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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 555451)

One of the few remaining threads that wasn't all jacked up. Past tense.

Well done fellas.

:action-smiley-027:

Ah, the pile on...

This is like Ken Block lecturing Vaughn Gittin, Junyah on his driving style. :shakehead:

:D

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Originally Posted by cosmo meant it (Post 555352)

Yep...to 'Sutton's Secret Sauce Cafe & Warehouse'

:D

It's Doctor Ron's Hot Rod Bar & Grill ... in my dreams anyway.

:cheers:

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 555373)

So wait..... All this time has past.. and the total update was that you've installed the upper ball joint??? LOL

Okay.

Dale.... have you stroked out on us? Are you feeling alright? Fever? Pulse?

:warning: :lol:

LOL. It's not Dale's fault the car's not back together. It's mine ... sorta. I used a special Howe ball joint housing that allows us to use a much bigger ball joint pin for strength reasons. The factory ones are tiny. Cute ... but tiny.

Anyway ... Howe makes these new lower ball joint housings that fit in 67-69 F-body & '64-'72 A-Body lower control arms ... that fit a much larger, beefier, ball joint stud. I assembled the housings with the correct height stud ... adjusted for zero friction ... and sent them with the total package. When Dale got back from his trip & went to install them ... they slipped right into the LCA ball joint opening with no press fit. :thmbsdwn:

My "WTF" conversation with Howe led to a curious & disappointing answer. Most of the racers running "stock appearing" lower control arms in racing series across America ... are using new stamped LCAs that are foreign made ... that have the BJ hole TOO SMALL. So Howe made this particular ball joint housing smaller ... to fit the imported LCAs. And now ... they don't properly fit accurately made in America LCA's that have the correct lower ball joint size. :warning:

Grrrr. So we're giving the import crap priority? Really?

Anyway Greg ... this reminds me of the conversation we were having earlier about new stuff not fitting.

For anyone that cares ...
The factory BJ opening for the AFX LCAs should be 2.000"
Most ball joints for these LCAs are 2.003"-2.005" for a .003"-.005" press fit.
The new bigger Howe BJ housing was 1.984"

It wasn't a big deal to fix it. I just got 2 new new Howe housings (that use the bigger studs) of a larger diameter & turned the base down to 2.005". Shipped them priority to Dale today.

:cheers:

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Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 555389)

He nailed the rear shocks for me with His "Secret Sauce". I was driving on the street after geting it all put together and some guy at a stop light was begging me to roast the tires. Amazing how the car felt at launch and throughout the burn out with the new shocks comaored to the QA-1's. :thumbsup:

Those rear shocks you have are super trick.

My secret sauce high rebound/digressive valving for rear shocks for more grip ... which is VERY different than the high rebound/digressive valving front shocks need ... is only part of this equation. These particular shocks have super low stiction & ultra fast piston/shaft response speed to increase grip over the typical irregular track surfaces. So when the shock needs to respond 5-10 times per second to keep the tire contact patch at 100% ... this shock can do it.

Part of the reason this is possible, is based on the inner design of this particular shock. It allows us to run ultra low gas pressure without cavitation issues. If I said how low we run the gas pressure, most knowledgeable shock guys would not believe it. That is another key to why those shocks provide so much grip.

You said you needed a lot more rear grip. :)

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Originally Posted by Ron Sutton (Post 555502)

That sounds just like something that would happen to Lance... Try to do something simple to make something better than it was originally and it turns into a clustermess.

Glad the fix wasn't too cumbersome. Can't wait to see this project come together.

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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 555346)

looking good. thats some serious shheet right there. I think Gaetano's dreams were just shattered. LOL

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Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 555347)

Was wondering when you were going to turn up. That's some stout hardware. Looking forward to seeing it come together.

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Originally Posted by intocarss (Post 555350)

Lookn great Dale!! :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by rickpaw (Post 555365)

:thumbsup:

Looking forward to hear how the new parts work out.

Tu

Thanks guys... appreciate the comments!

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 555373)

Lol... I'm okay. I really have done quite a bit of work. It will all come together very soon!

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Originally Posted by cosmo meant it (Post 555401)

Good Ron must be real busy sending truckloads of that sauce out. :thumbsup:

I'm glad that I got some of the sauce :cheers:

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Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 555417)

Unlike many of us Dale is actually busting his butt at work and on his car.

Unlike a few he's actually making noteworthy progress too!

Thanks Sieg... I plan to have the car ready so we can meet up at the historic races again this year.

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 555451)

One of the few remaining threads that wasn't all jacked up. Past tense.

Well done fellas.

:action-smiley-027:

No problem!

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Originally Posted by SSLance (Post 555507)

Thanks Lance.

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Originally Posted by Ron Sutton (Post 555502)

I just got 2 new new Howe housings (that use the bigger studs) of a larger diameter & turned the base down to 2.005". Shipped them priority to Dale today.

:cheers:

Thanks Ron... appreciate that!

Also... I been working on some other upgrades to the car recently. I'm building a new larger spoiler with a splitter similar to the one shown here on "Big Red".

http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6068243b.jpg

The spoiler comes back around the side (hard to see in the pic)

http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/...ps0e4a2283.jpg

I've been wanting to improve the aerodynamics on the car so this is a start... I like the looks of this design.

:cheers:

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Originally Posted by Ron Sutton (Post 555502)

Are these the LBJ's that have the sevicable ball/stud right? Is there a stud spec chart available? Ive been looking but haven't found it.

Can't wait to see more Dale!!

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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 555521)

Are these the LBJ's that have the sevicable ball/stud right? Is there a stud spec chart available? Ive been looking but haven't found it.

Can't wait to see more Dale!!

Try this: https://www.howeracing.com/p-7939-ho...its-k5103.aspx

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Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 555522)

Try this: https://www.howeracing.com/p-7939-ho...its-k5103.aspx

Thanks Scott, i have that but im looking for stud specs.....I think I have an idea.

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Originally Posted by Ron Sutton (Post 555504)

Ron, shhhhhh! Too much info here...