That blemish on the piston skirt---that's a problem. I'd get another motor.

Like an LS3 with cobwebs all over it?

What brake set up is on your car now??

Had Wilwoods 13"/6 piston front and 12"/4 piston rear. Drilled and slotted. Sold them to a fellow Road Touring Customs customer building a 68.

that's like CSI work there. Did ya do the black bolb and dust test also?:lol:

Hey you're not supposed to shoot the messenger. :lol:

I like your pistons....

Glad to hear your moving forward again Dave. :thumbsup:

Congrats on the new motor. I wont even recognize this beast when its done! Excited to see what changes are to come. :thumbsup: Sweet brake set up by the way.

I bet you do, Panama Red. :lol:

:cheers:

Thanks RTC brother. Hopefully get this pile of parts back together so we can all convoy down to RTTC in March again. :lateral:

Motor schmoter, this makes my pants dance! :hail: :hail:

Yes, Thank you Dave.. now we gotta get them onto my car!..and that would be a 67' . :captain:


You got it rollin' now.. keep up the momentum!.. on that beastie motor!.

Sent that request today!..

Been wonderin where you have been. :woot:

67! My bad! Oh the horror! :willy:

And mucho gracias. :cheers:

Speaking of Dick Trickle and Nascar (thanks Todd)....

For those remotely interested in Nascar based builds, here are 2 PHR articles that have inspired me and informed me along my way.

http://www.popularhotrodding.com/tec...r/viewall.html

And the evil twin sister (being a Ford makes it my sister) to my SB2.2 -- found in PHR's Project "Max Effort". Nearly identical (minus the water/meth injection) it is within 1 cubic inch and 5-10 horsepower of mine with a nearly identical powerband as well.

http://www.popularhotrodding.com/tec...d/viewall.html

Hey...I got one of those also..:rofl:

The wife asked me the other night at dinner what was in the big plastic bag that has dust all over it in the back of our garage...Oh I said something like a $8500.00 Visa card gone bad.

Dinner was a little better after the third full glass of wine...

-Jim

WELL:question: :question: :question: :question: :question: :question:

Give him time to finish the ironing.

:D

:lol: You and Dr Fresh outta hang out.

I think the yard and house work is stabilized. Moving on to the car. :)

I have done a lot of research over the past year on fire suppression systems and finally landed on one. I chose this one for the following reasons:

more nozzles (6) than most (2-4 on average)
2 pull cables (many have just 1)
non toxic
cleans up easily with water (supposedly)
SCCA and FIA approved (standard equipment on Ferrari Challenge cars)

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...8/IMG_0003.jpg

Looks like a smart purchase. I think I'll follow your lead on this one. :D

Dave, glad to hear things are settling down now. A fire suppression system, you're not messin' around man. Incidentally, I heard Soundgarden's new song tonight, have you heard it?

Yeah buddy! :thumbsup:

Thanks dude. I have been in a car that caught fire (luckily at low speed on the street) and it was not fun. This is a small price to pay in the grand scheme for added safety.

I have the new album pre-ordered and it comes mid November. Have not heard the new song yet. I will have to check it out.

I'm just stoked someone wants to talk about Soundgarden! :D :cheers:

me as well.

Smart move Dave :thumbsup: I went with the economy version

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/MIS0002.jpg

You won't get any arguments from me regarding the validity of a fire suppression system. http://sieg.smugmug.com/Cars/69-Cama...IMAG2664-M.jpg

Where did you get your system?

Glad you're getting your home maintenance routines stabilized. :thumbsup:

Yea DG post the link :D

https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/pr...asp?RecID=9730

Thanks Rob. The two HR3 2.5 lb. HalGuard hand-helds I'm considering are $260.

Dave where do you plan to mount the bottle, nozzles and triggers with this system?

I think he is planning on the bottle in the pantry and the majority of the nozzles over the center island.

Good point, by now he probably doesn't need them over the bed.

:lol:

Bottle in the rear seat area behind passenger. Thinking 1 in the trunk over cell, and either 3 in engine bay and 2 in driver compartment or vice versa.

Pegasus is a nice source for stuff.

:D Thanks for the info. :thumbsup:

My little fuel ball incident had me wondering what and how could the firewall be breeched. Fuel, oil, engine drivetrain grenade, etc.

At speed airflow will force liquid and flame toward the firewall.

If the wall is breeched footwell nozzels wouldn't be a bad idea IMO. Would the potential mess created in the interior compartment make you think twice about discharging the system?

Is one enough to cover the fuel cell?

What scenerio's would compromise the fuel cell, rear end/brake failure, fuel line/pump, major impact??

Having a bottle system and a good hand-held for minor incidents has merrit.

Very interested in hearing the fire suppression options and reasons.

i dont... so lets not!:D

You want steel between you and any fire. Aluminum
Sheet patches in the firewall will melt around 1100 degrees, steel at 2300 degrees.

All thoughts I have been going through over the past year.

Many systems just cover driver and engine. My cell has a 20 gauge steel container and my car has an aluminum (not sure of gauge) rear firewall.

Major rear impact or a rollover would be my biggest fear.

Still will have my 2.5 lb hand held behind my shifter.


And these fires reach what temp?

You need to put a fire out at it's SOURCE.... so where the fuel is...

That can be oil on a header if you're unfortunate to be up-side-down.... or fuel spilling out of the tank... from a breach... or a busted fuel line.

Or --- Give yourself enough time to wake your sorry ass up and get out of there!


I worked 3 years at Portland International Raceway (drags) and I've seen fires in all kinds of places.... and every time --- people would waste an extinguisher pointing at the flames -- when the source was under the car etc...


I'd be spraying an "automatic" system in the engine compartment -- and a couple in the driver area to give an exit... or give yourself enough cover time til the crews get there.

^^ Absolutely. That's why I wanted maximum nozzles and 2 pull cables. Wanna hit every possible area.

1 pull cable for both the driver and a passenger and on or near the A pillars so a track worker or someone could pull it too.

And I'd think fires are under the hood so that's why I was thinking 3 nozzles there -- 1 over each header and maybe one to the carb/intake.

for petrol based fuels: the highest expected consistent temperature should be somewhere around 900C (about 1650F) with fluctuations measured of up to 1250C (about 2280F). (out of one of my textbooks)

NHRA:9.3 ( I know, I know NHRA)

Nozzle placement is extremely important; two nozzles are placed at the front of the engine, one on each side, and one nozzle is located in the driver compartment near the steering column, minimum.

a decent starting guideline though.

Matt

FWIW - In my situation a somewhat major fuel system leak ignited and lead to a pressurized oil leak that was sucked down the bell/trans tunnel.

I was going 60 mph max, at 120 with more fuel and oil it could have been interesting.

Good stuff Matt. Yep, another key is to not aim the driver nozzles too high toward your eyes or face (waist and below I've read).

That is def scary. I was only going about 30 or so when my engine fire started.

Wasn't that bad, but a major engine grenade and oil fire could be without proper preparation. Especially if you're unconscious and the safety workers are slow to respond. Factoring the scenerio's and precautionary measures is interesting and challenging.

F1 in the 60's :wow: