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mazspeed 08-25-2007 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TravisB
dont order boyds there quaity control sucks. I have a nice set of 18 and 20 in DP Engineering wheels I need to sell but thats probably bigger than you want

Hey Travis, I appreciate the offer, but yeah, I'm sticking with the 17-18 combo. It looks best on my car. ;)

AllSpeedAndy 08-25-2007 11:41 AM

Has any body checked to see if you are blowing threw the converter?

I've had several cars in here, that we've put prochargers on and not see any wheel numbers change do to converter slippage or just straight blown threw...

got a good a/f and no more power....i'd look to the drive line before getting to crittical on the motor.

Andy

Steve1968LS2 08-25-2007 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mazspeed
Also I may have to order new wheels as the boyds came bent from the factory. The rears are not round and not true. So far, it is still driving me nuts.

PM me about your wheels...

mazspeed 08-25-2007 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2
PM me about your wheels

You have a pm.

Vince@Meanstreets 08-25-2007 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mazspeed
Also having a problem with the braking system. The hydroboost works, but when the car is going slow, and to a stop, the car slows down by itself. Kevin pulled the mater off and found that the master's shaft was too long for the unit and cannot be machined down as it's part of the unit, so I have to either ditch the hydroboost or get another master to work with it. I'm thinking about ditching the hydroboost as it's just a problematic POS.

Have Kevin machine a spacer and seal kit for it. IMO sounds like the wrong master.

mazspeed 08-25-2007 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab
Have Kevin machine a spacer and seal kit for it. IMO sounds like the wrong master.

Hey Vince, would that work? I was told that it might need a drum brake master for the hydroboost?

Vince@Meanstreets 08-25-2007 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mazspeed
Hey Vince, would that work? I was told that it might need a drum brake master for the hydroboost?

Yep, that might be the case then. When you go master shopping you need the piston with the deep hole.

mazspeed 08-25-2007 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab
Y you need the piston with the deep hole.

One could take this the wrong way. :lol:

mazspeed 08-25-2007 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab
Yep, that might be the case then. When you go master shopping you need the piston with the deep hole.

Ok, Ill have too see. I hate to lose my master, but id rather lose the hydroboost. Ill run it buy them on Monday though. Thanks :thumbsup:

ProdigyCustoms 08-26-2007 05:05 AM

Now surely this cannot be a shallow hole / deep hole problem (Keep your mind out of the gutter now!). The brakes would not work if that was the case. It is possible but no likely the rod is a tiny bit to long for the hole (watch it now!). This is very easy to verify, when you put the master on, pushing it tight against the booster, if the master springs back at all, the rod is to long or the hole is too shallow (I know, happens to us all the time!). The quick test / fix is to put a couple washers between the master and booster to shim the master away a bit to see if this stops the problem. I doubt very seriously this is going to be the problem though as those guys surely know all this.

Another thing to check though that if could be is to make sure that at the retun line TEE for the hydrobbost / Power Steering, that the brake return side of the TEE is on the straight through side of that TEE. If the brake side is not on the straight side of the TEE, this could prevent the booster from returning fluid fast enough, and making the brakes feel a bit hung (Here we go again).

Ummgawa 08-26-2007 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ProdigyCustoms
Now surely this cannot be a shallow hole / deep hole problem (Keep your mind out of the gutter now!). The brakes would not work if that was the case. It is possible but no likely the rod is a tiny bit to long for the hole (watch it now!). This is very easy to verify, when you put the master on, pushing it tight against the booster, if the master springs back at all, the rod is to long or the hole is too shallow (I know, happens to us all the time!). The quick test / fix is to put a couple washers between the master and booster to shim the master away a bit to see if this stops the problem. I doubt very seriously this is going to be the problem though as those guys surely know all this.

Another thing to check though that if could be is to make sure that at the retun line TEE for the hydrobbost / Power Steering, that the brake return side of the TEE is on the straight through side of that TEE. If the brake side is not on the straight side of the TEE, this could prevent the booster from returning fluid fast enough, and making the brakes fell a bit hung (Here we go again) a bit.

I am tempted, but I will just leave this one completely alone....:yes:

Bowtieracing 08-26-2007 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TravisB
dont order boyds there quaity control sucks. I have a nice set of 18 and 20 in DP Engineering wheels I need to sell but thats probably bigger than you want

Stay away from budniks as well-actually forget all "billet" wheels and go for a real racing quality wheels.

tyoneal 08-26-2007 11:11 PM

Mazspeed:

I'm sorry you have to be the one this headache happens to, but Hang in there I know this is very frustrating, but remember all this is based on the physics of nature. There is a "Bug" in your system temporarily that is obstructing the performance of your car. It will be found and hopefully you will still have a huge grin on your face when things get sorted out.

FWIW: You are helping a lot of people who are reading this thread. You have brought up several big issues that people can learn from not including the obvious SuperCharger bug.

First, High performance engines require special and very accurate tuning. For those who haven't been exposed to this first hand and are expecting an easy time at this, your situation is a prime case and point to the reality of sorting out a "HotRod".

Second, and probably more important, anyone reading this thread should be very impressed with the level of support, encouragement and dedication the members have for each other with their assistance offers. I wish I could help you in the same manner as the people who have chimed in before me, even though I can't, I am very glad to point out how impressive it is to see the true help pour in.

