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WSSix 01-17-2024 07:33 PM

Agreed. I would use hangers that offer more movement similar to how factory hangers work.

Ketzer 01-18-2024 06:40 AM

I've only built a few complete exhaust systems from scratch like you did so I'm still definitely a novice at it, but I think it's a lot of fun figuring out! Also was hoping you would decide to run it all the way out the back....having ridden in several side exhaust cars, it sounds odd to my ears only hearing part of the 8 cyls. You will be happy having the sound and fumes at the very back of the car!


Jeff-

Cramer4918 01-19-2024 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ScotI (Post 725113)
It's hard to tell from the images.... What material is the tubing you used?

*EDIT*
Found my answer in post #111. I think you'll want to make sure the 'hangers' used allow for some fore/aft shift as SS likes to 'grow' when it gets hot. Certain sections will see higher heat vs others so allowing movement seems to keep things happy. Just my experience/s w/the material.

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Originally Posted by WSSix (Post 725122)
Agreed. I would use hangers that offer more movement similar to how factory hangers work.

I did not think about that. I appreciate the info. I will look into using a more traditional/OEM style hanger. The biggest issue I am running into is the clearance. I have tucked the exhaust up tighter than factory, so space is limited.

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Originally Posted by Ketzer (Post 725123)
I've only built a few complete exhaust systems from scratch like you did so I'm still definitely a novice at it, but I think it's a lot of fun figuring out! Also was hoping you would decide to run it all the way out the back....having ridden in several side exhaust cars, it sounds odd to my ears only hearing part of the 8 cyls. You will be happy having the sound and fumes at the very back of the car!
Jeff-

I agree, Jeff. I intend to drive this as daily as possible and I did not want the exhaust pumping out right by the windows. Nothing like a good dose of Carbon Monoxide while you're cruising!

srode1 01-21-2024 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Cramer4918 (Post 725013)
The journey for cutting the tubing was painful in the beginning. Making clean cuts on the pipe was challenging with a 6” angle grinder. Not to mention, getting the tubing cut square on the bends. Initially I wrapped painters tape around the tubing and marked them that way. Most of the time I would end up making adjustments to my cuts to get the ends to mate up properly. That was time consuming to the say the least. I then discovered the technique of using a zip tie cinched down around the tubing. You could move it however you needed along the elbow and mark it. That allowed me to get the my cuts marked perfect every time!
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It was like magic!

Another trick I learned was to use a tubing cutter. I found one that would cut up to 2 5/8” on Amazon.
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https://www.amazon.com/ICOOL-Tubing-.../dp/B0868G4BDK

It helped make the cuts perfect every time! It was a little difficult once the elbow got tighter, but it worked on the 30 degree elbows with no problem. I’ll see if I have any pics of that.

Hopefully that info helps whoever would want to tackle their own exhaust.


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Nice trick and cutter. Wish they made that cutter for a 3" stainless pipe.

Curious if you considered using an expansion joint and if so why you chose not to go that route. Great looking work BTW

Cramer4918 01-22-2024 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by srode1 (Post 725155)
Nice trick and cutter. Wish they made that cutter for a 3" stainless pipe.

Curious if you considered using an expansion joint and if so why you chose not to go that route. Great looking work BTW

Thank you for the compliment!

Are you referring to a lap joint similar to below pic?

If so, it is because the Builder’s kit I purchased did not have that option and the closest exhaust shop is an hour and a half away. That’s why I used the butt joint clamps.

srode1 01-23-2024 11:24 AM

I guess they are more commonly called flex joints. Like this one

https://www.jegs.com/i/Stainless+Wor...fDAr63fWGaMC0M

Cramer4918 01-23-2024 11:49 AM

I understand now.

I didn’t go with one since the majority of the systems I looked at did not have them. I figured between the fact the motor torques sideways and the length will be adequate enough to absorb the movement.

Someone correct me if I’m wrong pls.

ScotI 01-23-2024 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by srode1 (Post 725169)
I guess they are more commonly called flex joints. Like this one

https://www.jegs.com/i/Stainless+Wor...fDAr63fWGaMC0M

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cramer4918 (Post 725170)
I understand now.

