Yep, they also hunted mastadon. AKA cave men. :bitchslap: :mock: :stirthepot:

Ouch….. Well…. that's not going to buff out.




:lol:

If my tuning screw driver's hard drive fails I can fix it with a file. :mock:

WHAT!! NO WIFI HERE, NOW WHAT DO I DO :confused59: ;)

:catfight: :lmao: :lmao: Sometimes you just want to get out of your comfy surroundings and camp, sit by a fire; bike, hike or surf the surroundings. Rough it for a few days just live a simple basic life and unwind.

I don't remember saying a carb was always better than EFI but sometimes, maybe in those times of seeking enlightenment by living simple, outdoor plumbing or a carb is superior.:mock:

To me that is what a hot rod or PT car is about. It's simple, raw, obnoxious in ways, and quirkey at times. Something you can tinker with with the simplest of tools and experience to dial in.


If I was motivated to build a comfy luxury cruiser like a 57 Caddie I'm sure I'd opt for FI. But I am not building a daily driver or something I even want to be refined and smooth.

There is something about dialing in your 4bbl or pair of 4bbls that I like.

There is something to be said about the sound of a NA motor breathing through those carbs.

All of it is part of what I want from a PT car.

I don't wear a digital watch either even though it's more efficient.:lmao:

Ron having EFI doesn't make you a weenie but there are EFI weenies. If you can't tune your own but profess it is better than a carb in every way you may be showing symtoms:lmao:

So I did get a chance to clean up my tunnel cutting and remove all the dash and wiring. Even with the motor set this far back you can see I have plenty of room for the new footwells. There is also a bunch of room up under the dash.

This will make building the cage way easier. More so for Brett than me since he will be doing al the welding on the cage.

It may not look a lot different than the previous photo but it is progress.

:cheers:

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Once in a blue moon I just gotta agree with you. :D

:thumbsup:

+1

Very well said. :thumbsup:


Missing the wood grain vinyl and vent look yet? :D

I tune efi cars for a living, of course I have to bust balls when the carb comments start flying around! :smiley_smack:

Hell it was just 15 short years ago I was cruising around in my 70 Chevelle with a dual quad roots blown big block. It had some good qualities......like......well.....8mpg :poke:

:)

Injection is nice, but I'd rather be blown!!! :hello:

Rob,


At least this car is interesting enough to where your fellow gearheads are tryin' to 'help' you make sure that you build it...correctly.

:tv_happy:

Now that's a cool pic, I always thoroughly enjoy progress pictures. Looks great bud!:popcorn2:
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1969 Torino
 

Rob,
Stick with the carb and get to the dual
quads as soon as you can.. Gas Mileage??
are you guys kidding me..Just make sure the
tank is big enough.. The guy with the C-10 truck
approx 850 hp at Optima was worried about running
out of gas on the cruise.. 3 miles per gallon and I thought
my 11mpg babying it and 5 on the track were bad

How far is the motor set back now??
also can you still get the valve covers off?? looking close

My firechicken valve covers barely clear the braces
Been working on the Shaft system for that car.. waiting
on push rods from Smith Brothers

Good to see you working on the car

I remember a guy who had dual Suzuki carbs on his
Mac engined go-kart... both carbs fed to the same manifold
port.. looked cool but it didn't make any sense.. wish I had
a pic today.. the things you remember when you were young

Panteracer Norcal Bob

If he were building it "correctly" It would have a BBC in her :snapout:

GOOD WORK ON THE TUNNEL!

i wouldn't even put dynamat in it, let the thunder roll buddy. No sweeter music like those quads opening up on the FE. :stirthepot:

1969 Torino
 

My 1965 GT350R Clone had no head liner or flooring,
Etc. Thunderhill on a 100 plus day would cook you
The floors on a hot day would almost melt your shoes
Some Norcal Shelby boys had some lightweight liners
scewed to the floor. Weight savings sometimes takes its
toll on the comfort zone

That car was light and fast but white with blue stripes
matched most at the track so I finally sold it

Panteracer NorCal Bob

And Jim that is why you are NOT an EFI weenie. But since I am I will stick with my carb(s) for now.:lmao:

It's worth a look every once and a while eh Skippah? :relax:

Thanks Lenie. It seems to be missing something in comparison to your interior. I just can't quite figure out what it is.:headscratch:

Bob We moved the motor back 7.5" from where RS had it. Since I wanted to fit myself in the car, as part of the exercise in determining where to place the motor, I just asked RS to mount the motor without cutting the firewall. CA to IL isn't a trip I have time or $$ to be making on a regular basis. My bellhousing nip also let me put the motor lower than they did. They did a really nice job with the parameters I left them with.

