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RECOVERY ROOM 11-24-2009 05:53 PM

Just think how cool you will look changing tires tho.

nvr2fst 11-24-2009 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ironworks (Post 249796)
AHHHHH..... Good thing Daves out of town and away from the Computer..

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ber2009005.jpg

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Rodger

So I decided to head out to LA and take a nice scenic drive heading north to visit Rodger. (Talk about a distance to drive to no mans land let alone fly in from Wisconsin.) First, because I needed to see the car and the photos were not giving me the perspective I visioned. Second, we needed to really sit down and go over all of whats been happening and whats to to come. Not much to do in good ole Bakersfield but with all the projects going on there it kept me pretty occupied viewing everything. So we spend the morning going over everything and come up with a couple of last minute ideas that at the moment was reluctant on and then Rodger takes me to lunch and this is what I came back to! (Rodger been saying TRUST ME for the last couple of months but this is out of line LOL) Soon you will see why he did what he did.
There has been so many camaros over the years that have had every mod to mankind and you really need to spend the time and design a car that is different than most without effecting the overall 69 look. Rodger so far has come through with every aspect of the notes and photo ideas Ive been sending him. Ive had my share of restored and slightly modified cars over the years but I still never had that all out, out of the box build. Some will hate it and some will love it but in the long run its my car and my decision.

ironworks 11-24-2009 06:40 PM

Maybe they will figure out what we did by the project name.

"EL CAMARO"

GregWeld 11-24-2009 07:12 PM

Since the car is in California...

It would have to be "EL Camaro Real"

Pronounced RE AL for you non-Best Coasters. LOL

syborg tt 11-24-2009 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nvr2fst (Post 250106)
Marty and Jeff- The helmet humps in the roof would only be for Rodger! On a good day Im lucky if Im 5"9. Marty NO NO NO there will be no lambo doors although I seen enough of them in Beverly Hills these last two days

pretty please - i think it would look cool

Kendall Burleson 11-25-2009 06:54 AM

Becareful what you say because some body will believe you (EL Camaro only in Texas) their are about half a doz here.:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

brian mc 11-25-2009 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ironworks (Post 249801)
We just cut the back off. That all nothing big....

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ber2009008.jpg

this is shaping up to be the baddest, most radical (but subtle), most engineered Camaro ever. I am glad to bear witness to this machine coming together & hope "nvr2fst" can keep this up cause it's gonna be SIC......
i like the mounts for the LCA's, waterjet brackets & clean a$$ tig welds classic Ironworks style.

GregWeld 11-25-2009 07:13 PM

There will be so many hours of TIG welding in this build - that a guy could start out a beginner and end up teaching TIG as a college course! :rofl:

ironworks 11-25-2009 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brian mc (Post 250379)
this is shaping up to be the baddest, most radical (but subtle), most engineered Camaro ever. I am glad to bear witness to this machine coming together & hope "nvr2fst" can keep this up cause it's gonna be SIC......
i like the mounts for the LCA's, waterjet brackets & clean a$$ tig welds classic Ironworks style.

Thanks Brian, it's pretty nice for a Camaro I suppose. :D

Maybe Truck of the Year, if we put a bed floor in the EL CAMARO....

DFRESH 11-25-2009 09:51 PM

Dave, you have got to be pumped. I love those fenders---that looks awesome--never thought a "flared" (if that's what the kids are calling it these days) fender belonged on these cars--yours looks right. Props to Rodger for being able to handle a drag radial car build in his past, and something like this. Geez, in Bakersfield of all places---well, let's face it, what else is there to do in Bakersfield anyways? :lol:

Looks so good man---now, let's talk about paint color here---cause I am not going to go back an read the entire thread again---talk to you soon

Doug

TOM NELSON 11-26-2009 01:08 PM

Way to go
 
Rodger I'd like to tell you thank you for letting us watch along your builds .People who live and sleep there passion cannot but help inspire others and your work has inspiried me to push to a new level.We are currently building a mid engine all wheel drive 67 Gto which i modeled the chassis and suspension first in solidworks and its because of your work threw the years i went for it. Thanks and keep doing what your doing,But stop for a minute once and awhile and realize and be proud of what you've accomplished.Keep up the awesome stuff Tom

novanutcase 11-26-2009 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TOM NELSON (Post 250562)
Rodger I'd like to tell you thank you for letting us watch along your builds .People who live and sleep there passion cannot but help inspire others and your work has inspiried me to push to a new level.We are currently building a mid engine all wheel drive 67 Gto which i modeled the chassis and suspension first in solidworks and its because of your work threw the years i went for it. Thanks and keep doing what your doing,But stop for a minute once and awhile and realize and be proud of what you've accomplished.Keep up the awesome stuff Tom

Couldn't have said it better myself.....