Finally, the subject of sub-quality wheels has been brought up and real, "words of wisdom", have been spoken openly about them. It is difficult sometime for the brutal truth about different products to be made publicly. In many cases the money laid out for these is substantial for most people, and it is something that most people don't want to, or cannot afford to do twice.

As an observer, this is really one of the better threads I have read in a while, and it speaks well of the people on this site.

I'm sure you will have an extremely, "Kick Ass", Ride when you finished. All this being said, Take Care and Good Luck.:thumbsup:

Best Regards,

Ty O'Neal

mazspeed 08-26-2007 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tyoneal
Mazspeed:

I'm sorry you have to be the one this headache happens to, but Hang in there I know this is very frustrating, but remember all this is based on the physics of nature. There is a "Bug" in your system temporarily that is obstructing the performance of your car. It will be found and hopefully you will still have a huge grin on your face when things get sorted out.

FWIW: You are helping a lot of people who are reading this thread. You have brought up several big issues that people can learn from not including the obvious SuperCharger bug.

First, High performance engines require special and very accurate tuning. For those who haven't been exposed to this first hand and are expecting an easy time at this, your situation is a prime case and point to the reality of sorting out a "HotRod".

Second, and probably more important, anyone reading this thread should be very impressed with the level of support, encouragement and dedication the members have for each other with their assistance offers. I wish I could help you in the same manner as the people who have chimed in before me, even though I can't, I am very glad to point out how impressive it is to see the true help pour in.

Finally, the subject of sub-quality wheels has been brought up and real, "words of wisdom", have been spoken openly about them. It is difficult sometime for the brutal truth about different products to be made publicly. In many cases the money laid out for these is substantial for most people, and it is something that most people don't want to, or cannot afford to do twice.

As an observer, this is really one of the better threads I have read in a while, and it speaks well of the people on this site.

I'm sure you will have an extremely, "Kick Ass", Ride when you finished. All this being said, Take Care and Good Luck.:thumbsup:

Best Regards,

Ty O'Neal


Hey Ty, thanks for the kind words. Yes I have received a good education on this thread alone, plus with all the IM messages and phone calls from guys on this site. I should thank Scott for that, as he has put together one hell of a group of people, and the help I have received, and continue to receive will not go without mention. Yeah the wheels are a sore spot as Boyd/American Racing wheels will not do anything for me once the wheels are mounted. They were rather rude about it as well. Anyways this thread has been great for the fact that I'm getting lots of feedback and help and encouragement to keep the car once it's done, don't know about that yet, but I have to at least try and finish it. :thumbsup:

rich-allen 08-27-2007 04:28 AM

I think these shops that get TV shows lose their customer support base in a short amount of time.
Imagine the kind of non stop telephone calls when you have a show like Boyd did. People from around the world trying to get prices and order one off wheels and cars. It must be through the roof.
Shortly thereafter your income is up 1000% and the lawyers get involved, suddenly 95% of your machine work is coming from the far east.

I figure once a shop gets a TV show their yesterday's news anyway.
That's what I love about lateral-g.net, always cutting edge stuff happening here.



Rich

Flash68 08-27-2007 03:18 PM

Hang in there, Mike. You will not regret it in the end, and you have come so far.

:thumbsup:

mazspeed 08-27-2007 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash68
Hang in there, Mike. You will not regret it in the end, and you have come so far.

:thumbsup:

I appreciate that. Hey, are you the one who bought Don's motor?

Flash68 08-27-2007 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mazspeed
I appreciate that. Hey, are you the one who bought Don's motor?

Yep, that is me. I'm Dave.

The mini-tubbing and body/paint is being done now and should be ready for motor install in about a month. I am hoping to have it ready to go by October.

You really do have a sweet ride - would hate to see you sell it. But you are damn close....

I am glad to know Jody built and tuned the motor I have. He really knows what he is doing around here!

Hope to see your car again soon and running well! :)

mazspeed 08-27-2007 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash68
Yep, that is me. I'm Dave.

The mini-tubbing and body/paint is being done now and should be ready for motor install in about a month. I am hoping to have it ready to go by October.

You really do have a sweet ride - would hate to see you sell it. But you are damn close....

I am glad to know Jody built and tuned the motor I have. He really knows what he is doing around here!

Hope to see your car again soon and running well! :)

I almost bought that motor and supercharger combo. Jody is simply the best IMHO. Super guy. I can't wait to see your car running as well. :thumbsup:

Steve Chryssos 08-27-2007 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tyoneal
....FWIW: You are helping a lot of people who are reading this thread. You have brought up several big issues that people can learn from not including the obvious SuperCharger bug.......For those who haven't been exposed to this first hand and are expecting an easy time at this, your situation is a prime case and point to the reality of sorting out a "HotRod"....

Truer words have never been spoken...uhh, typed.

Flash68 08-27-2007 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mazspeed
I almost bought that motor and supercharger combo. Jody is simply the best IMHO. Super guy. I can't wait to see your car running as well. :thumbsup:

Thanks! Yeah it was quite a good deal for everything I got. And I felt a lot better already having spent enough time on this forum and pro-touring to know about Jody and his credentials.

I am sure I will be hitting up Jody for some advice at some point to help get it tuned perfectly and running, but I know it's already got a good base tune in the FAST system he programmed.

Thinking a couple more months, which probably means 4-6 more months! LOL

mazspeed 08-27-2007 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash68
Thinking a couple more months, which probably means 4-6 more months! LOL

Tell me about it. heh


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