Agreed.

The the heart, soul, and ultimate example of competitions like this from my perspective is the owner/builder/driver cars.

If I was someone with "unlimited" revenue and limited ability and had a desire to be the center of attention or accepted in the crowd outspending the true enthusiast would be easy prey. Buy a GTR send it to a top tuner, give them an unlimited buget and hire a hitman for a driver.

Well thought out Classes of Competition is probably the best solution to the issues as the event gains popularity.

In no way do I see the event dissolve due to dissension. The techie Vette's, Benz's, and GTR are very impressive but I have much more respect and appreciation for hands-on cars like Mark's, Brian's, Mary's, and numerous others.

I'm sure those tools would never comprehend that there is more money in these "old cars" that run with and beat vettes than was in the car Popp drove. This statement may not be true in every case, but I would say more often than not! And yes, the only driver permitted should be the registered owner!

Don't feel bad D they had it coming. :thumbsup: :lateral:

You're a rabid anti-shortite! Next thing you'll do is hand out flyers urging people to put them in their own schools!

LOL---The sea was angry that day my friends---like an old man trying to return soup at a deli.

Wish I could find that vid clip---

D

Google is your friend. Actually, as we now know... not at all.



No ones asking for Popp to autograph that Titleist!


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Hum I'm guessing a cab after all those super light shoes help them get traction while running after it LOL,,,,, oh wait Dr. D,,, was that the tall one bending over to pick up a lost bus token LOL....
^5 buddy the sawed off little pricks needed a little reality check anyways (no pun intended LOL).....

Hey Doug, like what your daughter would have said...lol. One of my 4 yr old son's favorite lines is "seriously??" and would have been appropriate. In all seriousness, some people will never figure it out and it takes all kinds.

Oh NO !! The Corvette guy has stopped lurking and joined this board.....:)

I think there are some misconceptions here and people harping on one single comment, that I should not have made. Awful easy to take things out of context , try looking at page one of the thread on corvetteforum also.

Yes, I got "rich by winning the lottery" , and fielded a C6 Corvette at this years OUSCI, and I guess that I am guilty because we won with a "new" car. Nevermind any of the other new cars there this year, or that have competed in years past. Last I remember, this is not a Pro-Touring event, but a search for the Ultimate Street Car. I have watched this event as said for several years before I earned my invite. This was a privateer entry too, not some "in house" car or manufacturer car. With way less resources than some of the other top 10 cars.

Some of you have judged without knowing anything other than hearsay, and because I fielded a new car this year, I supposedly have no love for the older cars . Those that have cast stones do not know me very well. I am in FACT a lover of all cars, especially Chevrolet's, NEW and OLD. I cut my teeth in OLD GM products , C2's,C3's and 2nd gen Camaros. I still have the 1972 LT-1 Corvette and it will be making venues later this year. Brian Hobaugh remembers the car and knows that it is not slow. This Pro-Touring movement gives me an excuse to play with that car too and it will be a great time.

While I did make an off-handed comment , about the "autograph" on the side of Mark's car, I did not disrespect the fact that his car is an AMAZING piece, it is very well sorted, FAST , beautiful, well engineered and driven. I just thought the "autograph" was slightly grandious. I should not have said what I did, and for that I am sorry. Mark is a very worthy competitor, a great champion and is very worthy of all of his followers. I admire his creations myself and I am sure that I will continue to do so. With that said, Brian, Mary, Mike, also have built awesome cars as well as the other 90% of the cars that were at the OUSCI.

It seems as if some here are operating with chips on their shoulder because they run "old" cars and sometimes they let "new" cars run with them and then the old cars are at a distinct disadvantage. Well, I can tell you that mentality is not completely true. If any of you care to read page one of the above mentioned corvetteforum thread, I ran a bunch of the top pro-touring cars in July for the Chevy Hi-Performance Magazine shootout, and I was faster in three of the Pro-Touring cars than I was in Todd's Corvette. Testiments to the potential of some of these builds. I will agree that on a roadcourse the newer cars will enjoy an aero advantage, but that is it. No one with any of these builds is limited with suspension geometry, power, or technological advances such as ABS or TC. As the years progress the more mainstream this is going to become.

Anyhow, I did not come on here to create a war. Just to clear up some misconceptions and apologize publicly for the off-handed comment that I made on the corvetteforum about the "autograph". Again, sorry Mark and all on this board.

well, their cars haul ass................. :lol: I think Danny was just being funny, don't think he really was taking a shot at Mark. My reply over there was just to answer a guys question regarding hiring a pro to drive your car for you.

Danny's a pro level driver, as is Mark, Kyle, and a few others. I'm not sure that a 69 Camaro can ever run heads up on the road course with the new Vettes like what Danny drove. Aero, center of gravity, etc. are all against the older cars. You can make a 69 Camaro as light or lighter, but you'd still be in an uphill battle to beat a driver like Danny with a car like he had.

He deserved the win, and I think Mark was fine with it. I expect the rules will continue to be tweaked, and at some point it will be owner as the driver only. But for now those are the rules and he won fair and square.

I was typing my reply above when you posted. :) Thanks for swinging by Danny. :thumbsup: