I don't know Dave personally, just through a couple of PMs from yellowbullet, but I like his style...

I've figured out where my pictures are on my computer so I'll get the '68 thread going soon. Heck it's been nearly three years since I blew up the big block that was in it, a few weeks to get a thread going is nothing!

I miss racing my shifter way more than I miss racing the big car. The big car make all the right sounds and looked super, but noting normal people can afford does stuff right like a shifter kart does!

The combo of my size, my kids sports and Track Magic and SCK going out of business sort of put the kibosh of karting for me. I still have 3-4 chassis out in the garage, I sold all my ICC stuff, but still have a Rotax that hasn't been fired up in probably 2 years...

When I was a kid, my neighbor had a badass '69 Torino GT. I loved the car. Sounded right, looked right, everything a kid needed to love a car. When I was 21-22 I got talking to his cousin about the car and he said "you know he had a '68 before the '69" and I asked what happened to the '68... Turned out it was out behind his parents barn. I think I paid his dad soemthing like $500 bucks for it.

Both the cars were red, with a black interior. I swear it must have been the only color Dearborn painted those cars!

Oh shoot! The Cleveland that was in that car came out of Dom Farbo's 71(ish) Torino. He's the guy that just had Ring Brothers build that Blizzard Mustang! Wow... Completely forgot that! Small world I guess.

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-h...hvX65bf-XL.jpg

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:snapout:

Rob is a bad influence. I may soon be a Ford man X2. :stirthepot:

David.

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:D

David is that as good as it looks?

It was raining. It actually is in really good shape. 69 Cobra. 1198 built. 1 of 2 console cars. And the only one with AM radio with previous mentioned console. 428 cobra jet with 4 speed. The guy has documentation with certificate signed by director of Ford in 2013. I'm still pessimistic. But it may be the real thing. I'd leave it alone if I bought it. :D

:thumbsup: Good Luck!

Glad I could help:D

That is pretty much the holy grail of stock 69 fairlanes right there. It has all th right trim pieces and black is a great color. All it needs is some poverty caps. :trophy-1302:

Nice job Sieg :thumbsup:

I'm unfriending you JerDog.:twak: :lmao:

NO YOU WON'T :grouphug: :gitrdun:

Payton

Remember when I picked this little gem up? :relax:

It's been a while but I finally got around to posting some pictures of it.

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For those that weren't with us in the best place in the world to go shopping, Mooresville NC, it's a NASCAR spec locker with Gleason REM polished gears and a Tex racing internal pump driven off the pinion.

When I was there I couldn't resist purchasing a better air box than the one I had. I paid to much for it but it was new, natural carbon, light as hell and well a NASCAr part. I was like a moth flying into a light just couldn't stop myself.:rolleyes:

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This week another couple parts showed up. Nothing special just some brake ducts from LG. But they will be cool.

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I've been down at the shop a couple days a week last month. I pulled the rear housing and suspension out and trimmed up the rear wheel lips. My inner wheelwell and my quarter, unlike a camaro, opens up and has more clearance above the wheelwell lip. So the lip is the closest point of contact.

I trimmed it back to .25" thick. Then it mates with the inner wheelhouse going vertical from the remaining lip. I'll get a couple of decent pictures of it next week. But the tire has nothing but a flat wall to rub against.

Today I put all the suspension and my wheels back in and cycled the suspension through full compression and full compression on one side with the other side at varying heights. Here is a picture of the closest the tire gets. This is about ride height on the drivers side with the passengers side fully compressed. At this point the top of the tire is tipped out and the widest part of the tire is right at the closest point of contact to the body.

Matt A likes to call this the Hell fit clearance.:lol:

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WOW! That tight. Nice!

Nice parts. And great original ideas. I had all of those a long time ago. :lol:

Fact:rolleyes:

It was the fact that you dared to step outside the box and build a first gen Camaro that inspired me to build my car.:lmao:

Oh ya just haaaaad to go there didn't ya. :computer:

Hey no one forced you to take the 5 year plan instead of the 3 year plan. :D

You pitched the softball. What was I supposed to do but swing for the fence.:headscratch:


Who do you think I am Weld? I need to work during the day and save my pennies to pay for this Sh:censored:t so I can spend sleepless nights working on it.:lmao:

I didn't want to let Matt down. He counts on me to represent the hellaflush movement on Lat G.:D

I used that exact same pile of parts on my Mustang. That third member looks exactly the same, pump and all. My only advise I would give, is to take that soft locker out before you install it, there is NOTHING soft about it. Its action was so violent in the turns when it engaged and disengaged that it upset the car. A few times when I was on the ragged edge it started to spin the car. Just my experience, and I was running street tires, replaced it with a Waveloc which worked great. Sucked, had to resaftey wire all those ARP bolts.

I can show how to fix those tire clearance issues, it only requires sawzall and a welder. LOL

Rob, I am just happy to see that the center section (would be called a C section in Dave's thread) make it back to CA. I thought for sure it would have exited the bottom of that rotted storage box on the side of the truck.

I am not too far out picking up one of those myself.

