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Sieg 09-13-2012 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkM66 (Post 435814)
Yeah, go roller.

And ZDDP is just a lot of hype. There's more to oil protection then the amount of zddp it has.

Roller in the 383, not this short block.

The car has only had Castrol GTX 10-40 since 1990 and just the last change was Shell Rotella 10-40. FWIW

intocarss 09-13-2012 05:36 PM

For flat tappet cams I ran the Rotella or Delo, I have heard that they took some of the additives out if that now too...

Joe Gibbs

Red Line &

Brad Penn all make good oils for hod rod engines

Or Red line or Lucas break in additive all work good in flat tappet cam engs

BUT this is a good excuse to go roller :unibrow:

WSSix 09-13-2012 06:47 PM

I figured you'd run good stuff like Red Line, Motul, etc but just wanted to make sure. It's all because of emissions requirements that ZDDP had to be lessened in the oils. This goes for diesel oil now too.

GregWeld 09-13-2012 08:28 PM

Scott --- I have a couple sets of roller lifters -- yours for the taking -- which will save you a few bucks if you want to go to a roller motor....

Sieg 09-13-2012 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makoshark (Post 435782)
Go roller.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkM66 (Post 435814)
Yeah, go roller.

Quote:

Originally Posted by intocarss (Post 435900)
BUT this is a good excuse to go roller :unibrow:

I'll gladly accept donations! :unibrow:

The budget that wasn't there in the first place is getting stretched due to the opportunity pulling the motor created with what I consider priorities - Getting the AFR heads installed.

Then I found out:

The replacement Hooker header oval ports created a curb with the D-ports that IMO would make the headers no better than exhaust manifolds with matched ports. Still wouldn't bet the Doug's 368 headers will fit and for additional insurance ordered a mini starter and ARP bolts.

The lifter valley coating installed on the block buy the builder in '89 had restricted a couple of lifters and torched two lobes on the cam.

That 5 piston skirts were scuffed on one side but with no impact on diameter but required new rings.

That a few rod and crank bearings had also experience some sort of contamination which called for all new bearings. Unsure of the contaminate or source...K&N filter maaaybe? Keep in mind 9K miles in the 23 years I've owned it.

Then the non-insurance items like guide plates, studs, springs retainers, replacement guages, new valve covers, ARP fastners, carb, header, starter upgrades, etc. leaves me at least $2+K over insurance coverage.

I'll save the additional roller cam expenses for the 383 that's built to be abused.......provided the economy turns our market around and we can recoup three years of losses. :thumbsup:

How's that for a short answer? :rofl:

Here's my hi-tech motor this afternoon:
http://sieg.smugmug.com/Cars/69-Cama...IMAG2849-L.jpg

http://sieg.smugmug.com/Cars/69-Cama...MAG2847-XL.jpg

http://sieg.smugmug.com/Cars/69-Cama...IMAG2846-L.jpg

Sieg 09-13-2012 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 435930)
Scott --- I have a couple sets of roller lifters -- yours for the taking -- which will save you a few bucks if you want to go to a roller motor....

Greg,

I really appreciate your generosity, but I've already commited to the regrind to expidite the process since time is money to the two shop owners. I also know that I like the grind of that cam and it should only get better with the manifold, carb, iginition, and heads. After all it's just another dime a dozen Camaro. :D

The timing with the bankruptcy issue and obtaining emergency operating capital, then death of my partner and all the corporate requirements associated and a funeral tomorrow has made what should have been a fun process somewhat of a pain though I'm still trying to enjoy it because I'm alive even though I've been averaging about 4 hours of fragmented sleep a night the last two weeks. :yes:

Guarantee you one thing I'm ready to take a long drive in the big rig and play pit beotch and get abused by the Cali Boys. :thumbsup:

GregWeld 09-13-2012 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 435935)
Guarantee you one thing I'm ready to take a long drive in the big rig and play pit beotch and get abused by the Cali Boys. :thumbsup:




Now we're talking!!! You're on!!


I was pit Beotch to this the other night in Salt Lake City --- Rocky Mountain Raceways -- for a couple of test and tune runs... it brought back good memories of 40 years ago I can tell ya!



Blow this up to full screen and increase it to 720 --- I just took it with my iPhone....

732 Cubic inch - two stages of nitrous --- THAT will put a smile on your face!




Sieg 09-13-2012 09:45 PM

NICE!!

Those new camera's that are mediocre phones are pretty impressive. :yes:

PS - Anyone every mentioned you have a real tall shadow? :D

67zo6Camaro 09-13-2012 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 435932)
I'll gladly accept donations! :unibrow:

http://sieg.smugmug.com/Cars/69-Cama...IMAG2849-L.jpg

Oh man, I know you're building something special. But, when I saw this container of parts, My mind went crazy about what I could weld together. Especially that gear drive that's pop'n out at me. I know!, Im a little demented.

:captain: Im just say'n

Sieg 09-13-2012 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 67zo6Camaro (Post 435942)
Oh man, I know you're building something special. But, when I saw this container of parts, My mind went crazy about what I could weld together. Especially that gear drive that's pop'n out at me. I know!, Im a little demented.

:captain: Im just say'n

LOL! It ain't that special, it's just a mediocre Gen 1 355 that will hopefully be just a bit above average when all is said and done.

The way it's been going I'd probably find great satisfaction in welding all those together. Even that old school Pete Jackson gear drive. :thumbsup:


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