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Steve Chryssos 12-21-2006 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Fastbowtie
.........This engine will be used as a daily driver and be taken on long trips, hopefully Power Tour....

Gen 1 aluminum blocks move around a lot--like a boneless chicken. That means inferior ring seal that could cause minor smoking and cylinder wall washing. Not a problem for race cars but annoying on a true street car such as the application you described. Sux to be sitting in traffic with 15lbs oil pressure at idle because the engine is hot and clearances have opened up. It's not the end of the world, just be prepared for some embarrassing blue smoke and more frequent rebuilds. That's why GM never offered OE aluminum blocks in vettes until the LS stuff arrived. It took a total redesign to achieve a warranty ready aluminum block.

If you absolutely gotta have an aluminum block, go LSx or pick the block that has the most reinforcing ribs and the thickest bulkheads. Then build the motor tight as Rocket stated--That will cost you some power, but you'll be happier in the long run.

And there's no sense price shopping a Dart block since you'll spend extra for the one off parts. Just bite the bullet and hand your wallet to your engine builder.

Fastbowtie 12-21-2006 01:10 PM

And there's no sense price shopping a Dart block since you'll spend extra for the one off parts. Just bite the bullet and hand your wallet to your engine builder.[/QUOTE]

I am the engine builder. This will be my 11th. So far the 406's have been the fastest.

rocketman 12-21-2006 04:25 PM

I ran a alumunim big block 632 on the street and raced for 5 years,I freshened it yearly with now problems,ran 8's in the 1/4 and drive to the track.Then ran a 710 on the street for about 4 months(sold the car)with no problems.

I built it tight gave up a little race preformance,but never had a street problem.An aluminum block move's around alittle,but there's several tricks to using.always let it warm up alittle bit,if you dry sump it,you need to pre oil it before everytime you start it.

They are alittle more pain,but they live well.

jonny51 12-21-2006 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Fastbowtie
That sounds like a good price. I'm still torn though on whether to do an aluminum or not though. Everyone is saying that there can be a horsepower loss for the first couple of builds because of the sleeves moving around inside the block. Jonny does the car handle a ton better or do you not notice it?

I have not driven the car with that motor yet.I am taking it on the power tour and im not to worried about it.

Steve Chryssos 12-22-2006 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fastbowtie
And there's no sense price shopping a Dart block since you'll spend extra for the one off parts. Just bite the bullet and hand your wallet to your engine builder.

I am the engine builder. This will be my 11th. So far the 406's have been the fastest.[/QUOTE]

Well that helps. So what blocks did you use for the other 10 engines?

clill 12-22-2006 07:22 AM

The Mule has a aluminum smallblock and has had no problems with low oil pressure, smoking etc that I have ever noticed and it has over 10,000 miles on it. Red Witch has a aluminum big block with over 20,000 miles with no problems either.

Fastbowtie 12-22-2006 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by streetfytr68
I am the engine builder. This will be my 11th. So far the 406's have been the fastest.

Well that helps. So what blocks did you use for the other 10 engines?[/QUOTE]

They were all stock blocks. 5 350's Chevys, 1 460 Ford, 2 406's Chevy's, 1 Pontiac 350, and a Pontiac 1.8L.

rocketman 12-24-2006 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Fastbowtie
Well that helps. So what blocks did you use for the other 10 engines?

They were all stock blocks. 5 350's Chevys, 1 460 Ford, 2 406's Chevy's, 1 Pontiac 350, and a Pontiac 1.8L.[/QUOTE]


Take your time,doing an aluminum block is differnet than doing a steel block,rememeber tight clearance's.do alot a research on prepping the block.you don't want to mess up a 4k block

Fastbowtie 12-24-2006 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by rocketman
They were all stock blocks. 5 350's Chevys, 1 460 Ford, 2 406's Chevy's, 1 Pontiac 350, and a Pontiac 1.8L.


Take your time,doing an aluminum block is differnet than doing a steel block,rememeber tight clearance's.do alot a research on prepping the block.you don't want to mess up a 4k block[/QUOTE]


Thanks Rocketman I will. I am still kind of thinking about just doing a iron block.

pdq67 12-30-2006 04:33 PM

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