I didn’t go with one since the majority of the systems I looked at did not have them. I figured between the fact the motor torques sideways and the length will be adequate enough to absorb the movement.

Someone correct me if I’m wrong pls.

The more rigid the set-up, the higher the need for a flex-joint within the exhust tubing.

The 'flex' sleeves are typically needed where exhaust routing is very tight for spacing. Set-ups like this are utilizing mounting bushings (those metal tabs/hangers w/the blue bushings) that minimize movement. That 'almost fixed' mounting keeps things from moving so the movement @ the motor has to be absorbed somewhere within the exhaust system or there will most likely be a failure/crack somewhere @ a joint on the tubing.

Exhaust set-ups that have more flexible mounting/hangers & more space (the old school rubber straps or bushings used in a floating arrangement) don't necessarily need the ability to flex within the actual exhaust tubing because the system has room to expand/contract/shift w/less bind.

Cramer4918 01-23-2024 02:31 PM

I understand and agree. I am planning on using the oem style hangers after what ScotI and WSSix stated earlier to accommodate for expansion and flexion. I believe I left enough room where it's needed, but we shall see.

If not, I'll have to regroup and may have to add a flex joint.

Cramer4918 11-06-2025 03:44 PM

Been a while since my last post. Life has been happening along with progress. BISKWIK has been on the road and is a blast to drive! It still isn’t finished yet, but I don’t want to park it to work on it. [emoji1787]

Anyhow, here are some pics of progress.

I installed a transmission cooler for the 4L60E. I had to find a place to mount it and then made some mounts and had them welded onto the cooler.

Of course, I had to modify the cooler to fit in the area in front of the core support.
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Cramer4918 11-06-2025 03:49 PM

After getting the mounting position of the cooler, I had to find a way to route the lines. The Command decision was made to use bulkhead fittings through the core support. [emoji51]


Here goes nothing!!
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Now to get from Point A to Point B….

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Didn’t turn out too shabby if you ask me.
And yes, I did all that without removing the grill.


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Cramer4918 11-06-2025 05:48 PM

I went ahead and upgraded the front suspension even more. I picked up a set of Global West tubular A arms and Viking coilovers. Man, what a difference!

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Future plans will be to reinforce this ‘62 frame hiding in the back forty to eliminate a lot of the flex. I am considering the current frame under the car as the “mock up” frame.
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WSSix 11-08-2025 08:35 AM

The cooler did turn out well. Good choice with the bulkhead fittings. It is very clean looking.

Che70velle 11-09-2025 07:00 AM

Good job Matt on the cooler lines. Super clean.

Cramer4918 11-09-2025 07:03 AM

Thank you, Trey and Scott! I hope it will help get some longevity out of the 4L60E.

Cramer4918 12-01-2025 01:42 PM

For my next trick, I wanted to mount the Vintage Air controller. I was trying to decide on mounting it on the “not there yet” center console.
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Or dare I cut a hole in the dash and put it here.
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A Command Decision was made and I decided the dash was going to make a nice home for it. Wish me luck!
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Not too shabby if you ask me.
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Cramer4918 12-01-2025 02:07 PM

I got the controller wired up and the trinary switch sorted out so it would play nice with the Holley system.

IT WORKS!!!!
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I don’t know about you all, but I’m not a fan of the vents that come with the Vintage Air kit. They just look too much like an afterthought.
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So, I purchased some vents for a Camaro and commenced to mock them up for the dash.
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I did not get a before pic of how the bezel sat against the dash, but let’s just say it took some massaging to get the contour right. I’ll try to remember to get one before I get the driver’s side done.

Finished product….
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Big question now is do I paint the bezel to match the dash and leave the vent chrome or do I leave it all chrome. Thoughts? :headscratch:


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ScotI 12-02-2025 07:59 AM

If the paint match is on point, paint the housings if you feel the 'all chrome' housing is too much.

But if the color is even slightly off, it would be an eyesore & bug the sh!t out of many/most.

Looks good/decent in the posted image.

214Chevy 12-02-2025 08:24 AM

Very nice work...I like it!

WSSix 12-06-2025 07:00 AM

Agreed. I like your idea of painting the housing if you can do it correctly. It looks nice all chrome. Mismatching the paint will look worse.


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