The other week when I was donw there I couldn't help but like you. You just seemed like a great guy but now: Now out of complete jealousy that you found the seat I have dreamed of for my Torino at a price I can afford I hate you. :lol: Help a brother out and find me a set.

Hey I saw your work so far and from a design perspective it looks very nice. I don't think you had that much filler on it.

You've been driving that Shelby so you know those Fords run just fine.:D

I still say build an old school windsor based motor using a stock Ford CPU and quarterhorse tuning software. Lots of trackable power to be had for cheap.

I'm sort of glad you weren't over at JR's when I stumbled upon those seats last week. We might have started a bidding war, haha. In other related news, can I interest you in a set of Sparco Milano seats that I was saving for a rainy day :unibrow:

How much would a Windsor with EFI run me? I have noknowledge about old Ford motors, and while the thought of putting one in has crossed my mind, I just know more about mod motors, and wouldn't hesitate to take the car back to RTTH with a Coyote in it, knowing that I could knock down 25mpg+ and not have to worry about blowing anything up on the track.

Matt

I really think you will regret building the same type of car you have already. Take what you've learned and apply it to this one.:unibrow: Specifically, less maintenence and more reliability.

Less maintenance, and more reliability? Why do you think I decided to build a Ford this time :unibrow:

I've been thinking about how to make a better, faster car for a while now. I think our definitions of better and faster are going in completely different directions though. I doubt I'll be able to make this thing weigh more than 3100lbs. Right off the bat it should have a 400lb weight advantage. the car is flared 2.5." It's going to have more front tire (probably a 295) and a little less rear tire (295-315). Horsepower is a lot of fun, but I don't know that I'll need much more than 500 in this car. If I do add a blower (650ish) the car should still be fairly light. I'd like to run a dry sump and all kinds of oil coolers. I'm going to open up some quarter scoops to house those things. They'll probably just look cool, but maybe I'll drive fast enough, and long enough to take advantage of them.

Honestly, I wanted to just throw together a solid, relatively light car to have fun with, but I do tend to obsess over design elements I just couldn't make the car ugly. I don't really care about shiny paint, but since it is kind of a BOS car it will probably get that eventually. I doubt it will get too many rock chips since it will be ahead of the Camaros, and almost all Pro Touring cars are Camaros :lol:

Matt

I like your mind set on this one.

Yep. Sounds like a guy who's made a few "mistakes" on previous cars. :D

Seriously the plan sounds tough to argue with man. And I like to argue.

Matt have you considered this front setup from the Roadster Shop?

http://www.roadstershop.com/products...nsion-ifs-form

Or

http://www.roadstershop.com/products...-subframe-form

They seem to look really nice and cost is in line with the other setups out there.

Rick, I saw the Roadster Shop's front clip and their full frame when I visited them last year. They have outstanding build quality! I was not aware of their kit that welds in over the existing frame rails though. That is also some something to consider since I would like to keep the original pieces intact because the car has frame connectors, and crossmembers already built into the floor, and I would hate to replace something useful that came with the car.

I'm trying to keep things simple. I swear. I'd like to buy something that provides plenty of adjustment, and keeps added weight to a minimum, which is one of the really promising aspects of DSE front setup, which is made out of (mostly) aluminum. I also just remembered Agent 47 Racing. I like their stuff too. It isn't too over the top, looks like it installs easily, and gets the job done too.

http://www.agentfortyseven.com/harbinger/index.html#

So many choices now :willy:

Matt

Oh yeah that is another sweet option. That Harbinger is a beast! And I believe they are local to you down there, or close at least. At least you have some great options for this stuff... almost as many options for a stinkin Camaro. :D

That DSE Stang sure is kickin some butt since it came out.

Yeah, they're over in Carlsbad. My family is in construction/development, and I used to have to do plan take offs, and other horribly boring things related to mandated road improvements that the city would eventually pay for, for the street Agent 47 is off of. I still got lost trying to find them when I went to visit one day. Trust me though, when I found them, it was worth the little detour that I took. They're a rapid prototyping company that makes all kinds of stuff with really cool machines. They have a wall of CNC mills, 3D scanners and printers, machines that will "grow" parts out of pools of resin, etc.

Speaking of options, JME is another company that makes Mustang parts, and also happens to be fairly local to me:
http://www.jmeenterprises.com/JME%20...spension.shtml

Julio's stuff is cool as well, but there is now way I'm paying 10k+ for front suspension after adding in the cost of shocks and springs. I could probably build and race a Fox body car for that much.

Oh, and about DSE's Mustang, it has been kicking ass on small 340 treadwear tires. Something must be working there.

Matt