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carbuff 10-22-2023 08:05 PM

Mark,

A couple of quick questions about that intake setup...

What throttle body is that?

Is the air cleaner base bolted between the throttle body and intake for mounting?

And finally, does it clear the fuel rails without a spacer?

I used that same intake manifold and fuel rails, and I struggled with making a Trans Am shaker base fit. Wish I had thought of this idea. Very slick! I do prefer a cable connection between the throttle pedal and TB though - not a big fan of the DBW setups in the cars I have driven. Presumably with a good tuner it shouldn't be an issue though.

jeff71 10-22-2023 10:36 PM

Correct me if I’m wrong Mark, DBW for cruise control?

Stielow 10-24-2023 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by carbuff (Post 724384)
Mark,

A couple of quick questions about that intake setup...

What throttle body is that?

Is the air cleaner base bolted between the throttle body and intake for mounting?

And finally, does it clear the fuel rails without a spacer?

I used that same intake manifold and fuel rails, and I struggled with making a Trans Am shaker base fit. Wish I had thought of this idea. Very slick! I do prefer a cable connection between the throttle pedal and TB though - not a big fan of the DBW setups in the cars I have driven. Presumably with a good tuner it shouldn't be an issue though.


The 90 mm throttle body is off a LS3/7.

The DBW set up allows cruise control, tunable throttle progression, no linkage and no idle air control motor.

With some tuning it feels good, or I’m used to it.
I also hate the feel of cables and solid mechanical linkage is problematic.

The new LT torque base engine cals do have poor throttle response. It can be calibrated to be better but not as good as the PFI cals.

Mark


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Stielow 10-25-2023 01:22 PM

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Seat pans are in for good after the transmission cross member reinforcements were installed


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Stielow 10-25-2023 01:24 PM

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Filled a few things on the firewall. We are using Vintage Air so no need for blower motor hole.


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Stielow 10-25-2023 01:26 PM

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Moved the driver side quarter panel back to the stockish location. It was pushed out 3/4 of an inch when is was a drag car. Looks like a sled hammer deal. Matt fixed it.


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syborg tt 10-25-2023 02:32 PM

Wow this car has some beautiful patina

Aschle 10-25-2023 04:57 PM

I am very interested in the transmission crossmember. You can see the tabs poking through the floor, and the mount itself... Can you shed light on what the topside looks like? I would love to get ideas for my own car.


Beautiful build as always !!!


Jason

Stielow 10-25-2023 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Aschle (Post 724418)
I am very interested in the transmission crossmember. You can see the tabs poking through the floor, and the mount itself... Can you shed light on what the topside looks like? I would love to get ideas for my own car.


Beautiful build as always !!!


Jason


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This is with the seat pan off.


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Stielow 10-25-2023 06:19 PM

We have done this trans mount before on 4 Camaros. No issues so far. Makes a super clean set up.


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EVIL SS 10-26-2023 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Stielow (Post 724420)
We have done this trans mount before on 4 Camaros. No issues so far. Makes a super clean set up.


Do you make mounts or brackets to mount your Recaro seats? Also, are you using 6pt bits? Where have you found it best for the mounting points?

Stielow 10-26-2023 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by EVIL SS (Post 724423)
Do you make mounts or brackets to mount your Recaro seats? Also, are you using 6pt bits? Where have you found it best for the mounting points?


We make the adapter from the stock seat pan to the Recaro seat tracks. I’ll try to find a photo.

For the sub belt we modify the seat pan to allow for it to be bolted in.

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Aschle 10-26-2023 02:25 PM

Thank you for the reply. I am absolutely going to be using that method. Super clean, simple, and it works !!!

On a side note, whoever is doing the welding on the car, is an artist !!!

Jason

Stielow 11-10-2023 11:42 AM

At Sled Alley today.

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srode1 11-11-2023 01:15 AM

Shortened the tank? How much will it hold now?

Stielow 11-11-2023 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by srode1 (Post 724575)
Shortened the tank? How much will it hold now?


We will add an extra tank to get the capacity back up to 10 quarts.

Yes we had to shorten to fit.


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Steve68 11-11-2023 08:11 AM

Mark, how level is the car when the sub frame connectors are installed on jackstands??

I have mine within an 1/8 of an inch, was wondering how the guys set that up,

jeff71 11-11-2023 10:23 AM

Mark,

Why the change in tank locations this time?

Stielow 11-11-2023 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by jeff71 (Post 724579)
Mark,

Why the change in tank locations this time?


Attempting to keep it simpler. Doing the dry sump tank in the cowl is very cool, but it is a ton of fabrication. Matt and Tom did it like this on Tom’s orange 69. It looked cool and I had a stock 2008 Z06 dry sump tank laying around from an old project, so we did it that way.

This is a cruiser build and not a track monster so not worried about weight distribution.


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Stielow 11-11-2023 11:34 AM

Hobbs Camaro (Old Drag Car)
 
New tires.

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Trying the Continentals. Michelin quit making a 335/30R18

Stielow 11-14-2023 08:01 AM

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Modify the tank


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jmac 11-14-2023 08:27 PM

Very cool!

Can you please show us how the tank is supported up front in the wheel well?

Also, where would you place the other tank in order to bring it back up to 10 quarts capacity?

Thanks!

Stielow 11-15-2023 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by jmac (Post 724614)
Very cool!

Can you please show us how the tank is supported up front in the wheel well?

Also, where would you place the other tank in order to bring it back up to 10 quarts capacity?

Thanks!


Working on it! I will post photos when we get to that point.


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Stielow 11-15-2023 05:57 AM

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The car was clean and rust free, but its life as a drag car had some wear and tear. Matt is repairing all this rag tag stuff.

Before we can finish the dry sump tank mounting the front clip needs to be on the cast and square.


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HRS 11-15-2023 07:54 AM

Another great looking build Mark. I was looking up some of your other Camaro builds last night and found this.
New partnership to build more Camaro's?
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Of-Course...hite/564143209

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camcojb 11-15-2023 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by HRS (Post 724623)
Another great looking build Mark. I was looking up some of your other Camaro builds last night and found this.
New partnership to build more Camaro's?
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Of-Course...hite/564143209

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Thanks for posting. I showed that to Mark, he got a laugh out of it lol.

Stielow 11-15-2023 09:52 AM

Hobbs Camaro (Old Drag Car)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by camcojb (Post 724625)
Thanks for posting. I showed that to Mark, he got a laugh out of it lol.


Seems very odd to me. Not sure the meaning?

To quote Lillard - “Nobody cares”. Lol


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Stielow 11-16-2023 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jmac (Post 724614)
Very cool!

Can you please show us how the tank is supported up front in the wheel well?

Also, where would you place the other tank in order to bring it back up to 10 quarts capacity?

Thanks!


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Stielow 11-16-2023 03:47 PM

We test fit the “new” wheels.

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Stielow 11-16-2023 03:48 PM

Hub caps or no hub caps?

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214Chevy 11-16-2023 04:30 PM

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Hub caps or no hub caps?

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Hubs if you ask me. I love that look...

bulldog19 11-16-2023 04:33 PM

Hub Caps!

ataves1 11-16-2023 04:36 PM

Caps for sure.

thedugan 11-16-2023 05:21 PM

Caps for sure. They look ripe for a Matt custom cap modification. The old Corvette flat rally caps would also look nice IMHO.

camcojb 11-16-2023 05:39 PM

Hub caps for the win!

jeff71 11-16-2023 07:07 PM

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Definitely with. Although I’m biased I’ve been a long time fan of the caps.

214Chevy 11-16-2023 09:27 PM

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Definitely with. Although I’m biased I’ve been a long time fan of the caps.

:flashie::flashie::flashie::flashie:

fleetus macmullitz 11-17-2023 05:07 AM

Normally I’m a huge fan of caps. Posted a lot of vehicles with them over the years on here. :thumbsup:

But for this particular car, no caps really adds to the nasty/mystery/raw look of ‘what’s this thing got under the skin’ with it being a patina car.

If it was a full paint car, then I’d prefer caps.

EVIL SS 11-17-2023 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Stielow (Post 724644)
Hub caps or no hub caps?

Caps but, they are to shiny and clean.

NOVA 11-17-2023 09:04 AM

No Caps


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