When I first started my build with Rodger he was in his old location. I don't think he really realizes how far he's come since then. I guess it's hard to stand back and appreciate what you've done when you're so busy trying to push the envelope all the time!!:cheers:

John

RECOVERY ROOM 11-26-2009 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ironworks (Post 250414)
Thanks Brian, it's pretty nice for a Camaro I suppose. :D

Maybe Truck of the Year, if we put a bed floor in the EL CAMARO....

Why not,They wouldn't let you have it with a real truck:D

nvr2fst 11-26-2009 09:19 PM

Thanks Guys,
Your responses in regards to Rodgers passion for building cars are definitely correct. I felt that even more when I went down there the last couple of days and needed that so called confidence. He takes these ideas I have and just puts them in a whole new perspective. We have to also keep in mind, recognition to his employees and Eric helping out with solid works.

Several key aspects Rodger does caught my attention at the beginning to bring my car to him as I posted in the beginning of the thread. But one thing that stood out the most was Johns Nova. As I lurked at the process of Johns car being created the more I felt this was the guy. Since then there's been several times I questioned him (yes Im a pain in the @#^! and I give him a lot of headaches) but it all seems to come together a day or so later.

We have discussed the issue on posting photos on this forum and others for the reasoning of there's just two many elements taken from one to another plus I wanted to keep a couple things under wraps. If you look at a lot of the last major builds finished, most of the cars weren't posted till the end for most likely that reasoning. So, what we are going to try and do is post up as much info as possible to certain aspects of the car. Rodger mentioned that most individuals wont cut the back of a car off so whats the big deal LOL. I have several documented pictures that are years old, so if something looks familiar as we go along... sorry somebody just beat us applying it to metal.
This is not a car thats going to be done in a quick amount of time. One, each part of the car needs to be designed to come together as a whole without destroying the overall look and Two is funds, this is not a cheap build and there is not an open check book as some may think. I bust my a!! in this economy everyday to enjoy things I work for. So if this projects gets held up briefly or longer than expected its most likely on my part, so no need to post whats going on. If somethings happening Rodger will post. Family first, then business, then car.

Hopefully we can get back on track on posting as a build thread to what makes Ironworks- Ironworks. So far Rodger has done a great job at photo docs and will try to give as much explanation with it. Lateral G has been a great site to belong to and I thank Scott and Jody for having a forum site that gives these builders a great place to show there work.
Dave

GregWeld 11-26-2009 09:36 PM

Nice post Dave...

Good info -- straight up -- no BS. I like it!

I was dumbfounded when I saw what Roger and crew are building... way kool stuff. And you're right! This kind of a build isn't pocket change!

Love it. Thanks!

:hail: :hail:

DFRESH 11-26-2009 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nvr2fst (Post 250637)
Thanks Guys,
Your responses in regards to Rodgers passion for building cars are definitely correct. I felt that even more when I went down there the last couple of days and needed that so called confidence. He takes these ideas I have and just puts them in a whole new perspective. We have to also keep in mind, recognition to his employees and Eric helping out with solid works.

Several key aspects Rodger does caught my attention at the beginning to bring my car to him as I posted in the beginning of the thread. But one thing that stood out the most was Johns Nova. As I lurked at the process of Johns car being created the more I felt this was the guy. Since then there's been several times I questioned him (yes Im a pain in the @#^! and I give him a lot of headaches) but it all seems to come together a day or so later.

We have discussed the issue on posting photos on this forum and others for the reasoning of there's just two many elements taken from one to another plus I wanted to keep a couple things under wraps. If you look at a lot of the last major builds finished, most of the cars weren't posted till the end for most likely that reasoning. So, what we are going to try and do is post up as much info as possible to certain aspects of the car. Rodger mentioned that most individuals wont cut the back of a car off so whats the big deal LOL. I have several documented pictures that are years old, so if something looks familiar as we go along... sorry somebody just beat us applying it to metal.
This is not a car thats going to be done in a quick amount of time. One, each part of the car needs to be designed to come together as a whole without destroying the overall look and Two is funds, this is not a cheap build and there is not an open check book as some may think. I bust my a!! in this economy everyday to enjoy things I work for. So if this projects gets held up briefly or longer than expected its most likely on my part, so no need to post whats going on. If somethings happening Rodger will post. Family first, then business, then car.