Good eye on the VCs. Right now they are too close to the cowl. But after looking it over from the inside yesterday I have a plan to gain enough clearance to remove the covers in the car and still have enough grade to drain any water that would make it into the cowl in a rain storm.


I have a 22 gal ATL Fuel cell. On E85 I should get a cruising range of about 75 mi :( Oh well it's all about compromise. :D

I'm sure I'll get even more range out of the duals.:lmao:


JD Sometimes you are right on point other times you are off the reservation.:snapout:

Joe I couldn't agree more.

On the other hand do you think it is really possible to muffle the sound of a dual quad 496ci TP?

I am actually planning on :secret: on the floor boards and :secret: for the rest of the interior.

To keep the heat off my feet I have a plan also. :D

I got some more parts into inventory tonight. They all look good and passed the sniff test.

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^^^^^ That's Just Bad Ass!!! ^^^^^

Keep posting progress pics and you're going to ruin Dave's holidays. :shakehead:

This car will make a name for itself with it's mucho 'badazzedness'.

:D

Like I said it passed the sniff test. Thanks JD. Glad to see you flying straight again.

Now Sieg, :shakehead: I wouldn't want something like that to happen:whistling: :_paranoid :whistling: :lmao:

:cheers:

Don't worry. I just talked to Brett and we are :secret: and then we'll :secret: after he does :secret: ... man I can't wait.

Rob, now there's some wise words coming out ya mouth. :thumbsup:

1969 Torino
 

Engine backset at 7.5 inches!!!
sounds like a midengine..Detomaso should have thought of it
I have a buddy who built a roadster
4th gen camero with the aircleaner under
the dash.. he has a few removable panels
for access

I like it

Panteracer Norcal Bob

Bob, how could you?! :buttkick:

...Says the guy with Ford stripes on his Camaro.

1969 Tornio
 

Flash at least I didn't say he should cut it in half
and put a Pantera on the backside.. but I sure
was thinking it.. move that motor back any further
and he will be sitting on it:knokwood:

Panteracer

clean up on aisle six :lmao:

Or he could have just bought my Lotus 2 Eleven.

I know where his head would be, but where would his feet go? :sieg:

Not a bad idea, I hear those are disposable :_paranoid :underchair:

:cheers:

They sure as h*ll ain't kid-proof. :D

Hey Greg,

Wad's new with you?

Oops, wrong :wrongforum:

:hello:

:peepwall: :confused59: :peepwall:

Maybe I'll check the 'Body wadded up' forum for progress reports on Greg's lil Loti..

Ok...back to Rob's '8 barrels blazin' build. :thumbsup:

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :military: :hello:

Hey Rob, good to see some progress pics. I pushed my motor back through the firewall also, but just 5 inches. I am still able to use the stock cowl panel but the firewall will be under the cowl panel a little ways. I did 67 nova with a big block pushed back a few inches and made the cowl a removable piece to access the dist.. Is that kinda what your planning or is the cowl going to become the rear of the hood?

1969 Torino
 

Except the dizzy is in the front on a Ford
so that access is good unless you have a
Pantera and the damn thing is on the wrong end:superhack:

But a Chebby motor is just not right in a Ford
but my buddy has a Cleveland in his Camero
dry lakes car doing 187 plus. now that is ok

Panteracer Norcal Bob

Good chassis, good engine.......put the shell of your choice over it and drive it!

:D

SO when is the 5.4L DOHC MOD MOTOR going in your wreck :hello: :bigun2:

I'm a firm believer in ford car ford engine...Gm car Gm engine and Chrysler car Chrysler engine.....Every other car....Who cares.....

I'm 7.5" back from where the motor was but that actually puts the back of the motor about 4-5" behind the old firewall so probably the same as where yours sits.

We will rebuild the bottom of the cowl panel to allow for clearance of the valve covers but no need for access through the cowl panel.

The firewall itself will have an access panel to get to the bellhousing bolts so I can get the out without removing the engine.

Bingo on two points Bob.:thumbsup:

:y0!: Yea Sieg when are you making the move? :D :mock:

:cheering: That's the way I feel, but to each their own.:D

Everybody has the right to :censored: their project up however they want as long as it makes them happy. :popcorn2:

:cheers: