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ironworks 08-27-2009 05:31 PM

Rollcage progress

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ust2009239.jpg

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ust2009240.jpg

HWY Nova 08-27-2009 08:45 PM

Nice steering wheel! Is that a new racing wheel?


--Eric

bentfab 08-28-2009 08:45 AM

Is it me or do I see the infamous Ruptured Duck in the back ground?

ironworks 08-28-2009 08:51 AM

That would be it.

HWY Nova 08-28-2009 09:18 AM

Sorry if you've already explained this: What are your plans for the interior as far as the floors go? Insulation? Carpeting? Paint?


--Eric

ironworks 08-28-2009 09:37 AM

As Jesse James said "if it does not make it stop fast or Go fast it will not go on the bike". We will put some insulaition in the car, but we are also trying get the car below 3000 lbs. We have made some compromises to have a car that is still comfortable on the highway. But at the end of the day it is meant to drive the crap out of. We hope to put 10,000 plus miles on the car next year. Car shows, autocrosses, Silver State Classic, Hot Rod Power Tour, maybe Bonneville just to say we ran the car. Maybe the Road and track one lap event.

We also plan to show things that would not usually get shown in a build, I want to expose the wiring, the AC duct work, different things like that to show that hidden details. The ECU will mount on the outside of the dash. I think I have figured out how to use a Budnik Steering wheel on a quick release hub. I have not found anybody who makes a 9 bolt lecarra steering wheel Quick release hub. But I thnk we can make our own pretty easy.

So I'm trying to get some of the best of both worlds. Some trick cool parts on a car that work at the track with as many bolt on parts as possible.

XLexusTech 08-28-2009 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ironworks (Post 231824)
As Jesse James said "if it does not make it stop fast or Go fast it will not go on the bike". We will put some insulaition in the car, but we are also trying get the car below 3000 lbs. We have made some compromises to have a car that is still comfortable on the highway.
So I'm trying to get some of the best of both worlds. Some trick cool parts on a car that work at the track with as many bolt on parts as possible.

Me too thanks for taking the lead

brian mc 08-28-2009 03:18 PM

man that had to kill you to put that pre-bent cage in there knowing what you guys can do bending & rolling your own tube, even if it was a freebie......
cars looking good saw it at the pleasanton show i like the stance for a bolt in car, not bad
it will look real good coming in 4th place everywhere!

novanutcase 08-28-2009 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brian mc (Post 231895)
it will look real good coming in 4th place everywhere!

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g1...s/laughing.gif

John

ironworks 08-28-2009 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by novanutcase (Post 231901)


Yeah If you only knew, the story behind that one. We may not have gotten win on the track, But now there are 3 rules.

" There are 2 Rules" ...... Now they will say, " There are 3 rules "


Hay Brian next time you want to skip out on family pictures to go race with the boys you just let me know........ "YOU ARE THE MAN". Even if you have to cheat..... Long live Team Silver Spoon :thumbsup:

novanutcase 08-28-2009 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ironworks (Post 231902)
Yeah If you only knew, the story behind that one. We may not have gotten win on the track, But now there are 3 rules.

" There are 2 Rules" ...... Now they will say, " There are 3 rules "


Hay Brian next time you want to skip out on family pictures to go race with the boys you just let me know........ "YOU ARE THE MAN". Even if you have to cheat..... Long live Team Silver Spoon :thumbsup:

Call me....I gotta hear this one!!!!:lol:

John

ironworks 09-01-2009 01:37 PM

Time for another update. Things are going pretty smooth. We have 90% of the rollcage welded in place. Most all the parts are under the hood. We have the ATS hydraulics for the clutch on th firewall and Got the Vintage Air LS7 Engine Bracket system Anodized in black installed. We have the Willwood black master cylinder mounted on the firewall. We are going to run manual brakes no booster or hydroboost. We have the Air intake plumbing set up with a K&N air filter. We have alot of the Plumbing done in front of the core support. We got the firewall support bars located and welded to eveything but the male side that welds to the chassis. We got the Drive by Wire Throtle pedal mounted up under the dash. We are going to try and get the Clayton Machine Works gas pedal pad on the elctronic gas pedal. The Drive by wire throttle body has not shown up from Gm yet.

The Vintage air bracket system went on without a single hitch. It is very solidly constructed and seems like a pretty nice piece. We will be installing the Gen 4 unit later this afternoon. We are also working to lay out the window flanges in Solidworks to laser cut the steel flange and water jet cut the lexan windows.

Enjoy.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ber2009033.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ber2009029.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ust2009231.jpg

I will try and get a complete underhood picture later this afternoon.

tones2SS 09-01-2009 03:02 PM

As usual, looking good Rodger.

GMracer 09-01-2009 03:22 PM

:thumbsup:

HWY Nova 09-01-2009 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ironworks (Post 232523)

I will try and get a complete underhood picture later this afternoon.


Get on it!

ironworks 09-01-2009 04:45 PM

As promised, or Threatened

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ber2009035.jpg

The start of Hanging the AC.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ber2009036.jpg

HWY Nova 09-01-2009 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ironworks (Post 232564)

Nice close-out panels under the (un-installed) carbon-fiber Cowl (between the fenders).


--Eric

camaro2nv 09-01-2009 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HWY Nova (Post 232566)
Nice close-out panels under the (un-installed) carbon-fiber Cowl (between the fenders).


--Eric

Good eye! Thats nice!

GregWeld 09-01-2009 05:26 PM

I should keep my big yap shut -- but noticed the bracket holding the air cleaner is built of flat stock -- and there are all those nice ROUND bars going on in there -- like the fender to core supports -- and the firewall to frame bars...