Hopefully we can get back on track on posting as a build thread to what makes Ironworks- Ironworks. So far Rodger has done a great job at photo docs and will try to give as much explanation with it. Lateral G has been a great site to belong to and I thank Scott and Jody for having a forum site that gives these builders a great place to show there work.
Dave


You Tease.

Vegas69 11-27-2009 07:30 AM

I can't blame you for wanting to hold some cards until the last hand. I really don't think many people have the resources, time, or funds to pull off most of this stuff however. If your plan is to go for the gold I can't blame you. I'll have to stop by Rodgers shop on one of my trips to CA next year.

ironworks 11-30-2009 07:58 AM

Well Thanks Guys. I go away for few days and come back to figure out why my ears are ringing.

If I would have never imagined in all my life I would be able to work on some of the projects we do. 9 Years ago I had no clue things would end up like they have and the guys that have inspired me since I was old enough to work on cars are now my friends. That blows me away at every show we go to.

This is not a one man show. There are many talented guys involved in what goes on around here. Brycen, Henry and Jason have been with me for quite a few years. Kolby the High school clean up kid has not been here to long, but shows some promise. Eric (HWY NOVA) has been a great help and I look forward to him and his family moving to Bakersfield. :D :D :D :D :D

Well enough Time has been wasted already with 4 days off this past weekend. It has been a while since I took 4 days off from work. So back to the grind stone of living that dream.

Thanks again for the kind words.

Rodger

tones2SS 11-30-2009 07:59 AM

Keep up the great work guys. It's an inspiration and great to see quality work being done on these cars!:thumbsup: :cheers:

HWY Nova 11-30-2009 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ironworks (Post 251453)
Well Thanks Guys. I go away for few days and come back to figure out why my ears are ringing.

If I would have never imagined in all my life I would be able to work on some of the projects we do. 9 Years ago I had no clue things would end up like they have and the guys that have inspired me since I was old enough to work on cars are now my friends. That blows me away at every show we go to.

This is not a one man show. There are many talented guys involved in what goes on around here. Brycen, Henry and Jason have been with me for quite a few years. Kolby the High school clean up kid has not been here to long, but shows some promise. Eric (HWY NOVA) has been a great help and I look forward to him and his family moving to Bakersfield. :D :D :D :D :D

Well enough Time has been wasted already with 4 days off this past weekend. It has been a while since I took 4 days off from work. So back to the grind stone of living that dream.

Thanks again for the kind words.

Rodger

Now my ears are ringing!



--Eric

novanutcase 11-30-2009 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HWY Nova (Post 251460)
Now my ears are ringing!



--Eric

Moving to Bako eh!!:D

John

nvr2fst 11-30-2009 06:36 PM

I commissioned Tracy Weaver owner of Recovery Room to help out. When the time comes he will be working with Rodger on tab placements here and there for panels/inserts/etc. Most good interior guys are booked out for long periods of time and I needed this decision but to rest and crossed off the to do list.
Welcome aboard Tracy

ironworks 11-30-2009 08:00 PM

Some of you might recognize Tracy from his previous job out in California.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ast-custom.jpg

Tracy puts the "WEST" in MIDWEST, when it comes to Quality interior work..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsOgVzVZ66g

HAHA..... I had to do it

HWY Nova 11-30-2009 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nvr2fst (Post 251608)
Well as I mentioned prior we were going to bring on a couple of key players.
Heres one for now;
Some might say were jumping the gun but like I mentioned before its a design process in whole and we dont need to redo things later down the line. We commissioned Tracy Weaver owner of Recovery Room to help out. When the time comes he will be working with Rodger on tab placements here and there for panels/inserts/etc for mine and Rodgers off the wall thinking. Another reason I took in consideration is most good interior guys are booked out for long periods of time and I needed this decision but to rest and crossed off the to do list.
Welcome aboard Tracy!

.... and if you miss your "appointment" with Tracy, I may take your place!!!!


