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GregWeld 01-21-2013 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 459571)
Reality is rules and background checks only work with law abiding individuals. Though they also lay a road map identifying landmines for non-law abiding individuals.

Those with a need that cannot pass the paperwork and background check procedures resort to alternative resources. Their wait time depends on their connections, local market inventory, and budget. Those connections can also be informants providing information on households that have guns that are easy burglary/robbery targets.


That is EXACTLY why mine are stored at all times unless being transported - in this - bolted to the floor - and the shed has a motion sensor that is silent. Note this is a BURGLARY and Fire safe. The door is half an inch of steel...


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realcoray 01-21-2013 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 459571)
Reality is rules and background checks only work with law abiding individuals. Though they also lay a road map identifying landmines for non-law abiding individuals.

Those with a need that cannot pass the paperwork and background check procedures resort to alternative resources. Their wait time depends on their connections, local market inventory, and budget. Those connections can also be informants providing information on households that have guns that are easy burglary/robbery targets.
Of course out of the 1.3 million people turned away from background checks already, some got guns through other means and would continue but basic economics would come into play in that getting one would be harder.

They could certainly still get one, but the investment would go up significantly, either in terms of actual $$, or in terms of risk to secure them and most likely both.

Many would still go for it, but a not insignificant percentage would either be unable or unwilling to try to get a gun and I'm willing to be inconvenienced slightly for that.

Z10ROD 01-21-2013 06:15 PM
so to get back on point I think we all agree its the CRAZIES that must be kept up with. its a no brainer our 2nd amendments rights are NOT at stake. its all the rest of them ??? warrantless wire taps. due process . why would we get all up in arms over back ground checks but let the government into our private lives ?? we have become a police state.:idea:

Vince@Meanstreets 01-21-2013 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony_SS (Post 459539)
Who here lives in a state where they don't require a background check to buy a gun?

I've never heard of that. Here in MO, that is the protocol, even at a gun show, despite what you hear about those 'gun show loopholes'.
I know in Florida some jurisdictions do not require a back ground check.

all purchases are

California
Colorado
Connecticut
Illinois
New York
Oregon
Rhode Island

hand gun only states are
Hawaii
Maryland
New Jersey
Pennsylvania

You can walk through a gun show in Nevada and buy a gun without a back ground check.

Vince@Meanstreets 01-21-2013 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 459507)
How do they think they can accomplish controlling current ammunition stock-piles? Go back to tunnel-rat tactics used in Vietnam, or door to door property searches? :lostmarbles:
by preventing us from buying more. Think I may buy an air soft rifle to use for target practice. LOL

Sieg 01-21-2013 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 459659)
by preventing us from buying more. Think I may buy an air soft rifle to use for target practice. LOL
Lack of proper planning on your part doesn't constitute an emergency on my part. :mock: Still have that motor as trading stock? That strategy would exploit the faults in their system. :rules:

Vince@Meanstreets 01-21-2013 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 459660)
Lack of proper planning on your part doesn't constitute an emergency on my part. :mock: Still have that motor as trading stock? That strategy would exploit the faults in their system. :rules:
:sieg: im good....just shoot less....LIKE I HAVE TIME!!!! LOL

yeah, trade the engine for 5000 rounds of 5.56 LC M855 :thumbsup:


Ask greg if that extreme standing mat is for when he stares at himself in the mirror, admirering his collection or cause he keeps forgetting his combo. LOL

Sieg 01-21-2013 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 459667)
:sieg: im good....just shoot less....LIKE I HAVE TIME!!!! LOL

yeah, trade the engine for 5000 rounds of 5.56 LC M855 :thumbsup:


Ask greg if that extreme standing mat is for when he stares at himself in the mirror, admirering his collection or cause he keeps forgetting his combo. LOL
Just out of curiosity M855 or M855A1? :popcorn2:

:headscratch: It could be a prayer mat.........for accuracy in time of need.

Vince@Meanstreets 01-21-2013 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 459670)
Just out of curiosity M855 or M855A1? :popcorn2:

:headscratch: It could be a prayer mat.........for accuracy in time of need.
"what else do you have in the warehouse?"

Vince@Meanstreets 01-21-2013 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 459670)
Just out of curiosity M855 or M855A1? :popcorn2:

:headscratch: It could be a prayer mat.........for accuracy in time of need.
oh, green tip only, brown will clash with my ammo cases.


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