders at 10000+RPM make more than a couple of marks! I did learn from it.

I cant even find a website for F43, they change names? or go under?

The latter...

Yep -- gone like the wind...... Wait! Wasn't that a movie?? LOL


Besides -- I'm not tearing it apart anymore -- building a whole new car so Old Yeller can stay intact.

Never thought that at all. But remember you're not the only one reading. It's a public question and response. When I respond - my response always tries to answer questions that others may only be thinking.

Racing is hard (they call these TRACK DAYS - but that is only a cover for "I'm not really racing" which is complete BS) -- only those that haven't done it would think otherwise. I'm no good at it - am a total weekend warrior. I know this for fact. I have never thought otherwise. I have IMPROVED... I have pushed the limits when my limits were far lower. Now I push the limits harder and mess up "less" -- less is not making for a particularly great record. LOL

I will say --- when I spin now -- I expect it - and know why I did what I did. That's a HUGE difference than when I began. Now I usually know in advance the minute I've done what I've done. My experimental line trying to find more speed or carry thru - or my later harder braking zone. Sometimes it's just that momentary lapse - and at the speeds we're carrying - there is no momentary. So yeah - usually it's just bad judgement on my part and I don't have the skills to recover.

But damn I have fun!


I would add to this -- that the car got way better -- but I don't think I got better until I had some seat time and began to push it a bit. I had to take almost a year off due to the cancer issue - and then kind of got a second wind. Seems to me that when I came back -- things just began to work better for me. Then -- the car set up needed to change because I found the limits of the set up that "was". It went from neutral to "free" to loose.... these changes happen quickly on track. Free became loose within a couple laps as the "free" used up the tires quickly. You'd have loved to have been chasing me because it was a **** show for the ages! LOL Now.... I'm not blaming the car - rather - I'm trying to explain what people may not know or understand. A cars set up can be neutral - until you begin to drive it differently - then it can go to pushy or free or loose in a hurry. Once I put some more rear grip in the car - then I suddenly found "push" - but left it alone because it was balanced and I could "cause" the push. Mind you... we only get 20 minutes (about 9 to 10 laps) and sometimes there's traffic and you don't get to explore the track to the cars (or drivers) ability. We're out there with some real different drivers and cars. You can waste an entire 20 minute session parading around... and not get out of 3rd gear. My point is -- in all of my driving -- not all that many laps are done at max effort. The experience comes slowly....

So glad your widening the body. Looks so much cleaner than flares.
Happiest day of my life was when I figured out how I could do it and get rid of the monster truck fender flares.

That is why running in a group like NASA with full course open passing is the way to go. Parade laps suck. :shakehead:

Seat time is where it's at. How often do you think people are trying to tune their car for a condition their driving is causing? :bang:

Makes a lot of sense. :thumbsup:

Uhhhh. A lot. A whole lot.

Gotta tell you race guys ---- PRI (Performance Racing Industry) show was so much more "relevant" than SEMA for the guys that went.... We were in awe for 3 days! Plus we got to kiss the bricks at The Brickyard!!

Oh ----- and Ron Sutton walked with us and showed us all some of the trick stuff going in the new car... so just that was worth the trip!

If you've not seen one - or heard of one - check out PPG Sequential 6 speeds (we'll run non overdrive - just 6 close ratio gears).

There was so much cool stuff there is was a bit overwhelming! I saw things I didn't know existed.... and the staff at the booths knew racing and loved talking about their stuff and race cars in general.... It was just awesome weekend. COLD for sure!!

Have to agree! but i don't think we should talk about it any more or it will just turn into SEMA !! lol

who knew there were 25 companies that make BBC heads!! and 50 shock companies!!

Totally agree ----- Hey you "race guys" ---- NOTE: There were ZERO CORVETTE OR EVO parts there. Zip, Nada, NONE.


<that ought to kill any thoughts of attending>

lol @ Greg! :D

Sounds like a hoot and way better then a monkey on your head!

Can’t wait to see it come together, especially the aero and pneumatic jacks...
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