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PTAddict 06-16-2007 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tyoneal
To All:

I personally would like to have access to some of your multipart Build articles.

Have you considered, a subscription to "HR/PHR etc. online", where articles from past magazines are available to read or reference for someone with a current build?

At least this way you could, "Sell", the article twice and create some very inexpensive cash flow as well as encourage people to become more interested in the Hobby?

I think it would be real interesting to read articles from back in the 50s and 60s and see how they have changed, or I could really research the different engine builds from the past for ideas for future builds.

It could also be a good incentive for people to buy multi-year subscriptions if this access was included for an extra 20% etc.

Be Creative using it to help gain access to readers from different Magazine markets. There are plenty of niche magazines under the Primedia umbrella.

Some crossover access could help build the Primedia magazine market overall.

For me when I get interested in a subject like the LSx platform for instance, I want to read everything I can on it. Waiting every month hoping that there will be an article on that particular subject can be a real drag. In some cases so much of a drag that, I would just NOT buy the subscription altogether and wait every month to check out the issues at the news stand and see whether or not I want to buy THAT one issue. Whereas, if I knew that subscribing would allow me access to whatever topic I wanted to read about, there is a darn good chance that "buying all issues" would:

a) Save a bunch of Money off the News Stand price and

b) Give me "Instant Subject" satisfaction

Another idea, that would encourage people to subscribe is that only subscribers have a chance at being show cased in the magazine, not just casual, "Doctors office", "Library" or "news stand" buyers. If not this exclusively, then at least preference over the non-subscriber.

The Power Tours are a Brilliant way of exposing people to, and encouraging people to read and be a part of the Hot Rodding community. I would deliberately plan Power Tours through the parts of the country where the magazine(s) don't have good penetration. Everyone loves a parade and being part of an, "Experience".

Guiding 2500 cars through different size cities on a scenic drive, would also bring $$$$ to those towns. Possible sponsorships or advertising might be possible eventually if several, "Tours" took place around the country on the same route and time every year. Look at Sturgis, South Dakota. Everyone knows where it will be and when it will be, so plans can be made a year in advance, and the businesses would know when they will have big crowds in town every year.

The weather and temperature should dictate when a particular tour would take place. In the winter months the Southern part of the county, Summer months the northern part of the country, in between California.

Each Tour should have a name, patch, shirt etc. specific to that tour and the year that tour took place. Sponsors could have there business names added to the "Official" Shirt (Free advertising) Yes, I know automotive sponsors already do this, but annual routes could create additional non-automotive supporters.

With regards to subjects that I would like to read about:

The cage, fire suppression, helmets etc. are excellent new areas to cover. In addition, driving techniques not only for Drag racing but also for open track days, auto cross, rally etc. would make interesting reading. Information about the NHRA, SCCA and the like might be different subjects to touch on occasionally.

I would be interested in peoples thoughts about which subjects, concepts, or ideas you think are good.

Thanks for reading,

Ty O'Neal

Hot Rod had a service like this about 8 years ago or more already. Unfortunately, it didn't last long due, IIRC, to intellectual property issues (copyrights or some such thing).

linzbach 06-16-2007 02:08 PM

2 thumbs up to PHR!
 
As a long time subscriber I have to say that I've personally thought the last several issues of PHR have been the best in a long time! I love the mix of drag racing and g-machines.

The two project cars (Chevelle and Fairlane) are the two coolest project cars I've seen in any magazine in a really long time (since they are attainable and being built on a reasonable budget).

Keep up the great work!
Bill

tyoneal 06-17-2007 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by PTAddict
Hot Rod had a service like this about 8 years ago or more already. Unfortunately, it didn't last long due, IIRC, to intellectual property issues (copyrights or some such thing).

I would like to know if the written features are from the staff, independent writers, or is the material purchased?

If the HD, PHR etc. staff wrote these articles, wouldn't they belong to the magazine?