I have the same center section with pump. For now I'm leaving the pump off but I'll post up when I get running to see how violent mine is. I'm hoping I got lucky and have the softer springs but assume they will need to be changed


You're lucky you have straight panel on those qtr's and not a small flare to hang things up. What's going to be your next car...a Toyota, Nissan or Honda?????

Now thats tight !!!

I learned on my recent road trip ---- that a locker rear end wants to push the car STRAIGHT when you get on the gas and lock it up. Brian Hobaugh was having to be patient and WAIT to get back into the throttle after doing those crazy U turns in the Auto X....

While we know that we're not supposed to be back on throttle until we are "straight"... Another guy we all know -- Danny Popp -- has a funny motto -- "never straight - but always forward". BOTH of these guys are about as fast as a guy can get. Completely different driving styles.

Funny the little things you learn when hanging out at the right places. The Mustang has a locker -- and I never knew about the "pushing straight".... now that I know -- I can either make it work for me -- or at least understand what is going on and become more patient coming out of a turn.

I have plenty of experience with safety wire pliers. I even got a new set last year.

I bought a set of Ron Sutton's 40lb springs. I'll give the locker a try as is and then probably swap in Rons no so secret ingiedient to obtain the desired results.

I know I can count on you for extreme body mods executed in a Shinoda style so I'll keep that in mind:lmao:

Well I had to make sure the apple pie was safe in the storage container so the rotted box was the only spot left. I think there was more danger of DG and I falling through the floorboards :lmao:

I waiting for Dave to inspire me again. When he does I'll let you know.

It is tight no doubt. I am looking to maximize the stuffed look. :lmao: Remember that picture is two things.

1. Showing the tire at its widest point with the axle tipped at the most extreme angle bringing the top of the tire out twords th quarter.
2. Purposely taken from a "shock value" perspective.

345s in the rear and a NASCAR locker this car should push through a turn like the delta wing. I might as well make it a three wheeler :confused59: :confused18: :lmao:

That trip was enlightening. You also learned about tires, generators, GVWR, energy levels and how many hours actually exist in a week to get stuff done :lmao:

:cheers:

Not to worry --- it'll be great at the Texas Mile and Bonneville.....

One of those is on my to do list. :flag2:

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:D

I'm liking the progress! The center section and air box are nice pieces. :thumbsup:

Ah... so a mini van it is......

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I think the locker's bad rep of pushing really has been a result of these high rate springs inside most of them. I have no proof because it's never spec'd or discussed in our circles (or any circles I could find) but that's my theory. I'm glad I stumbled on to Sutton's discussion on it and bought his set.

Some people love them and others hate them but I don't think most even know why.

And I believe a Torino fits about as many people (kids) as a minivan.

This banter has got my LOLing
:tv_happy:

Dave

Patients has never been my strong suite. I've run many locker in drag cars, with no ill effects, they do exactly what you want them to do. Its the road courses that I hated, stab the brakes coming into a turn, modulate the throttle through the turn, midway through the turn while on the ragged edge the locker would engage, upsetting the car(and the driver)started a 70mph drift. I never lost it, but came close a few times. Waveloc has smooth as butter through the turns, and grabs good when wide open throttle.

Who knows, maybe its my driving style, I'm always driving beyond my ability.

good to see the updates

This is essentially how all my conversations came out. I talked with many people before I grabbed my locker from Roush a year ago. It really came down to personal preference and driving style. And none of us really know until we try it out.

Sounds like your waveloc has worked out for you. I have read nothing but problems with those things and people going back to true tracs.

You should have just bought a NASCAR while you were out there. It would have been less expensive and you'd be driving now. :lol:

J/K Rob.....glad to see some progress :thumbsup:

It is funny how much conflicting info flies around on all the different sites. I have no real dog in the fight, just trying to keep someone from having the same headaches I did.

Can tell you I've seen 1500 hp thrown to a waveloc with stickys with no issues. I have personally swept up the shrapnel, and spent a lot of time cleaning crap out of axle tubes when the truetracs let go. They were stupid HP, slick cars, that should have been running a spool.

I do laugh at myself, hating that locker, but loving the dogring box. They are equally as violent, it just seems you can finesse the trans driving it right. The rear does what it wants when it wants. In the end a good driver can make anything work in his favor, but I ain't that guy.

That's good because you probably don't have a medical license.... LOL

I'm loosing my patience with you making me feel stupid, that's twice this week.

I did get a good laugh out of it though!!



Can't remember what I was texting the other day -- and the autocorrect made me say something else... and I didn't read it before I hit send... and then it's like --- DANG IT!!

Takes two more texts to correct it.

This has got to be the second best racing quote I've ever heard next to Weld's "What turn did you lose talent in"

Been waiting for some updates Rob. Looking good, the rear tire is right where it should be.
I run Detroits front and rear in my Bronco and there is nothing like......
"Steering by Detroit"
Is that pump in the 9" just for the cooler?
On some of the race cars I used to work on we used an external pump and dry sumped the diff and trans similar to an engine setup.