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fleet 04-22-2013 07:48 PM

Congrats Mario...happy for ya!

DOOM now in BEASTMODE.

:underchair:

Vegas69 04-22-2013 08:14 PM

I received an "agreement" when I built my engine that was on their document. A contract constructed by an attorney is a whole different deal.

You have their car and I'm sure they sign some paperwork. You do business with integrity. I think it's important to remember that we aren't the only good guys on the planet. There are plenty left with integrity.

My thought was to buy the part from the builder up front and make sure they were delivered. In reflection, I'd rather pay for the parts and labor in increments. I agree, I wouldn't expect a builder to back an engine where I brought in parts and forced them on him.

I agree Mario, when you forget what got you there, that spells trouble.

Wow Mario, that is going to be some sick power..... Update your thread with the specs...

Flash68 04-22-2013 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DOOM (Post 476522)
Big block 540 TT. Steve Morrison has quoted me $51.000.00

:eek:

That just made me feel so much better about the money I have dumped into my car. Thank you for that!

ccracin 04-22-2013 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DOOM (Post 476528)
Chad I'll come get ya!

I'm holding yah to that one! Dinner is on me!:happy23:

fleet 04-22-2013 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clill (Post 476437)
Just my 2 cents.
If I'm a good engine builder I probably already have a ton of business. If someone comes to me with a contract they made up I am going to probably say no. Maybe you are someone who is setting me up for a lawsuit etc. A headache I can avoid by just saying no.

The guy that will sign the contract might be the guy that really needs the money because he is lousy at what he does.

Or he's a great engine builder and says to himself 'Well, this is a little different. But if the terms are reasonable this can still be a win-win situation'. :)

GregWeld 04-22-2013 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clill (Post 476437)
Just my 2 cents.
If I'm a good engine builder I probably already have a ton of business. If someone comes to me with a contract they made up I am going to probably say no. Maybe you are someone who is setting me up for a lawsuit etc. A headache I can avoid by just saying no.

The guy that will sign the contract might be the guy that really needs the money because he is lousy at what he does.




100% agree with Charley on this one.... Anyone that is busy -- doesn't need your business.

It's not enough money to bother with a contract in the first place. I know it sounds like a lot - but if you want to litigate - that's a lawyers fee for just reading the contract and writing a letter....

Do the right thing -- find a REPUTABLE guy that understands your concerns -- and is willing to address them in a reasonable way. It might not be 100% of what you want - but building this stuff NEVER is on time -- and things always have a way of changing. So you've got to be somewhat flexible.

snappytravis 04-22-2013 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 476554)
100% agree with Charley on this one.... Anyone that is busy -- doesn't need your business.

It's not enough money to bother with a contract in the first place. I know it sounds like a lot - but if you want to litigate - that's a lawyers fee for just reading the contract and writing a letter....

Do the right thing -- find a REPUTABLE guy that understands your concerns -- and is willing to address them in a reasonable way. It might not be 100% of what you want - but building this stuff NEVER is on time -- and things always have a way of changing. So you've got to be somewhat flexible.

I agree, I would take it offensive if I was approached with a contract, that you don't trust me first, I also feel your unsure to have to have a contract think it's just a bad deal and you should find someone your comfortable with. Like a prenup, I don't think she will hose me but just in case.

badmatt 04-22-2013 09:31 PM

Give Mike Moran a call.

DOOM 04-23-2013 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 476540)
I received an "agreement" when I built my engine that was on their document. A contract constructed by an attorney is a whole different deal.

You have their car and I'm sure they sign some paperwork. You do business with integrity. I think it's important to remember that we aren't the only good guys on the planet. There are plenty left with integrity.

My thought was to buy the part from the builder up front and make sure they were delivered. In reflection, I'd rather pay for the parts and labor in increments. I agree, I wouldn't expect a builder to back an engine where I brought in parts and forced them on him.

I agree Mario, when you forget what got you there, that spells trouble.

Wow Mario, that is going to be some sick power..... Update your thread with the specs...

Again Todd well said!!!!
Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 476546)
:eek:

That just made me feel so much better about the money I have dumped into my car. Thank you for that!

Glad I can help!!!!:lol:
Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 476554)
100% agree with Charley on this one.... Anyone that is busy -- doesn't need your business.

It's not enough money to bother with a contract in the first place. I know it sounds like a lot - but if you want to litigate - that's a lawyers fee for just reading the contract and writing a letter....

Do the right thing -- find a REPUTABLE guy that understands your concerns -- and is willing to address them in a reasonable way. It might not be 100% of what you want - but building this stuff NEVER is on time -- and things always have a way of changing. So you've got to be somewhat flexible.

Greg as I stated before I'm fully aware not everything goes according to plan things do happen. These guys are depending on other people to make things happen I live it every day. My deal with AP was a joke ! They had $4000.00 dollars down payment of my money and knew full well they wouldn't have to give it back. There very well versed in the CC laws. I believe if my money was in some type of account waiting for them to collect when I received my trans I would of went through a lot less BS lies. I'll bet you they would of told me about the shut down to build transmissions for the OE'S had they not had my $4000.00 dollars! I think at the end of the day if the money is sitting waiting you'll get a lot more honesty! If I have a car waiting for a part that's holding me up from collecting XXX amount of dollars I'm calling all over the planet to find it so I can get paid! If I had that money up front I wouldn't sweat it as much my bills are paid.
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Originally Posted by badmatt (Post 476558)
Give Mike Moran a call.

He was contacted

Ummgawa 04-23-2013 07:19 AM

Someone posted earlier about your contract possibly being an indicator of you being a "difficult" or "unreasonable" customer. Let me assure you: At 40 Large for a motor, you have purchased the right to be difficult and demanding. if that scares off an engine builder, consider it a gift.


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