I would be interested how the copyright issue affects this issue. I still think it is a good idea, and one that could be handled with the contracts the magazines enters into. If nothing else, there are many talented people in this Hobby who are perfectly capable of writing and submitting papers. If this wasn't true, how do you suppose the photos that are sent in are handled?

Once they are submitted, they become property of the magazine.

Other thoughts??

Ty

trapin 06-17-2007 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Roger Poirier
If readership is what PHR is looking for I highly suggest you guys work on distribution of the magazine. PHR is very hard to find on the news stands.

Major bookstores do not carry it in this area, Metro Detroit. It has been that way for many years. Hot Rod and Car Craft can be found on every street corner.

R.P.

I'll 2nd that. When my car was in Hometown I visited about 10 different places before I finally found a copy at Murray's Auto Parts. And they only had one left. Ridiculous. Hot Rod is literally everywhere. I'm surprised you don't find them at McDonalds Restaurants, that's how huge their distribution is. Get PHR out there to more people and your numbers will go up. I'm fine with drag cars being in there but try not to let David get his way and take over the whole magazine. If there's people out there that still want tired out technology, car builds that you've seen a bazillion times, and the same old song and dance have them buy Hot Rod Magazine.

Steve Chryssos 06-18-2007 04:50 AM

Page 62 of the current (August) issue has a 64 Fairlane that is perfect. It's a street/strip car, but it has a little wider front tire, AC, fuel injection and overdrive. This car is right at home next to a g-machine. Both cars excel in their respective build styles, but they share a common bond in functionality.

Fluid Power 06-18-2007 06:08 AM

Chryssos has a great idea about functionality. I have to agree. I actually let my PHR subscription run out a about 6 months ago due to the fact that was all about G machines. Every issue and article was the same, (insert camaro/mustang pic) talk about big tires and brakes, etc, etc. Maybe I am the exception, but I prefer several cross sections of the hobby in magazines with the main focus being the core feel of the magazine. With the suggestions on this thread, PHR would be wise to follow a few.

I agree that distribution of the magazine is awful.

Darren

Steve Chryssos 06-18-2007 06:28 AM

It's not PHR's fault. And editors have absoutely no control over distribution. The magazine distribution industry is an absolute mess. Distribution for PHR is hit or miss. You can usually find the magazine at your local speed shop. That's your best bet. Here, the publisher sidesteps the traditional distribution quagmire. Buying from your speed shop is good for the magazine and good for the speed shop. Subs are usually a financial loser for niche magazines. And that applies to all niche magazines, not just PHR. The sub to newsstand ratio for smaller specialty automotive magazines runs about 90/10. PHR is doing better than average at 77/22. Hot Rod is easier to find because it has greater than 500,000 circ. The last published ABC statement for PHR 12/31/06 was 118,110.

rockdogz 06-18-2007 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by streetfytr68
It's not PHR's fault. And editors have absoutely no control over distribution. The magazine distribution industry is an absolute mess. Distribution for PHR is hit or miss. You can usually find the magazine at your local speed shop. That's your best bet. Here, the publisher sidesteps the traditional distribution quagmire. Buying from your speed shop is good for the magazine and good for the speed shop. Subs are usually a financial loser for niche magazines. And that applies to all niche magazines, not just PHR. The sub to newsstand ratio for smaller specialty automotive magazines runs about 90/10. PHR is doing better than average at 77/22. Hot Rod is easier to find because it has greater than 500,000 circ. The last published ABC statement for PHR 12/31/06 was 118,110.

Is there such thing as a local speed shop anymore??

ryan2 06-18-2007 10:55 AM

I'm just glad I've gone 2 or 3 months without seeing that same 75 Firebird with the Hot Rod give away Pontiac motor. Between PHR and Hot Rod, it was in circulation for 4 or 5 months straight.

Steve Chryssos 06-18-2007 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by rockdogz
Is there such thing as a local speed shop anymore??

I'm lucky to have one. Some large auto chains like Auto Zone carry mags as well.


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