--Eric

Darrell 11-30-2009 10:03 PM

Gee wez guys,with all this mussee mussee kissee kissee talk,I don't know what to say...............or maybe I do...........SACK UP BOYS AND GET TO WORK ON MY CAR!!!!!!!!!!just jokin wit ja..........:D :D :D :D :D :D :thumbsup:

RECOVERY ROOM 12-01-2009 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ironworks (Post 251641)
Some of you might recognize Tracy from his previous job out in California.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ast-custom.jpg

Tracy puts the "WEST" in MIDWEST, when it comes to Quality interior work..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsOgVzVZ66g

HAHA..... I had to do it

That's just mean....Good one Rog.:rofl:

nvr2fst 12-01-2009 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darrell (Post 251665)
Gee wez guys,with all this mussee mussee kissee kissee talk,I don't know what to say...............or maybe I do...........SACK UP BOYS AND GET TO WORK ON MY CAR!!!!!!!!!!just jokin wit ja..........:D :D :D :D :D :D :thumbsup:

Hey Mr. secret, Don't you have a build thread to start or something.
My strategy is the more "mussee mussee" the lower the cost, but it doesnt seem to be working.

ironworks 12-10-2009 09:21 AM

Well I thought I might give you guys a few progress pics. Things are coming along very nicely.

We cut out a hole in the Side of the quarter to reshape the quarter panel. But we had thought out tool box cabinets like a Construction service bed.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ber2009015.jpg

Here is a side profile of the car from the front with both panels cleco'd in place.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ber2009031.jpg

Here is mock up picture with some wheels to give you an idea on the stance.
The spoiler was just an initial design mock up. Things have changed drastically from this design.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ber2009028.jpg

GregWeld 12-10-2009 09:31 AM

Love the tool box/slide outs idea... :rofl:

It really looks good Roger!

HWY Nova 12-10-2009 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ironworks (Post 253774)
Well I thought I might give you guys a few progress pics. Things are coming along very nicely.

We cut out a hole in the Side of the quarter to reshape the quarter panel. But we had thought out tool box cabinets like a Construction service bed.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ber2009015.jpg

Here is a side profile of the car from the front with both panels cleco'd in place.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ber2009031.jpg

Here is mock up picture with some wheels to give you an idea on the stance.
The spoiler was just an initial design mock up. Things have changed drastically from this design.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ber2009028.jpg

I need to get out there and see this in person!


--Eric

bentfab 12-10-2009 09:33 AM

Rog,

You are on lucky dood !!! A very talented crew and a customer willing to go the extra not just a mile but a 100. Keep it coming. Bad a$$ work.

Bent

bentfab 12-10-2009 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HWY Nova (Post 253780)
I need to get out there and see this in person!


--Eric

When are you picking me up ?

ironworks 12-10-2009 09:42 AM

Last I heard breakfast at Knotty Pine Tommorrow morning......

HWY Nova 12-10-2009 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bentfab (Post 253782)
When are you picking me up ?

With the snow on the the Grapevine (the 5-Freeway for those non-Californians), even if I did pick you up, we couldn't get to Ironworks.

I'm not sure I can from where I live either, especially with more storms coming in.

I guess Rodger will just have to post more pics!!!!!


--Eric

bentfab 12-10-2009 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HWY Nova (Post 253786)
With the snow on the the Grapevine (the 5-Freeway for those non-Californians), even if I did pick you up, we couldn't get to Ironworks.

I'm not sure I can from where I live either, especially with more storms coming in.

I guess Rodger will just have to post more pics!!!!!


--Eric


Well.... Ok Just have Rog send his wife's Jeep down.

ironworks 12-10-2009 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bentfab (Post 253788)
Well.... Ok Just have Rog send his wife's Jeep down.

Please you guys are not tough enough for that RIG. Please.....

HWY Nova 12-10-2009 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ironworks (Post 253789)
Please you guys are not tough enough for that RIG. Please.....

Ouch.

Cris@JCG 12-10-2009 12:51 PM

As always! great work :wow: I love everything about this build :thumbsup:

bentfab 12-10-2009 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 253808)
As always! great work :wow: I love everything about this build :thumbsup:

Yeah!! Those flares are catching on.

Kendall Burleson 12-10-2009 01:25 PM

Rodger how is the sliver state camaro coming?:thumbsup: :thumbsup:


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