Maybe you're going to close this area off? And nobody will see what's under there....

Vegas69 09-01-2009 05:40 PM

It's all business, just the way it should be. My only two observations are the pedals and cooling. I am running the manual wilwoods and you get more travel than vaccum assisted especially in a race enviroment. Your brake and gas pedal look to close based on my experience. With everything you have stacked in front of the radiator, I hope you don't have low speed cooling issues.

ironworks 09-01-2009 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 232582)
I should keep my big yap shut -- but noticed the bracket holding the air cleaner is built of flat stock -- and there are all those nice ROUND bars going on in there -- like the fender to core supports -- and the firewall to frame bars...

Maybe you're going to close this area off? And nobody will see what's under there....

The Bracket is not quite what I wanted, I came back from lunch and that is what we had. That may get changed or not, depends on time remaining before SEMA. It is just flat strap tacked togther. I need to close off the top to get all the air through the radiator as well as the sides of the core support and below the grille. I want to force all the air through the grille not allow it to go anywhere else.

With 2 big 16 fans, we should not have trouble keeping it cool, plus I put the coolers a little further out in front to get the air from around the coolers to go through the radiator with less resistance and for cooler air through the radiator. The coolers are way overkill as far as size. If we can block everything all the air going through the grille should go through the radiator.

We might scale it tommorrow.

Vegas69 09-01-2009 06:11 PM

I didn't realize you could fit two 16's with that radiator support. On a stock core you can run two 13's if you're lucky. I'm looking at having a custom radiator built right now and the stock support is a challenge for the road course and street.

ironworks 09-01-2009 06:13 PM

I can get you a deal on the PRC units if your interested. They are pretty nice and drop some weight off the nose of the car.

Matt@BOS 09-01-2009 07:39 PM

Good god, I can't believe how quickly this car is coming together. Between this and the other projects going on do you ever sleep?

BTW, just curious, where are you putting the coil packs?

Matt

ironworks 09-01-2009 10:01 PM

28 works days, maybe 10-12 hour days.

The coil packs might go on the down bars from the firewall with ATS coil brackets.

SWAPMEETCRAZY 09-02-2009 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69MSA (Post 232613)
Good god, I can't believe how quickly this car is coming together. Between this and the other projects going on do you ever sleep?

BTW, just curious, where are you putting the coil packs?

Matt

Matt --your making me feel bad now--I'm having rodger make me some bed mounts right in the middle of this!!--Good thing I sent him a new cap too!!
(Still not in a hurry Rodger!! Check and cap should be there tomorrow):bow: :bow: jim

Matt@BOS 09-02-2009 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ironworks (Post 232640)
28 works days, maybe 10-12 hour days.

The coil packs might go on the down bars from the firewall with ATS coil brackets.

Thanks, I figured you'd find a good place for them other then on top of the valve covers. We were trying to think of someplace good, but in the end the only real option we had was on the other side of the core support.

Its looking good, can't wait to see more progress.

Matt

ironworks 09-02-2009 11:57 PM

James with the One Lap car has heard of amperage issues if you mount the coils to far from the plugs and make long plug wires. He was having shut off issues at 148 mph and was thinking it might be a voltage issue and that was one of the possiblities.

So function over form wins again.

And Matt you "Purple Rain Camaro" is looking great. :thumbsup:

Rodger

96z28ss 09-03-2009 12:14 AM

This place makes a coil relocation kit that isn't that far away from the valve cover.
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/products.html

ironworks 09-03-2009 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 96z28ss (Post 232852)
This place makes a coil relocation kit that isn't that far away from the valve cover.
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/products.html

Thanks but I already have a set of ATS coil bracket to locate.

Darrell 09-03-2009 07:34 PM

Hey,vintage air stuff looks great,car looks great,and I like the pedel assembly,TOP SECRET

ironworks 09-05-2009 03:05 PM

Well here is a Saturday Update for you guys. We are moving right along with some details that take alittle longer then the big stuff. We have Mounted the GM performance parts ECU, Which will be exposed, We mounted the Speedwire Relay panel right above that, We have the Vintage Air unit mounted off the firewall and rollcage also. We also got the Kirkey Seats mounted in the car. The Twist machine shifter is also mount to the shifter.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ber2009037.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ber2009038.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ber2009039.jpg

Have a Good weekend

Rodger

GregWeld 09-05-2009 03:25 PM

Lookin' like a race car Rodger!

GregWeld 09-05-2009 03:45 PM

Rodger --

Is that a Syncrowave 250 or 350 in the background?? Makes my Dynasty DX look like a kids toy!!

BuiltByBrooks 09-05-2009 08:51 PM

WoW!! look'n good

417 Motorsports 09-06-2009 07:06 PM

Im pretty sure thats a 350... the dynasty models are badass!!! They almost pay for themselves just in the power you save runnin them :thumbsup:



And rodger, the car is looking amazing, esp for bein just bolt on parts

Payton King 09-08-2009 07:51 AM

I did not see a price on the Speedwire
 
site. How much for that little jewel....I like it.

ironworks 09-08-2009 08:02 AM

Give Gil A call at Speedwire. Each system is completely custom. I did not get the typical nitrous timers and other options that they offer. He will give you a price for whatever system they will build for your needs.

It this really nice quality stuff.

Tell him you saw the Camaro project on the internet.

DOOM 09-09-2009 05:30 AM

Rodger are you doing a stock dash or a custom??

ironworks 09-09-2009 06:50 AM

Custom aluminum unit. We are incorporating the Fuse panel and ECU into the look of the dash. We wanted to show the organization of the wiring and AC duct work under the dash. Make it a rolling business card or sorts.

Rodger


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